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The Flaming Red Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 01:54 PM
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67. So during the next great epidemic
We'll all be a little safer from illegal immigration
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  -US rule demands proof of citizenship for healthcare Eugene  Apr-11-06 06:48 AM   #0 
  - Well, at least "they" can abuse ...  etherealtruth   Apr-11-06 06:52 AM   #1 
  - What will happen to the "CHILDREN" ?  saigon68   Apr-11-06 06:53 AM   #2 
  - In Wisconsin, for now at least  DUHandle   Apr-11-06 08:31 AM   #30 
     - I think the repuke legislature with Gard at the Helm  saigon68   Apr-11-06 02:59 PM   #70 
  - We have to draw a line  OzarkDem   Apr-11-06 06:55 AM   #3 
  - ok -- under your scenario -- someone will get sick and die.  xchrom   Apr-11-06 06:58 AM   #5 
  - Wake up  OzarkDem   Apr-11-06 07:43 AM   #19 
  - you wake up -- we can afford health care for u.s. citizens  xchrom   Apr-11-06 09:22 AM   #34 
  - Correct -- the government can afford it  LostinVA   Apr-11-06 11:04 AM   #41 
  - Government = Us  MockSwede   Apr-11-06 11:21 AM   #44 
     - Apples and oranges  LostinVA   Apr-11-06 12:13 PM   #52 
     - Wonder how this plays out in smoking in bars and such?  The Straight Story   Apr-12-06 12:27 AM   #105 
     - We're Supposed to Be the Government; But  Demeter   Apr-11-06 12:36 PM   #54 
     - The government is corporate American.  0007   Apr-11-06 04:13 PM   #79 
  - Bravo!  KevinJ   Apr-11-06 11:53 AM   #50 
  - Great post. Absolutely dead on. nt  tomg   Apr-11-06 12:59 PM   #59 
  - You did it again. Thoughtful and true.  President Kerry   Apr-11-06 05:47 PM   #83 
  - Thank you, Mr. President  KevinJ   Apr-11-06 07:09 PM   #89 
  - I'm not pissed at anyone. But let me point out the word 'illegal' in your  reprobate   Apr-11-06 07:52 PM   #99 
  - great post #50  judaspriestess   Apr-12-06 04:13 PM   #109 
  - thanks very much.  rodeodance   Apr-14-06 05:47 AM   #133 
  - Good luck dealing with people who by into the republican  superconnected   Apr-11-06 07:19 PM   #93 
  - Next they'll claim they can deport people who can't prove citizenship.  struggle4progress   Apr-11-06 07:47 PM   #98 
  - There is enough to go around-We just are too greedy!  rodeodance   Apr-14-06 05:46 AM   #132 
  - Sorry to say  OzarkDem   Apr-11-06 07:52 AM   #23 
     - unfettered any kind of immigration has never devastated our country.  xchrom   Apr-11-06 09:23 AM   #35 
     - We have yet to have unfettered immigration.  igil   Apr-11-06 11:50 AM   #49 
        - ''illegal'' immigration became a problem AFTER  xchrom   Apr-11-06 01:01 PM   #60 
     - SO US Citizens first...then maybe white middle class next.....  LeftHander   Apr-11-06 12:40 PM   #55 
     - Wrong.  Lindacooks   Apr-11-06 03:09 PM   #72 
  - This is fucking insane  kurth   Apr-11-06 07:01 AM   #6 
  - What's fucking insane is so many here  bowens43   Apr-11-06 07:07 AM   #8 
  - They do it every day  OzarkDem   Apr-11-06 07:44 AM   #20 
  - Every person, you included, does it every single day.  mondo joe   Apr-11-06 08:10 AM   #26 
  - nice try..  President Kerry   Apr-11-06 05:57 PM   #85 
  - To the contrary, I know at least one thing, and  mondo joe   Apr-11-06 09:10 PM   #100 
  - only a collective effort can make a real difference  rman   Apr-11-06 06:16 PM   #88 
     - Then we'll need to be collectively mindful of the choices we make  mondo joe   Apr-11-06 09:10 PM   #101 
  - Most of the third world has perfectly functioning health care systems  lumberjack_jeff   Apr-11-06 11:34 AM   #47 
  - I think they would prefer illegals to just drop dead  alarimer   Apr-13-06 02:19 PM   #127 
  - Human decency? (nt)  darkmaestro019   Apr-11-06 07:24 AM   #13 
  - don't illegals pay any taxes?  DBoon   Apr-11-06 12:58 PM   #58 
  - Unbelievable.  President Kerry   Apr-11-06 05:53 PM   #84 
  - Unbelievable.  bowens43   Apr-11-06 07:06 AM   #7 
  - I never got the memo either bowens.  vickiss   Apr-11-06 07:28 AM   #16 
  - Do you think its ok  OzarkDem   Apr-11-06 07:49 AM   #22 
