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Sat Nov-15-03 11:35 AM
Response to Reply #11 |
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The helicopter was NOT shot down, so stop saying that!
I read a quote of a military source calling the other Black Hawk downing a "lucky shot." More likely, imo, is that the Iraqis have now figured out how to shoot down our helicopters.
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Nov-15-03 11:07 AM |
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why am I thinking it did not "crash"?.... |
leftchick |
Nov-15-03 11:10 AM |
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Alright, who sold them the stingers? |
HawkerHurricane |
Nov-15-03 11:13 AM |
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The partisans will start breaking out the big guns now |
Barrett808 |
Nov-15-03 11:18 AM |
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Here we go again folks! |
0007 |
Nov-15-03 11:32 AM |
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Here ya go... |
imax2268 |
Nov-16-03 01:58 AM |
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Orrin Hatch too |
Cocoa |
Nov-15-03 11:23 AM |
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Don't need Stingers...they had over 1500 Russian man-portable SAMs |
KeepItReal |
Nov-15-03 11:23 AM |
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They've taken at least one down with just an RPG |
htuttle |
Nov-15-03 11:34 AM |
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Helicopters are vulnerable to ground fire |
HawkerHurricane |
Nov-15-03 02:07 PM |
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Col. North will answer that question, Sir |
SpiralHawk |
Nov-15-03 11:33 AM |
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What is a civilian area? |
Ripley |
Nov-15-03 11:16 AM |
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very good question |
Cocoa |
Nov-15-03 11:26 AM |
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If they said "residential" area, I'd understand. |
Ripley |
Nov-15-03 11:29 AM |
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it could be code, too |
Cocoa |
Nov-15-03 11:35 AM |
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They have been clearing them out first |
party_line |
Nov-15-03 11:36 AM |
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BBC page has a blurb at top |
party_line |
Nov-15-03 11:16 AM |
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Probably right around the time... |
htuttle |
Nov-15-03 11:19 AM |
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Shit like this gatta strike terror in the hearts of all military parents |
opihimoimoi |
Nov-15-03 11:25 AM |
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At some point |
Turbineguy |
Nov-15-03 05:29 PM |
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Has to be an accident, it's not in the Sunni Triangle... |
karlschneider |
Nov-15-03 11:30 AM |
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Yahoo link |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-15-03 11:32 AM |
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Holy Crap!! |
Ripley |
Nov-15-03 11:36 AM |
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Sounds like more than an 'accident' was involved |
htuttle |
Nov-15-03 11:36 AM |
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No, that's the Apaches. |
Ripley |
Nov-15-03 11:37 AM |
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from just that report... |
Sagan |
Nov-15-03 11:43 AM |
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Click on the link again...Most of the article is gone? |
janx |
Nov-15-03 12:47 PM |
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It's still there for me |
htuttle |
Nov-15-03 12:48 PM |
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Check the Yahoo link: |
Ripley |
Nov-15-03 12:49 PM |
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Thanks--it's in the Reuters article as well. |
janx |
Nov-15-03 01:13 PM |
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this is too fishy |
jenk |
Nov-15-03 11:39 AM |
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Yes because why would he CLIMB |
saskatoon |
Nov-15-03 04:31 PM |
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I think the chopper was shotdown while participating in some sort of... |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-15-03 11:44 AM |
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we've had skirmishes with the Kurds recently |
jenk |
Nov-15-03 11:48 AM |
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Excellent post! If you're interested I'll get a couploe of links for you |
sistersofmercy |
Nov-15-03 11:58 AM |
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The UN ruled that the US was now considered an 'Occupying Power'... |
htuttle |
Nov-15-03 12:03 PM |
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Got a link I'd be very interested in reading the info but even |
sistersofmercy |
Nov-15-03 01:06 PM |
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Looks like it was more Annan who said it, not sure of 'official' status |
htuttle |
Nov-15-03 01:17 PM |
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It is under the Geneva Convention, Articles 55, 56 and 59 |
Spazito |
Nov-15-03 01:38 PM |
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Rapid Reaction Force is on the scene.... |
leftchick |
Nov-15-03 11:36 AM |
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Sounds like two helicopters are down? |
DoYouEverWonder |
Nov-15-03 11:36 AM |
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Some local witnesses said two helicopters may have collided and crashed |
54anickel |
Nov-15-03 11:36 AM |
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That reads like one was hit |
party_line |
Nov-15-03 11:41 AM |
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That is what it sounds like to me |
htuttle |
Nov-15-03 11:42 AM |
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damn |
jenk |
Nov-15-03 11:36 AM |
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were these chinooks? |
jenk |
Nov-15-03 11:45 AM |
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The orig link says Black Hawks |
party_line |
Nov-15-03 11:47 AM |
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The Black Hawk is the U.S. Army's frontline utility helicopter, designed |
54anickel |
Nov-15-03 11:49 AM |
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I think so, looks like they seat about 8-10 each |
jenk |
Nov-15-03 11:50 AM |
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Blackhawks are smaller t. Main troop-carrying 'copter of US Army |
KeepItReal |
