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Wed Apr-05-06 08:35 AM
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| 19. This study sounds only half true |
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Obesity isn't specific to women.
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| -WP: Study Shows Plateau in Obesity in U.S. Women |
DeepModem Mom |
Apr-04-06 06:23 PM |
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I really don't understand what this means. |
NYC |
Apr-04-06 07:36 PM |
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It's because it's nonsense |
melody |
Apr-04-06 08:07 PM |
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I agree with you! |
CountAllVotes |
Apr-04-06 08:28 PM |
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fat people often have artificially high blood pressure |
melody |
Apr-04-06 08:39 PM |
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no joke! |
CountAllVotes |
Apr-04-06 08:47 PM |
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Interesting stuff on the BP.. |
progressivebydesign |
Apr-04-06 10:02 PM |
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Exactly, well said |
melody |
Apr-04-06 11:23 PM |
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I'm all for acceptance |
Marie26 |
Apr-05-06 09:03 AM |
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not true |
melody |
Apr-05-06 10:05 AM |
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Please |
Marie26 |
Apr-05-06 10:28 AM |
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Oy -- the same nonsense studies repeated |
melody |
Apr-05-06 10:40 AM |
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"Nonsense studies" by the American Cancer Society. |
Marie26 |
Apr-05-06 10:57 AM |
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I don't go into this on public forums, so this ends the thread |
melody |
Apr-05-06 11:01 AM |
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Alrighty then |
Marie26 |
Apr-05-06 12:47 PM |
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Have you read this stuff? |
melody |
Apr-05-06 12:56 PM |
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I thought you weren't getting into this? nt |
Marie26 |
Apr-05-06 12:58 PM |
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What kind of argument is that? |
melody |
Apr-05-06 01:00 PM |
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A pretty good one |
Marie26 |
Apr-05-06 01:16 PM |
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Ain't that the truth? |
raccoon |
Apr-05-06 12:26 PM |
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nope |
Skittles |
Apr-09-06 03:34 AM |
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Marie26 is correct. |
Oregonian |
Apr-05-06 10:37 AM |
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Let me clarify this to say that not all obesity is a result of |
Oregonian |
Apr-05-06 10:40 AM |
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you are exhibiting an attitude often triggered by bias against fat people |
melody |
Apr-05-06 10:45 AM |
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Nothing can be done about that |
eridani |
Apr-07-06 02:57 AM |
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Some Facts |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-06-06 09:26 PM |
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I agree Marie |
mimitabby |
Apr-05-06 04:39 PM |
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There were five when I was in school in one classroom |
melody |
Apr-05-06 07:22 PM |
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It is the strictly genetic tendency toward diabetes-- |
eridani |
Apr-07-06 02:54 AM |
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That is very simplistic. |
Marie26 |
Apr-07-06 08:25 PM |
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But when they lose weight they are still fat |
eridani |
Apr-07-06 10:08 PM |
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The same thing has happened - dropping the guidelines - |
FlaGranny |
Apr-05-06 12:42 PM |
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So how do you explain the dramatic increase |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-05-06 09:48 AM |
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Why the dramatic increase in autism? |
melody |
Apr-05-06 10:10 AM |
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autism |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-05-06 10:18 AM |
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if you aren't going to get diabetes, you can't make yourself get diabetes |
melody |
Apr-05-06 10:31 AM |
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there is not a definite causal connection between |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-05-06 10:52 AM |
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It's a symptom, not a cause |
melody |
Apr-05-06 10:55 AM |
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I'm trying to be polite |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-05-06 11:03 AM |
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You aren't being polite - you're clearly not trying. |
melody |
Apr-05-06 11:05 AM |
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sorry you think i'm "sneering" |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-05-06 11:38 AM |
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You might want to check out this course |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-06-06 09:32 PM |
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Evidence was offered. |
HuckleB |
Apr-07-06 10:55 PM |
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No casual connection between obesity and diabetes? |
WindRavenX |
Apr-05-06 04:35 PM |
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There is no causal connection between obesity and diabetes |
melody |
Apr-05-06 07:17 PM |
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You are technically correct |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-06-06 10:28 AM |
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Of course there is. Genetic diabetes causes obesity. |
eridani |
Apr-07-06 03:02 AM |
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that's a gross oversimplification |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-07-06 09:12 AM |
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Where are the controls? |
eridani |
Apr-07-06 10:11 PM |
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my last post |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-08-06 02:22 PM |
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So, why are you arguing in favor of model #2? |
eridani |
Apr-09-06 01:38 AM |
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I'll echo the others... |
saddemocrat |
Apr-07-06 09:20 AM |
