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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 08:58 AM
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5. Perhaps if it was done over two days and kids switched identities
Edited on Thu Mar-30-06 09:03 AM by cryingshame
These were teens, not little kids.

Learning to put oneself in others shoes is a valid and valuable lesson and role playing is a valid and valuable strategy.

Edit- read the whole article... there was NO preperation! Gads, the kids were just seperated out one day with no prior knowledge or discussion of what was going to happen.

And it sounds like there was no follow up discussions and chances for students to analyze and assimilate the expereience.
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  -School's 'Holocaust' Experiment Upsets Parents Tiberius  Mar-30-06 08:49 AM   #0 
  - Don't know if I agree with this approach  Canuckistanian   Mar-30-06 08:55 AM   #1 
  - Perhaps if it was done over two days and kids switched identities  cryingshame   Mar-30-06 08:58 AM   #5 
     - An eighth grader crying over this??? A GIRLY MAN  saigon68   Mar-30-06 12:22 PM   #41 
     - Thanks for the above quote.  pnorman   Mar-30-06 06:54 PM   #56 
     - Was Mordecai Anilewitz 13 when he did it?  AlienGirl   Mar-31-06 12:38 AM   #69 
        - How old were the idiots who planned this experiment?  saigon68   Mar-31-06 02:59 AM   #70 
     - 13 is too young for such a mind game  Demeter   Mar-30-06 04:11 PM   #51 
  - this is terrible. haven't they heard of parental consent forms?  unblock   Mar-30-06 08:55 AM   #2 
  - I seem to recall a similar 'experiment' in the 60s (?), where  babylonsister   Mar-30-06 08:58 AM   #3 
  - Is that the experiment where the children were divided out by the color  efhmc   Mar-30-06 09:12 AM   #16 
  - Yep: linked downthread. There's also  babylonsister   Mar-30-06 09:19 AM   #23 
  - I remember reading about that in college.  BrklynLiberal   Mar-30-06 04:50 PM   #53 
  - "A Class Divided" watch it here:  mzmolly   Mar-30-06 10:02 AM   #31 
  - Also in the 1970's NT  Coastie for Truth   Mar-30-06 11:48 AM   #38 
  - Infamous Blue Eyes/Brown Eyes experiment.  rucky   Mar-30-06 06:57 PM   #57 
  - "the only thing i learned was that i don't want to be a jew".  unblock   Mar-30-06 08:58 AM   #4 
  - seems like the 8 year olds in the pbs show showed more  cleofus1   Mar-30-06 10:07 AM   #32 
  - That's what I thought, too  mycritters2   Mar-30-06 06:18 PM   #54 
  - 8th graders should have been able to handle this  cleofus1   Mar-30-06 09:01 AM   #6 
  - Emotional development isn't on a timeline.  ihaveaquestion   Mar-30-06 09:07 AM   #11 
     - good point  cleofus1   Mar-30-06 09:13 AM   #18 
        - I agree  cyr330   Mar-30-06 01:02 PM   #45 
           - I talked with my just 14 year old grandson and asked him what  jwirr   Mar-30-06 03:41 PM   #48 
  - I absolutely condone it, but not for eighth graders  sui generis   Mar-30-06 09:03 AM   #7 
  - all it does it ruin their trust in the teacher.  rucky   Mar-30-06 07:01 PM   #58 
  - I dunno, I'm a parent  wildeyed   Mar-30-06 09:03 AM   #8 
  - Not only the parents, but the TEENS weren't prepared in any way  cryingshame   Mar-30-06 09:07 AM   #12 
     - I hear what you are saying,  wildeyed   Mar-30-06 09:40 AM   #27 
     - Understood, but wanting a kids to experience trauma falls into the realm  cryingshame   Mar-30-06 12:21 PM   #40 
     - You are a very good parent.  jwirr   Mar-30-06 03:45 PM   #49 
        - That is a nice thing to say.  wildeyed   Mar-30-06 04:03 PM   #50 