Nov-15-03 11:51 AM |
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well, MSNBC has moved on to Paris Hilton |
nostamj |
Nov-15-03 11:47 AM |
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I've noticed that CNN, MSNBC, all of them |
Ripley |
Nov-15-03 11:50 AM |
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We don't want no stinkin' news |
Oreegone |
Nov-15-03 12:00 PM |
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I am sure that we will be hearing about Kobe and Scott Peterson next |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-15-03 11:51 AM |
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am i the only one |
Blue_Tires |
Nov-15-03 04:58 PM |
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I wonder if the pilots use speed from command like they used to. |
bobthedrummer |
Nov-15-03 11:57 AM |
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Especially when you're on fire |
htuttle |
Nov-15-03 11:57 AM |
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Yeah, um, sure...the helicopter "crashed." Yeah I believe that. nt |
caledesi |
Nov-15-03 12:04 PM |
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Witness - One crashed on a house in Borsa |
54anickel |
Nov-15-03 12:04 PM |
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There is a minimum of 3 crew aboard a Black Hawk = 6 KIAs |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-15-03 12:17 PM |
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AP confirms 2 Black Hawks "collided" |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-15-03 12:05 PM |
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MSNBC just reported: Two black hawks *collided* over Mosul n/t |
Barrett808 |
Nov-15-03 12:05 PM |
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MSNBC mentions is |
spinbaby |
Nov-15-03 12:06 PM |
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A witness says they collided after an Explosion! |
leftchick |
Nov-15-03 12:18 PM |
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You think Bob Arnot is going to tell us how swell things are in Mosul |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-15-03 12:20 PM |
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I have seen dr. baghdad bob arnot say things are swell... |
leftchick |
Nov-15-03 12:35 PM |
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That ain't no shit n/t |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-15-03 01:23 PM |
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Sky News: US Helicopters Collide |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-15-03 12:24 PM |
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"crashed onto the roof of a house" |
Barrett808 |
Nov-15-03 12:26 PM |
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Update MSNBC |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-15-03 12:48 PM |
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The true cost to America of losing two Blackhawk helicopters |
MetaTrope |
Nov-15-03 01:09 PM |
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12 killed, at least 9 wounded (CNN) |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-15-03 01:13 PM |
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One taking ground fire |
prolesunited |
Nov-15-03 01:18 PM |
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Jebuz. Two birds with one stone n/t |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-15-03 01:26 PM |
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Anyone "wounded" in that crash.. |
JackDragna |
Nov-15-03 01:19 PM |
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
Skittles |
Nov-15-03 01:20 PM |
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Yes, to bad it's |
Turbineguy |
Nov-15-03 05:31 PM |
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I cant take anymore |
fishnfla |
Nov-15-03 01:27 PM |
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those choppers aren't free |
jenk |
Nov-15-03 02:47 PM |
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Fox says US military reports one copter hit by an RPG |
bluestateguy |
Nov-15-03 01:40 PM |
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I agree! It is time to bring the troops home NOW! |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-15-03 01:44 PM |
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Is Mosul in the Sunni triangle? n/t |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-15-03 01:42 PM |
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No, it is in the "safe" Kurdish area |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-15-03 01:45 PM |
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Sky News: The Black Hawks were responding to an ambush |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-15-03 01:42 PM |
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Fox says RPG hit one, CNN headline says......... |
buycitgo |
Nov-15-03 01:49 PM |
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The one that rose was on fire per witness |
54anickel |
Nov-15-03 01:59 PM |
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Here's the CBC story |
Canadian_Guy |
Nov-15-03 01:54 PM |
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NYT Article, hit in tail by RPG |
BuckeFushe |
Nov-15-03 02:01 PM |
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The kurds don't want us there either |
freddie57 |
Nov-15-03 02:22 PM |
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Reading that account, I wonder whether this wasn't a chopper trap |
htuttle |
Nov-15-03 02:23 PM |
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Lessons from Vietnam |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-15-03 02:33 PM |
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Operation "Iron Fist" appears to have had quite an effect on the Iraqis nt |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-15-03 02:07 PM |
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12 dead, 9 injured says CNN |
MisterP |
Nov-15-03 02:31 PM |
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Jeebus H! I'm gone for a few hrs and come home... |
alg0912 |
Nov-15-03 02:36 PM |
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Two US helicopters down in Iraq, at least 23 dead (Headline in error) |
MaineDem |
Nov-15-03 02:40 PM |
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Confusing headine.... |
54anickel |
Nov-15-03 02:44 PM |
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The headline was wrong. |
MaineDem |
Nov-15-03 02:50 PM |
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Did this include Iraqis - civilians or ? - on the ground? |
colorado_ufo |
Nov-15-03 03:44 PM |
