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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:16 AM
Response to Reply #99
101. people get elected "for life"
all the time. Is that democratic. that was the question.

For instance, Saparmurat Atayevich Niyazov in Turkmenistan was elected "President for Life" was that democratic? what's your definition?
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  -Venezuela aims for biggest military reserve in Americas cal04  Mar-03-06 10:43 PM   #0 
  - and the arms race continues n/t  BareNakedLiberal   Mar-03-06 10:44 PM   #1 
  - meanwhile Venezuelans live in poverty  corporate_mike   Mar-05-06 01:51 AM   #49 
  - as do Americans  BareNakedLiberal   Mar-05-06 02:41 PM   #53 
  - Americans have a much higher standard of living than Venezuelans  corporate_mike   Mar-05-06 02:56 PM   #54 
  - Having not been to Venezuela  BareNakedLiberal   Mar-05-06 04:47 PM   #62 
  - yes and no  Bacchus39   Mar-05-06 08:19 PM   #69 
     - Do you live there?  BareNakedLiberal   Mar-05-06 09:22 PM   #70 
        - no, but visited several times  Bacchus39   Mar-05-06 09:33 PM   #71 
           - thanks for the travelogue  BareNakedLiberal   Mar-05-06 10:45 PM   #73 
              - you should  Bacchus39   Mar-06-06 08:12 AM   #75 
  - not for long  IsItJustMe   Mar-05-06 05:03 PM   #64 
  - Everybody has the right to defend themselves.  Jack_DeLeon   Mar-06-06 11:23 PM   #84 
  - and whose fault is that? Shit the US has had  happydreams   Mar-05-06 03:22 PM   #57 
  - Should countries with more than X% poverty forfeit armed forces?  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Mar-05-06 03:42 PM   #58 
     - They should spend billions and billions on guns  corporate_mike   Mar-05-06 04:25 PM   #61 
        - I guess that means a yes.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Mar-06-06 04:00 PM   #79 
           - They are delusional if they think they can defend themselves by going poor  corporate_mike   Mar-07-06 08:28 AM   #88 
              - That don't have to become a military powerhouse.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Mar-07-06 10:08 AM   #89 
  - spurred on by * war mentality scaring the hell out of everyone  IsItJustMe   Mar-05-06 05:02 PM   #63 
  - Sad, isn't it  liberalmike27   Mar-03-06 10:53 PM   #2 
  - The rest of the world better follow their example if they don't want to be  TankLV   Mar-03-06 11:02 PM   #3 
  - Most of it will be spent on salaries for working class people, which is...  1932   Mar-03-06 11:51 PM   #11 
  - Whats so sad about the people having the means to defend themselves?  davepc   Mar-05-06 03:14 PM   #55 
  - Glad to see someone respects the true spirit of the US 2nd Amendment  DBoon   Mar-03-06 11:08 PM   #4 
  - And in a few years, these new recruits will oust El Presidente.  madeline_con   Mar-03-06 11:13 PM   #5 
  - Venezuela prepared for possible US sanctions: minister  Judi Lynn   Mar-03-06 11:15 PM   #6 
  - Judi Lynn...i have been meaning to ask u this...  mexicoxpat   Mar-04-06 08:12 AM   #23 
     - I don't know a thing on this, sorry. I'll be keeping an eye out for any  Judi Lynn   Mar-04-06 08:38 AM   #24 
     - Thanks!  mexicoxpat   Mar-04-06 09:14 AM   #27 
        - Hi, mexicopat. I've found a few references to new refineries.....  Judi Lynn   Mar-04-06 12:05 PM   #34 
           - You are good!!!  mexicoxpat   Mar-04-06 02:51 PM   #38 
     - Mexicopat, Colombia has four oil refineries. Just ran across this:  Judi Lynn   Mar-07-06 04:58 AM   #86 
  - they are DESTABILIZING THE REGION ! ! ! ! !  HuffleClaw   Mar-03-06 11:19 PM   #7 
  - African Union is to support Venezuela to join Security Council  Judi Lynn   Mar-03-06 11:19 PM   #8 
  - And they're only three days drive from the Mexican border!  1932   Mar-03-06 11:49 PM   #9 
  - When you spend more on your military than the rest of the planet.  Rex   Mar-03-06 11:51 PM   #10 
  - I hate this....  Robeson   Mar-04-06 12:05 AM   #12 
  - I read Richard Gott's book on Venezuela. Venezuelan army operates as a WPA  1932   Mar-04-06 12:12 AM   #13 
  - Oh, I'm not knocking him....  Robeson   Mar-04-06 12:23 AM   #14 
  - Most armies around the world are conscript labor, and most can't fight.  sofa king   Mar-04-06 09:56 AM   #28 
     - A slightly different characterization one would get from Gott's book  1932   Mar-04-06 11:15 AM   #29 