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What on earth does one have to do w/the other? nt |
Marie26 |
Apr-05-06 10:35 AM |
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Read the context of his question |
melody |
Apr-05-06 10:40 AM |
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See my post 64. |
FlaGranny |
Apr-05-06 12:44 PM |
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Extended life expectancy, of course |
eridani |
Apr-07-06 03:00 AM |
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That just proves that men should have sex change operations-- |
eridani |
Apr-07-06 02:52 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-04-06 08:12 PM |
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it's door number 2 |
pitohui |
Apr-04-06 10:11 PM |
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Maybe, ,maybe not |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-05-06 09:54 AM |
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Yes, most people who eat low calorie like under 1000 calories |
Nikia |
Apr-05-06 06:31 PM |
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Exactly |
melody |
Apr-05-06 07:09 PM |
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I thought you were ignoring me |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-06-06 08:07 PM |
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faulty logic |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-06-06 08:35 PM |
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Maybe that's the case w/caloric restriction |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-06-06 08:05 PM |
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That only applies to critters with very short lifespans. |
eridani |
Apr-07-06 03:08 AM |
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Maybe your right |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-07-06 09:01 AM |
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My antedotal evidence says |
Nikia |
Apr-07-06 04:37 PM |
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I was not suggesting anyone should eat that little |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-07-06 07:08 PM |
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nikia is right |
pitohui |
Apr-08-06 03:44 PM |
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Anecdotal evidence is nonsense |
eridani |
Apr-07-06 10:14 PM |
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if you're so thin it creates concern... |
pitohui |
Apr-06-06 03:42 PM |
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I eat fine, thanks |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-06-06 08:07 PM |
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it can be a genuine struggle |
pitohui |
Apr-08-06 03:41 PM |
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All it means is that the insurance companies have reached |
SoCalDem |
Apr-05-06 07:04 PM |
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That's probably what it means. |
NYC |
Apr-05-06 08:04 PM |
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It was a formal gala for Prince Charles..apparently she was |
SoCalDem |
Apr-05-06 11:51 PM |
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Norma Desmond. What a similarity. |
NYC |
Apr-06-06 12:04 AM |
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check them out in black & white |
SoCalDem |
Apr-06-06 02:21 AM |
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Norma Desmond looks less insane. |
NYC |
Apr-06-06 02:32 AM |
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Lost my connection. |
NYC |
Apr-06-06 12:05 AM |
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We don't, in general, live in a 'toxic' environment |
eridani |
Apr-07-06 02:51 AM |
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I know the reason why |
WatchWhatISay |
Apr-04-06 08:58 PM |
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Would you use a pejorative term like that for any other minority |
melody |
Apr-04-06 09:35 PM |
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Well, you ought not. Overweight and obese people are not a |
kiraboo |
Apr-04-06 10:15 PM |
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We are a minority |
melody |
Apr-04-06 11:15 PM |
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I took a bashing in that thread for stating that it is cruel to call |
Beausoir |
Apr-05-06 08:14 AM |
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such people are bullies and often borderline sociopathic |
melody |
Apr-05-06 10:27 AM |
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Never pity a bully |
undergroundpanther |
Apr-07-06 11:34 PM |
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Those recommendations for healthier diets & more exercise.... |
Bridget Burke |
Apr-05-06 10:49 AM |
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Please read the context of the comment before commenting on it |
melody |
Apr-05-06 10:52 AM |
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I've been to the referenced thread. |
Bridget Burke |
Apr-05-06 11:01 AM |
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I'm not talking about the non-rude ones |
melody |
Apr-05-06 11:02 AM |
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Again with the "angry" theme? Why are you so fixated on anger? |
Beausoir |
Apr-05-06 11:14 AM |
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Because you ARE angry. |
Bridget Burke |
Apr-05-06 11:20 AM |
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Uhhh....what? "Whales are supposed to be large"? What does that have to |
Beausoir |
Apr-05-06 11:23 AM |
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a lot of people are supposed to be large, too |
melody |
Apr-05-06 11:29 AM |
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I did not make ONE rude post on that thread. |
Bridget Burke |
Apr-05-06 01:06 PM |
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Thanks for some of the rare positive posts in this thread |
melody |
Apr-05-06 11:31 AM |
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Back at you! I will NEVER condone the cruelty this society shows to kids |
Beausoir |
Apr-05-06 11:35 AM |
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defend all kids |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-05-06 12:28 PM |
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You are so right. We need more people like you. |
Beausoir |
Apr-06-06 12:07 AM |
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"adults" prefer to name call |
diamidue |
Apr-05-06 12:52 PM |
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Welcome to DU, diamidue! You seem like a kindly sort of person. |
Beausoir |
Apr-06-06 12:10 AM |
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please direct me to the thread |
Teresa4ChrisCarney |
Apr-08-06 10:36 AM |