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W/RPGs in Iraqi hands, the US helicopter days in the region are over |
lebkuchen |
Nov-15-03 02:52 PM |
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Sky News: US Officer says One Helicopter Hit by RPG |
VolcanoJen |
Nov-15-03 03:03 PM |
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NOTHING, TO SEE HERE just a few paint scratches |
saigon68 |
Nov-15-03 03:29 PM |
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this is tiring |
MattNC |
Nov-15-03 03:09 PM |
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the jump from 300 to 400 was quick - |
UpInArms |
Nov-15-03 03:18 PM |
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Waking up may not matter. |
freethought23 |
Nov-15-03 03:29 PM |
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Some more information from Al-Jazeera.... |
leftchick |
Nov-15-03 03:33 PM |
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Coalition forces? US? UK? Italian? Australian? |
librarycard |
Nov-15-03 03:35 PM |
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CNN says they were all Americans |
htuttle |
Nov-15-03 04:23 PM |
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CNN International just said 17 dead. |
karlschneider |
Nov-15-03 04:32 PM |
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Strange that "coalition forces" was used--the US IS the coalition force |
librarycard |
Nov-15-03 07:58 PM |
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In the new Journalspeak, "Italian" = Italian, "British"= British, |
Jackpine Radical |
Nov-15-03 05:20 PM |
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CNN says death toll has risen to 17 |
silverchair |
Nov-15-03 04:48 PM |
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It will probably end up being 18 |
htuttle |
Nov-15-03 05:02 PM |
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In the last three weeks, 39 soldiers have died in five helicopter crashes |
54anickel |
Nov-15-03 05:16 PM |
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Am I reading about the same incident? Al-jazeera differs. |
loudnclear |
Nov-15-03 04:59 PM |
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81 coalition troops killed in just 15 days, |
Minstrel Boy |
Nov-15-03 05:24 PM |
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Eighty-one?!!????!!!! |
VolcanoJen |
Nov-15-03 05:27 PM |
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It surprised me too... |
Minstrel Boy |
Nov-15-03 05:38 PM |
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NAH KIDS---- WE'RE WINNING " BRING EM ON" --The chimp |
saigon68 |
Nov-15-03 05:46 PM |
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saigon...I was around during Vietnam and you are SO right! nt |
caledesi |
Nov-15-03 09:05 PM |
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That's almost as high as Vietnam |
Turbineguy |
Nov-15-03 05:35 PM |
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Those apparatchiks were none other than the Tom Delay thugs..... |
0007 |
Nov-15-03 05:40 PM |
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Jackpine Radical makes a good point in #108 |
54anickel |
Nov-15-03 05:40 PM |
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My....fucking....God.......... |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-15-03 08:46 PM |
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BGL...yes, we predicted this horrible state of affairs on DU. |
caledesi |
Nov-15-03 09:08 PM |
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CNN now calling the victims "17 U.S. Soldiers." |
VolcanoJen |
Nov-15-03 05:33 PM |
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I knew I shouldn't have looked: I knew I shouldn't have looked:I knew I sh |
newyorican |
Nov-15-03 05:37 PM |
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Psycho alert!! |
alg0912 |
Nov-15-03 05:42 PM |
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Tom Tomorrow: Chicken Hawk Down |
hadrons |
Nov-15-03 07:26 PM |
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Hmmm... it wasn't the left |
Jen6 |
Nov-15-03 07:34 PM |
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"we need every swinging dick in the unit to win." |
IndianaGreen |
Nov-15-03 08:07 PM |
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I actually think that victory |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-15-03 09:00 PM |
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The sad part is that it is going to get worse. nt |
caledesi |
Nov-15-03 09:09 PM |
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Don't think so |
NNN0LHI |
Nov-16-03 09:52 AM |
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It's that same ill logic that makes them also believe... |
alg0912 |
Nov-16-03 09:45 AM |
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That's his solution? Attack leftists in America? |
htuttle |
Nov-16-03 10:01 AM |
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yep |
Sagan |
Nov-15-03 05:45 PM |
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I find such blindness to the uselessness of this war |
Swede |
Nov-15-03 06:04 PM |
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Disgusting! |
jpgray |
Nov-15-03 06:03 PM |
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As if the statistics of WWII were all that appealing |
Rebel_with_a_cause |
Nov-15-03 07:33 PM |
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These people can't be Americans. |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-15-03 08:54 PM |
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THAT'S IT. I'M GOING TO TELL THOSE BASTARDS OFF. nt |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-15-03 09:05 PM |
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Deadliest day.....yet. |
judgegina |
Nov-15-03 07:01 PM |
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Operation Iron Hammer isn't having its desired effect |
Rebel_with_a_cause |
Nov-15-03 07:25 PM |
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Wanna bet if these death wil even count as official deaths?? |
Kamika |
Nov-15-03 07:37 PM |
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Kick |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-15-03 11:25 PM |
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Those freepers are using the argument that we need to take the |
fizzana |
Nov-16-03 03:17 AM |
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The bush Fedayeen are a restless bunch |
4dsc |
Nov-16-03 09:29 AM |
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CNN 10AMHelo was trying to land -rotor hit other helo-BS! |
jmcgowanjm |
Nov-16-03 09:04 AM |
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