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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-06-06 07:24 AM
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110. As long as a morbidly obese person doesn't need surgery, than I guess
they're fine.

However, post-surgical complications and outcomes are much better for those who are not morbidly obese.

MKJ
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  -WP: Study Shows Plateau in Obesity in U.S. Women DeepModem Mom  Apr-04-06 06:23 PM   #0 
  - I really don't understand what this means.  NYC   Apr-04-06 07:36 PM   #1 
  - It's because it's nonsense  melody   Apr-04-06 08:07 PM   #2 
  - I agree with you!  CountAllVotes   Apr-04-06 08:28 PM   #4 
  - fat people often have artificially high blood pressure  melody   Apr-04-06 08:39 PM   #5 
  - no joke!  CountAllVotes   Apr-04-06 08:47 PM   #6 
  - Interesting stuff on the BP..  progressivebydesign   Apr-04-06 10:02 PM   #10 
     - Exactly, well said  melody   Apr-04-06 11:23 PM   #16 
  - I'm all for acceptance  Marie26   Apr-05-06 09:03 AM   #20 
     - not true  melody   Apr-05-06 10:05 AM   #24 
     - Please  Marie26   Apr-05-06 10:28 AM   #28 
     - Oy -- the same nonsense studies repeated  melody   Apr-05-06 10:40 AM   #32 
        - "Nonsense studies" by the American Cancer Society.  Marie26   Apr-05-06 10:57 AM   #40 
        - I don't go into this on public forums, so this ends the thread  melody   Apr-05-06 11:01 AM   #42 
           - Alrighty then  Marie26   Apr-05-06 12:47 PM   #66 
              - Have you read this stuff?  melody   Apr-05-06 12:56 PM   #68 
                 - I thought you weren't getting into this? nt  Marie26   Apr-05-06 12:58 PM   #69 
                    - What kind of argument is that?  melody   Apr-05-06 01:00 PM   #70 
                       - A pretty good one  Marie26   Apr-05-06 01:16 PM   #72 
        - Ain't that the truth?  raccoon   Apr-05-06 12:26 PM   #59 
           - nope  Skittles   Apr-09-06 03:34 AM   #156 
     - Marie26 is correct.  Oregonian   Apr-05-06 10:37 AM   #31 
     - Let me clarify this to say that not all obesity is a result of  Oregonian   Apr-05-06 10:40 AM   #33 
     - you are exhibiting an attitude often triggered by bias against fat people  melody   Apr-05-06 10:45 AM   #35 
     - Nothing can be done about that  eridani   Apr-07-06 02:57 AM   #128 
     - Some Facts  Phx_Dem   Apr-06-06 09:26 PM   #122 
     - I agree Marie  mimitabby   Apr-05-06 04:39 PM   #75 
     - There were five when I was in school in one classroom  melody   Apr-05-06 07:22 PM   #83 
     - It is the strictly genetic tendency toward diabetes--  eridani   Apr-07-06 02:54 AM   #127 
        - That is very simplistic.  Marie26   Apr-07-06 08:25 PM   #143 
           - But when they lose weight they are still fat  eridani   Apr-07-06 10:08 PM   #145 
  - The same thing has happened - dropping the guidelines -  FlaGranny   Apr-05-06 12:42 PM   #64 
  - So how do you explain the dramatic increase  Phx_Dem   Apr-05-06 09:48 AM   #21 
  - Why the dramatic increase in autism?  melody   Apr-05-06 10:10 AM   #25 
  - autism  Phx_Dem   Apr-05-06 10:18 AM   #26 
  - if you aren't going to get diabetes, you can't make yourself get diabetes  melody   Apr-05-06 10:31 AM   #29 
     - there is not a definite causal connection between  Phx_Dem   Apr-05-06 10:52 AM   #37 
     - It's a symptom, not a cause  melody   Apr-05-06 10:55 AM   #39 