     - Here's some info that lends perspective to your concern-  Rose Siding   Apr-11-06 08:14 AM   #27 
     - Great link Rose, thank you!  vickiss   Apr-11-06 09:13 AM   #33 
     - Of course not, how ridiculous.  vickiss   Apr-11-06 09:11 AM   #32 
     - If you think that this law will help those currently not treated  Kailassa   Apr-11-06 05:15 PM   #80 
     - I believe your anger is mischanneled.  President Kerry   Apr-11-06 06:02 PM   #87 
  - The US can't be effective  OzarkDem   Apr-11-06 07:47 AM   #21 
  - Right. On. n/t  President Kerry   Apr-11-06 05:58 PM   #86 
  - There is a problem -- but it is with our bureaucracy  CornField   Apr-11-06 07:56 AM   #24 
  - Let me tell you the problem with THIS line.  mondo joe   Apr-11-06 08:02 AM   #25 
  - care for health first  kineneb   Apr-11-06 11:26 AM   #46 
  - False dichotomy.  donco6   Apr-11-06 02:30 PM   #68 
  - And THAT is key....  Shakespeare   Apr-11-06 03:27 PM   #76 
  - As opposed to the illogical fallacy  lumberjack_jeff   Apr-11-06 10:15 PM   #103 
  - wow.. brilliant... I'm sure the neocons would love that, do love that  superconnected   Apr-11-06 07:18 PM   #92 
  - Bingo!  Flucius   Apr-11-06 07:40 PM   #95 
  - the american taxpayer pays for health coverage for iraqi citizens  QuestionAll   Apr-13-06 12:55 PM   #124 
  - Fabulous  Kutjara   Apr-11-06 06:58 AM   #4 
  - what a nightmare for patients and staff! And Feds can deny payment.  rodeodance   Apr-11-06 07:15 AM   #9 
  - The FED should not require the private sector to do its job!  twiterpatted   Apr-11-06 07:22 AM   #12 
  - Jesus wept.  displacedtexan   Apr-11-06 07:17 AM   #10 
  - I imagine Jesus has been sobbing hysterically  vickiss   Apr-11-06 07:29 AM   #17 
  - Thank you.  jwirr   Apr-11-06 10:54 AM   #39 
  - Papers Please!!, Where are your Papers!!!! Give me your papers!!!  twiterpatted   Apr-11-06 07:21 AM   #11 
  - What you said! And welcome to DU! (nt)  darkmaestro019   Apr-11-06 07:25 AM   #14 
  - They were also trying to make priests ask worshipers  vickiss   Apr-11-06 07:35 AM   #18 
     - Not worshippers  mycritters2   Apr-12-06 09:35 PM   #111 
        - My bad. But many of those asking for help could  vickiss   Apr-13-06 06:59 AM   #116 
  - now would be a good time Catholics to break with the Repukes  leftchick   Apr-11-06 07:27 AM   #15 
  - Republicans hate Latinos  IndianaGreen   Apr-11-06 08:23 AM   #28 
  - Yeah, like being an American citizen guarantees you anything  Benhurst   Apr-11-06 08:28 AM   #29 
  - Obviously a Christian Nation did this  Toots   Apr-11-06 08:32 AM   #31 
  - The pukes should read about the woman at the well. She was  jwirr   Apr-11-06 10:58 AM   #40 
  - Since I'm not a Christian, and don't think Christianity should  mondo joe   Apr-11-06 11:10 AM   #43 
     - Just calling the Republifundies on their BS  Hekate   Apr-11-06 07:45 PM   #97 
  - This law also applies to LEGAL immigrants.  Bridget Burke   Apr-11-06 09:29 AM   #36 
  - In order to get Welfare of any kind you need to show your  jwirr   Apr-11-06 10:48 AM   #37 
  - Healthcare is not welfare.  Kailassa   Apr-11-06 05:24 PM   #81 
  - Welfare is not a bad word in my vocabulary! And in most states  jwirr   Apr-11-06 09:39 PM   #102 
  - What does that have to do wih whether or not illegals,  Kailassa   Apr-12-06 01:40 PM   #106 
  - And you can get your fake birth certificate at this web site....  Joanne98   Apr-13-06 12:43 PM   #123 
  - This could only create public health nightmares that negatively  mondo joe   Apr-11-06 10:52 AM   #38 
  - This law, like Sensenbrenner's legislation, is to compel social agencies  suffragette   Apr-11-06 11:08 AM   #42 
  - Oh, that's just fucking brilliant  Solly Mack   Apr-11-06 11:24 AM   #45 
  - That same thinking applies to the uninsured.  NYC   Apr-11-06 01:40 PM   #65 
  - No argument from me. The lack & quality of health care in America  Solly Mack   Apr-11-06 03:01 PM   #71 
     - It is a people thing.  NYC   Apr-11-06 03:21 PM   #73 
        - I'm in the choir on that one  Solly Mack   Apr-11-06 03:24 PM   #75 
  - It's just another step on the neocon agenda.  Kailassa   Apr-11-06 05:31 PM   #82 