     - No One Ever Expects the Spanish Inquisition  Crisco   Mar-30-06 12:24 PM   #43 
  - ok...i read the article  cleofus1   Mar-30-06 09:04 AM   #9 
  - by the time i was in the 8th grade  cleofus1   Mar-30-06 09:07 AM   #10 
  - And, my best friend;'s granny had a tattoo on her arm, courtesy  LostinVA   Mar-30-06 09:13 AM   #19 
  - Have these kids forgotten that Jesus was a Jew  Sequoia   Mar-30-06 12:23 PM   #42 
  - At 13, I couldn't have handled it  AlienGirl   Mar-31-06 12:16 AM   #65 
  - I think..  cannabis_flower   Mar-30-06 09:07 AM   #13 
  - I would worry about that guys' kids mental health  superconnected   Mar-30-06 09:10 AM   #14 
  - let me reiterate  cleofus1   Mar-30-06 09:12 AM   #15 
  - Here's the story on the 1968 experiment, done w/3rd graders:  babylonsister   Mar-30-06 09:13 AM   #17 
  - adolescents do this stuff to each other EVERY day alread...  msongs   Mar-30-06 09:15 AM   #20 
  - This kind of role playing can be traumatic.  ihaveaquestion   Mar-30-06 09:15 AM   #21 
  - That's like when Carlos Mencia...  sugapablo   Mar-30-06 09:19 AM   #22 
  - It is an effective teaching method, with one important change:  coffeenap   Mar-30-06 09:20 AM   #24 
  - yup  cleofus1   Mar-30-06 09:30 AM   #25 
  - I think you mean Nick Lowe, Cleo sweetie.  fudge stripe cookays   Mar-30-06 08:05 PM   #61 
     - doh!  cleofus1   Mar-30-06 09:48 PM   #64 
  - Some centrist parties went along with Hitler's grab at dictatorial power  kenny blankenship   Mar-30-06 09:38 AM   #26 
  - OPrah did that exact thing once,a nd people got so offended  LostinVA   Mar-30-06 11:05 AM   #35 
  - I applaud the teacher  abluelady   Mar-30-06 09:42 AM   #28 
  - Having been the only black  Karenina   Mar-30-06 01:04 PM   #46 
  - Wonder if 'acceptance' of this  MrPrax   Mar-30-06 09:51 AM   #29 
  - I have mixed feelings. I think if the kids were told about it before hand  mzmolly   Mar-30-06 10:00 AM   #30 
  - I think it was a fine teaching method and the parent should have  donsu   Mar-30-06 10:24 AM   #33 
  - Holocaust classes should be replaced with HISTORY OF GENOCIDE  Copperred   Mar-30-06 11:02 AM   #34 
  - Sounds to me like the lesson was not taught well  DrGonzoLives   Mar-30-06 11:07 AM   #36 
  - That seems a metaphor of what life will be like for a large percentage  SimpleTrend   Mar-30-06 11:11 AM   #37 
  - "a dozen parents" complained.  onehandle   Mar-30-06 12:15 PM   #39 
  - I think that this was a very creative teaching method...  bleedingheart   Mar-30-06 12:31 PM   #44 
  - This same practice was used several years ago only the  jwirr   Mar-30-06 03:31 PM   #47 
  - I was part of a similar exercise..  Cassius23   Mar-30-06 04:18 PM   #52 
  - The problem isn't the experiment, it's the predictable results.  lumberjack_jeff   Mar-30-06 06:54 PM   #55 
  - Uh oh, you mean they LEARNED something?  hotforteacher   Mar-30-06 07:08 PM   #59 
  - They learned how subject to trauma they are.  AlienGirl   Mar-31-06 12:33 AM   #67 
  - Sounds like a wimpy version of The Third Wave experiment.  godhatesrepublicans   Mar-30-06 07:41 PM   #60 
  - I understand the idea that the school should have told the students...  Zodiak Ironfist   Mar-30-06 08:29 PM   #62 
  - Forgive me if I'm not dripping with sympathy for them  American Tragedy   Mar-30-06 09:36 PM   #63 
  - Are you sure his normal daily experience *Isn't* traumatic?  AlienGirl   Mar-31-06 12:30 AM   #66 
  - What of the grand-child of survivors? How traumatic would this be to them?  AlienGirl   Mar-31-06 12:35 AM   #68 
  - It seems out of place....  JohnnyJ   Mar-31-06 03:03 AM   #71 

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