        - I'm trying to be polite  Phx_Dem   Apr-05-06 11:03 AM   #44 
        - You aren't being polite - you're clearly not trying.  melody   Apr-05-06 11:05 AM   #46 
           - sorry you think i'm "sneering"  Phx_Dem   Apr-05-06 11:38 AM   #56 
           - You might want to check out this course  Phx_Dem   Apr-06-06 09:32 PM   #123 
        - Evidence was offered.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:55 PM   #148 
     - No casual connection between obesity and diabetes?  WindRavenX   Apr-05-06 04:35 PM   #74 
     - There is no causal connection between obesity and diabetes  melody   Apr-05-06 07:17 PM   #82 
        - You are technically correct  Phx_Dem   Apr-06-06 10:28 AM   #112 
           - Of course there is. Genetic diabetes causes obesity.  eridani   Apr-07-06 03:02 AM   #130 
              - that's a gross oversimplification  Phx_Dem   Apr-07-06 09:12 AM   #137 
                 - Where are the controls?  eridani   Apr-07-06 10:11 PM   #146 
                    - my last post  Phx_Dem   Apr-08-06 02:22 PM   #152 
                       - So, why are you arguing in favor of model #2?  eridani   Apr-09-06 01:38 AM   #155 
     - I'll echo the others...  saddemocrat   Apr-07-06 09:20 AM   #138 
  - What on earth does one have to do w/the other? nt  Marie26   Apr-05-06 10:35 AM   #30 
     - Read the context of his question  melody   Apr-05-06 10:40 AM   #34 
  - See my post 64.  FlaGranny   Apr-05-06 12:44 PM   #65 
  - Extended life expectancy, of course  eridani   Apr-07-06 03:00 AM   #129 
  - That just proves that men should have sex change operations--  eridani   Apr-07-06 02:52 AM   #126 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-04-06 08:12 PM   #3 
  - it's door number 2  pitohui   Apr-04-06 10:11 PM   #11 
  - Maybe, ,maybe not  Phx_Dem   Apr-05-06 09:54 AM   #23 
     - Yes, most people who eat low calorie like under 1000 calories  Nikia   Apr-05-06 06:31 PM   #77 
     - Exactly  melody   Apr-05-06 07:09 PM   #81 
     - I thought you were ignoring me  Phx_Dem   Apr-06-06 08:07 PM   #119 
     - faulty logic  Phx_Dem   Apr-06-06 08:35 PM   #121 
     - Maybe that's the case w/caloric restriction  Phx_Dem   Apr-06-06 08:05 PM   #118 
        - That only applies to critters with very short lifespans.  eridani   Apr-07-06 03:08 AM   #131 
           - Maybe your right  Phx_Dem   Apr-07-06 09:01 AM   #136 
              - My antedotal evidence says  Nikia   Apr-07-06 04:37 PM   #139 
              - I was not suggesting anyone should eat that little  Phx_Dem   Apr-07-06 07:08 PM   #142 
              - nikia is right  pitohui   Apr-08-06 03:44 PM   #154 
              - Anecdotal evidence is nonsense  eridani   Apr-07-06 10:14 PM   #147 
     - if you're so thin it creates concern...  pitohui   Apr-06-06 03:42 PM   #116 
        - I eat fine, thanks  Phx_Dem   Apr-06-06 08:07 PM   #120 
           - it can be a genuine struggle  pitohui   Apr-08-06 03:41 PM   #153 
  - All it means is that the insurance companies have reached  SoCalDem   Apr-05-06 07:04 PM   #79 
  - That's probably what it means.  NYC   Apr-05-06 08:04 PM   #84 
     - It was a formal gala for Prince Charles..apparently she was  SoCalDem   Apr-05-06 11:51 PM   #92 
        - Norma Desmond. What a similarity.  NYC   Apr-06-06 12:04 AM   #95 
        - check them out in black & white  SoCalDem   Apr-06-06 02:21 AM   #108 
           - Norma Desmond looks less insane.  NYC   Apr-06-06 02:32 AM   #109 
        - Lost my connection.  NYC   Apr-06-06 12:05 AM   #96 