  - Doesn't anyone think in Washington? NO thinking is not permitted n/t  anotherdrew   Apr-13-06 01:04 PM   #126 
  - The Republicans put the screws on with Healthcare  lovuian   Apr-11-06 11:38 AM   #48 
  - Any idea who the people are that won't have to show  igil   Apr-11-06 11:56 AM   #51 
  - The white ones....  Bridget Burke   Apr-11-06 01:29 PM   #62 
  - Culture of life.  Orsino   Apr-11-06 12:32 PM   #53 
  - and will we require proof of citizenship before accepting their taxes?  DBoon   Apr-11-06 12:56 PM   #56 
  - This rule applies to Legal Immigrants as well.  Bridget Burke   Apr-11-06 01:30 PM   #63 
     - Illegals with phony documents pay FICA, Social Security, etc  mycritters2   Apr-12-06 09:34 PM   #110 
  - How does this impact green-card holders who do NOT have US passports...  truebrit71   Apr-11-06 12:58 PM   #57 
  - Dogs are treated better than human  ckramer   Apr-11-06 01:02 PM   #61 
  - It is immoral to deny healthcare to ANYONE.  Shakespeare   Apr-11-06 01:31 PM   #64 
  - Yes it is immoral, and doctors and hospitals  NYC   Apr-11-06 01:43 PM   #66 
     - very right. they're using docs as cops n/t  anotherdrew   Apr-13-06 12:05 PM   #120 
  - So during the next great epidemic  The Flaming Red Head   Apr-11-06 01:54 PM   #67 
  - Let 'em die! That's what Jesus would say.  caledesi   Apr-11-06 02:30 PM   #69 
  - How does Canada handle this issue?  davepc   Apr-11-06 03:22 PM   #74 
  - we would be turned away without a doubt.  anotherdrew   Apr-13-06 12:06 PM   #121 
  - I have no response..I'm in shock over human cruelty!  Tight_rope   Apr-11-06 03:51 PM   #77 
  - Helloooo Tuberculosis!  MurrayDelph   Apr-11-06 04:00 PM   #78 
  - excellent post.  superconnected   Apr-11-06 07:44 PM   #96 
  - >cough< >hack< >spit< Don't mind the case of TB next to you on the bus...  Hekate   Apr-11-06 07:13 PM   #90 
  - Shit, this is another one of those bill it was hiden from the public!  Rainscents   Apr-11-06 07:14 PM   #91 
  - And there are du members up there, glad to join them.  superconnected   Apr-11-06 07:21 PM   #94 
  - the law is silly  sweetheart   Apr-11-06 10:23 PM   #104 
  - This thread is SO frustrating.  TheGoldenRule   Apr-12-06 03:55 PM   #107 
  - Taking care of our own includes treating those who would be infectious.  Lars39   Apr-12-06 04:02 PM   #108 
  - IMHO, you need to change your boardname.  Media_Lies_Daily   Apr-12-06 09:40 PM   #112 
  - my...how utterly democratic and progressive of you  BuddhaGirl   Apr-12-06 09:59 PM   #115 
  - I agree with you. One of the reasons health care is so expensive is  flashdebadge   Apr-13-06 11:39 AM   #117 
     - been drinking the kool aid ?????  28erl   Apr-13-06 10:22 PM   #128 
     - What a thoughtful response.  flashdebadge   Apr-13-06 10:29 PM   #129 
     - You got it!. You must live in CA, too. And 87 hospitals so far.  IndyJones   Apr-14-06 01:56 AM   #130 
  - My wife works at a community health center....  kentuck   Apr-12-06 09:46 PM   #113 
  - It always comes down to situations like the one you just wrote about.  rodeodance   Apr-14-06 05:50 AM   #134 
  - Someone please tell me I'm wrong...  classics   Apr-12-06 09:52 PM   #114 
  - I cannot afford health insurance, but I'm too well off for Medicaid.  Vinca   Apr-13-06 11:55 AM   #118 
  - plenty o' free healthcare in Mexico  anotherdrew   Apr-13-06 12:03 PM   #119 
  - For Americans? nt  Vinca   Apr-13-06 12:09 PM   #122 
     - no. we can go whistle  anotherdrew   Apr-13-06 01:01 PM   #125 
  - so, this their answer to reducing the deficit. !!  rodeodance   Apr-14-06 05:44 AM   #131 
     - It is a simple minded 'solution" to the problem posed by our 'leaders" who  rodeodance   Apr-14-06 05:51 AM   #135 
        - Usually a commonsense answer is simple one.  daringthedevil   Apr-14-06 08:43 AM   #136 
           - That, Sir, Is Not Much Of A Recommendation  The Magistrate   Apr-14-06 08:49 AM   #137 
              - Yes, but this is a simple problem.  daringthedevil   Apr-14-06 09:55 AM   #138 
                 - Not Really, Sir  The Magistrate   Apr-14-06 10:11 AM   #139 
 

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