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They have no relationship whatsoever to obesity |
eridani |
Apr-07-06 03:10 AM |
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My but you're crass. |
there-s a |
Apr-05-06 11:19 AM |
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I apologize to all I have offended |
WatchWhatISay |
Apr-06-06 01:49 AM |
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maybe because women have found out about HFCS... |
progressivebydesign |
Apr-04-06 09:59 PM |
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and because we women are so mean spirited |
pitohui |
Apr-04-06 10:15 PM |
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You're right-there is something else going on |
AllieB |
Apr-05-06 09:53 AM |
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estrogenic mimic chemicals- good supposition. Also, HFCS & may I suggest |
cryingshame |
Apr-05-06 11:03 AM |
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That accounts for some overweight, some obesity, but not all |
melody |
Apr-04-06 11:16 PM |
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other than if you consume more calories |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-05-06 12:31 PM |
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Don't confuse the issue with logic |
VelmaD |
Apr-06-06 08:06 AM |
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When I stay out of the sun, my skin stays light |
eridani |
Apr-07-06 03:13 AM |
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I despise HFCS |
UpInArms |
Apr-04-06 11:42 PM |
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Apple & Eve makes juices with no corn syrup. I, muself stopped drinking |
cryingshame |
Apr-05-06 11:06 AM |
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Yeah, we don't do juice of any kind in my house. |
SmokingJacket |
Apr-05-06 08:15 PM |
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HFCS |
diamidue |
Apr-05-06 11:59 AM |
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This study sounds only half true |
DUHandle |
Apr-05-06 08:35 AM |
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I don't see how anyone can claim that morbid obesity is not a big deal |
mconvente |
Apr-05-06 11:08 AM |
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read the research and make your own conclusions |
melody |
Apr-05-06 11:46 AM |
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Thanks, Melody |
CTyankee |
Apr-05-06 04:25 PM |
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Pear shaped women live longer |
melody |
Apr-05-06 06:54 PM |
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No, you arenot the lone person |
CTyankee |
Apr-05-06 08:27 PM |
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Thank you, my friend |
melody |
Apr-06-06 12:17 AM |
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don't confuse people w/the facts ;) n/t |
Phx_Dem |
Apr-05-06 12:34 PM |
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you're spot on |
WindRavenX |
Apr-05-06 04:46 PM |
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Then you should have words with my doctor |
melody |
Apr-05-06 07:06 PM |
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You're right that body size isn't a fool-proof indicator of one's health.. |
WindRavenX |
Apr-05-06 11:42 PM |
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And I think you're exaggerating the health "impacts" markedly |
melody |
Apr-05-06 11:50 PM |
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I go by what I know for sure |
WindRavenX |
Apr-06-06 12:01 AM |
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rebuttal - and the last one :) |
melody |
Apr-06-06 12:14 AM |
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Ahh I found your key: |
WindRavenX |
Apr-06-06 12:18 AM |
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Happy and healthy are in the eye of the beholder |
melody |
Apr-06-06 12:37 AM |
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"Straining the heart" is good for you |
eridani |
Apr-07-06 03:15 AM |
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You are So right |
Mike03 |
Apr-05-06 08:51 PM |
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Bigotry is based on ignorance |
melody |
Apr-06-06 12:06 AM |
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Whew! You're on a roll. nt |
Marie26 |
Apr-06-06 11:41 PM |
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WindRaven..I have enjoyed your posts for quite some time.... |
Beausoir |
Apr-06-06 12:21 AM |
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trust me, I know |
WindRavenX |
Apr-06-06 12:24 AM |
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I've got to agree that there ARE health risks associated with morbid |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Apr-05-06 08:30 PM |
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And there are health deficits and benefits in any physical difference |
melody |
Apr-06-06 12:00 AM |
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As long as a morbidly obese person doesn't need surgery, than I guess |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Apr-06-06 07:24 AM |
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True, and there are things that endanger thin people also |
melody |
Apr-06-06 03:07 PM |
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it's hard for some people to accept |
pitohui |
Apr-06-06 03:37 PM |
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exactly. well said. n/t |
melody |
Apr-06-06 05:27 PM |
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I don't have to "accept" that morbid obesity is a major risk factor for |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Apr-07-06 07:17 AM |
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Does this mean they will level out at say..220 or 230? n/t |
Jose Diablo |
Apr-05-06 12:29 PM |
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Meanwhile, adult anorexia is on the rise. |
SmokingJacket |
Apr-05-06 08:17 PM |
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exactly. excellent link. n/t |
melody |
Apr-06-06 12:35 AM |
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It seems that at least one poster would think that is a good thing |
Nikia |
Apr-07-06 04:43 PM |
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However, that may have more to do with improved diagnosis. |
HuckleB |
Apr-07-06 10:59 PM |
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Obesity isn't bad per se, it's Obesity and LAZINESS. |
Odin2005 |
Apr-06-06 12:16 PM |
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I've got 15 grandchildren and the heavy ones are the ones |
onecent |
Apr-07-06 05:18 PM |
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I have seen many advances in our understanding of how we |
hedgehog |
Apr-07-06 08:41 PM |
#144 |
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