  - We don't, in general, live in a 'toxic' environment  eridani   Apr-07-06 02:51 AM   #125 
  - I know the reason why  WatchWhatISay   Apr-04-06 08:58 PM   #7 
  - Would you use a pejorative term like that for any other minority  melody   Apr-04-06 09:35 PM   #8 
  - Well, you ought not. Overweight and obese people are not a  kiraboo   Apr-04-06 10:15 PM   #12 
     - We are a minority  melody   Apr-04-06 11:15 PM   #14 
  - I took a bashing in that thread for stating that it is cruel to call  Beausoir   Apr-05-06 08:14 AM   #18 
  - such people are bullies and often borderline sociopathic  melody   Apr-05-06 10:27 AM   #27 
  - Never pity a bully  undergroundpanther   Apr-07-06 11:34 PM   #150 
  - Those recommendations for healthier diets & more exercise....  Bridget Burke   Apr-05-06 10:49 AM   #36 
     - Please read the context of the comment before commenting on it  melody   Apr-05-06 10:52 AM   #38 
     - I've been to the referenced thread.  Bridget Burke   Apr-05-06 11:01 AM   #41 
        - I'm not talking about the non-rude ones  melody   Apr-05-06 11:02 AM   #43 
        - Again with the "angry" theme? Why are you so fixated on anger?  Beausoir   Apr-05-06 11:14 AM   #49 
        - Because you ARE angry.  Bridget Burke   Apr-05-06 11:20 AM   #51 
        - Uhhh....what? "Whales are supposed to be large"? What does that have to  Beausoir   Apr-05-06 11:23 AM   #52 
        - a lot of people are supposed to be large, too  melody   Apr-05-06 11:29 AM   #53 
           - I did not make ONE rude post on that thread.  Bridget Burke   Apr-05-06 01:06 PM   #71 
        - Thanks for some of the rare positive posts in this thread  melody   Apr-05-06 11:31 AM   #54 
        - Back at you! I will NEVER condone the cruelty this society shows to kids  Beausoir   Apr-05-06 11:35 AM   #55 
        - defend all kids  Phx_Dem   Apr-05-06 12:28 PM   #60 
           - You are so right. We need more people like you.  Beausoir   Apr-06-06 12:07 AM   #98 
        - "adults" prefer to name call  diamidue   Apr-05-06 12:52 PM   #67 
           - Welcome to DU, diamidue! You seem like a kindly sort of person.  Beausoir   Apr-06-06 12:10 AM   #99 
        - please direct me to the thread  Teresa4ChrisCarney   Apr-08-06 10:36 AM   #151 
     - They have no relationship whatsoever to obesity  eridani   Apr-07-06 03:10 AM   #132 
  - My but you're crass.  there-s a   Apr-05-06 11:19 AM   #50 
     - I apologize to all I have offended  WatchWhatISay   Apr-06-06 01:49 AM   #107 
  - maybe because women have found out about HFCS...  progressivebydesign   Apr-04-06 09:59 PM   #9 
  - and because we women are so mean spirited  pitohui   Apr-04-06 10:15 PM   #13 
  - You're right-there is something else going on  AllieB   Apr-05-06 09:53 AM   #22 
  - estrogenic mimic chemicals- good supposition. Also, HFCS & may I suggest  cryingshame   Apr-05-06 11:03 AM   #45 
  - That accounts for some overweight, some obesity, but not all  melody   Apr-04-06 11:16 PM   #15 
  - other than if you consume more calories  Phx_Dem   Apr-05-06 12:31 PM   #62 
     - Don't confuse the issue with logic  VelmaD   Apr-06-06 08:06 AM   #111 
        - When I stay out of the sun, my skin stays light  eridani   Apr-07-06 03:13 AM   #133 
  - I despise HFCS  UpInArms   Apr-04-06 11:42 PM   #17 
  - Apple & Eve makes juices with no corn syrup. I, muself stopped drinking  cryingshame   Apr-05-06 11:06 AM   #47 
     - Yeah, we don't do juice of any kind in my house.  SmokingJacket   Apr-05-06 08:15 PM   #85 
  - HFCS  diamidue   Apr-05-06 11:59 AM   #58 
  - This study sounds only half true  DUHandle   Apr-05-06 08:35 AM   #19 
  - I don't see how anyone can claim that morbid obesity is not a big deal  mconvente   Apr-05-06 11:08 AM   #48 
  - read the research and make your own conclusions  melody   Apr-05-06 11:46 AM   #57 
  - Thanks, Melody  CTyankee   Apr-05-06 04:25 PM   #73 
     - Pear shaped women live longer  melody   Apr-05-06 06:54 PM   #78 
        - No, you arenot the lone person  CTyankee   Apr-05-06 08:27 PM   #87 
           - Thank you, my friend  melody   Apr-06-06 12:17 AM   #101 
  - don't confuse people w/the facts ;) n/t  Phx_Dem   Apr-05-06 12:34 PM   #63 
  - you're spot on  WindRavenX   Apr-05-06 04:46 PM   #76 
  - Then you should have words with my doctor  melody   Apr-05-06 07:06 PM   #80 
  - You're right that body size isn't a fool-proof indicator of one's health..  WindRavenX   Apr-05-06 11:42 PM   #90 
     - And I think you're exaggerating the health "impacts" markedly  melody   Apr-05-06 11:50 PM   #91 
        - I go by what I know for sure  WindRavenX   Apr-06-06 12:01 AM   #94 
           - rebuttal - and the last one :)  melody   Apr-06-06 12:14 AM   #100 
           - Ahh I found your key:  WindRavenX   Apr-06-06 12:18 AM   #102 
              - Happy and healthy are in the eye of the beholder  melody   Apr-06-06 12:37 AM   #106 
           - "Straining the heart" is good for you  eridani   Apr-07-06 03:15 AM   #134 
  - You are So right  Mike03   Apr-05-06 08:51 PM   #89 
  - Bigotry is based on ignorance  melody   Apr-06-06 12:06 AM   #97 
     - Whew! You're on a roll. nt  Marie26   Apr-06-06 11:41 PM   #124 
  - WindRaven..I have enjoyed your posts for quite some time....  Beausoir   Apr-06-06 12:21 AM   #103 
     - trust me, I know  WindRavenX   Apr-06-06 12:24 AM   #104 
  - I've got to agree that there ARE health risks associated with morbid  BleedingHeartPatriot   Apr-05-06 08:30 PM   #88 
     - And there are health deficits and benefits in any physical difference  melody   Apr-06-06 12:00 AM   #93 
        - As long as a morbidly obese person doesn't need surgery, than I guess  BleedingHeartPatriot   Apr-06-06 07:24 AM   #110 
        - True, and there are things that endanger thin people also  melody   Apr-06-06 03:07 PM   #114 
        - it's hard for some people to accept  pitohui   Apr-06-06 03:37 PM   #115 
           - exactly. well said. n/t  melody   Apr-06-06 05:27 PM   #117 
           - I don't have to "accept" that morbid obesity is a major risk factor for  BleedingHeartPatriot   Apr-07-06 07:17 AM   #135 
  - Does this mean they will level out at say..220 or 230? n/t  Jose Diablo   Apr-05-06 12:29 PM   #61 
  - Meanwhile, adult anorexia is on the rise.  SmokingJacket   Apr-05-06 08:17 PM   #86 
  - exactly. excellent link. n/t  melody   Apr-06-06 12:35 AM   #105 
  - It seems that at least one poster would think that is a good thing  Nikia   Apr-07-06 04:43 PM   #140 
  - However, that may have more to do with improved diagnosis.  HuckleB   Apr-07-06 10:59 PM   #149 
  - Obesity isn't bad per se, it's Obesity and LAZINESS.  Odin2005   Apr-06-06 12:16 PM   #113 
  - I've got 15 grandchildren and the heavy ones are the ones  onecent   Apr-07-06 05:18 PM   #141 
  - I have seen many advances in our understanding of how we  hedgehog   Apr-07-06 08:41 PM   #144 
 

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