        - Excellent point.  Jack_DeLeon   Mar-07-06 10:49 PM   #92 
  - This is the greatest American tradition: the people's militia!  IndianaGreen   Mar-04-06 11:39 AM   #31 
  - Correct. Still Chavez having an army that answers "directly to him"  tom_paine   Mar-04-06 09:46 PM   #46 
  - Some clever wording here, I think  daleo   Mar-04-06 12:29 AM   #15 
  - The US military is dying for OIL in Iraq  IndianaGreen   Mar-04-06 11:52 AM   #33 
  - looks like good planning-the U.S. WILL attempt to TAKE resources from any  NIGHT TRIPPER   Mar-04-06 12:52 AM   #16 
  - Like Saudi and Kuwait?  Pavulon   Mar-04-06 08:55 AM   #26 
     - what's yer point? Saudi and Kuwait give payola to Korporate Amerikka  NIGHT TRIPPER   Mar-04-06 02:23 PM   #37 
        - So does citgo  Pavulon   Mar-04-06 03:02 PM   #39 
           - if you don't like my humoppr don't read it - put me on ignore-- ok?  NIGHT TRIPPER   Mar-04-06 04:12 PM   #41 
           - I like your humor and fricking A right Korporation Korporation LOL  IsItJustMe   Mar-05-06 05:49 PM   #68 
           - No one has invaded Mexico? Oh, my gosh.  Judi Lynn   Mar-04-06 06:54 PM   #42 
              - Yes  Pavulon   Mar-04-06 07:30 PM   #43 
                 - Pavulon - you're a breath of fresh air  Psephos   Mar-04-06 08:04 PM   #44 
                    - Thanks  Pavulon   Mar-04-06 08:23 PM   #45 
                    - "If you work for a living...it's in your interest to vote D."  Psephos   Mar-05-06 12:28 AM   #47 
                    - -----cough cough cough!!----smoggy moutain breakdown---whew eeee!  NIGHT TRIPPER   Mar-05-06 01:42 AM   #48 
                       - Have studied Business  Pavulon   Mar-05-06 03:20 PM   #56 
                          - funny!!! Now study history!--connect the dots!  NIGHT TRIPPER   Mar-06-06 12:19 AM   #74 
  - One thing struck me when reading this...  hughee99   Mar-04-06 01:09 AM   #17 
  - What's wrong with that?  David__77   Mar-04-06 02:00 AM   #22 
  - I didn't say there was anything wrong with it...  hughee99   Mar-04-06 11:27 AM   #30 
  - Seems like I have heard the word 'homeland' somewhere also  IsItJustMe   Mar-05-06 05:26 PM   #65 
  - You can have a dictator that most are willing to follow. We have one  cantstandbush   Mar-08-06 08:03 AM   #116 
  - Live by the sword, die by the sword  Psephos   Mar-04-06 01:11 AM   #18 
  - To give money and jobs to poor people?  1932   Mar-04-06 01:21 AM   #20 
     - To reduce the risk of a coup from a too-large active-duty army  Psephos   Mar-04-06 01:41 AM   #21 
        - the army is loyal to him  1932   Mar-04-06 08:46 AM   #25 
        - from both sides, remember  northzax   Mar-05-06 04:16 PM   #59 
           - This reads like fiction. Like a fantasy.  1932   Mar-05-06 09:36 PM   #72 
              - which part?  northzax   Mar-06-06 11:34 AM   #77 
                 - This part:  1932   Mar-06-06 09:50 PM   #82 
                    - er, the article posted said he was creating a militia  northzax   Mar-06-06 11:21 PM   #83 
                       - reread what you wrote  1932   Mar-07-06 08:12 AM   #87 
                          - well, I know the constitution of Venezuela was ratified in 1999  northzax   Mar-07-06 11:23 AM   #90 
                             - Chavez can't give himself a third term.  1932   Mar-07-06 09:26 PM   #91 
                                - kinda defeats the entire concept of a constitution, doesn't it?  northzax   Mar-08-06 12:05 AM   #93 
                                   - I guess they'll have to amend it so that it requires more than 50%  1932   Mar-08-06 12:12 AM   #94 
                                   - The constitution is meaningless  northzax   Mar-08-06 01:03 AM   #97 
                                      - Quite a catch-22 there. People are so happy with constitution  1932   Mar-08-06 01:09 AM   #99 
                                         - people get elected "for life"  northzax   Mar-08-06 01:16 AM   #101 
                                            - FDR got elected and reelected for life. I loved that - very Democratic!  1932   Mar-08-06 01:19 AM   #102 
                                               - indeed, and what did it take to remove FDR from office?  northzax   Mar-08-06 01:31 AM   #105 
                                                  - He saved us from American fascists. (Read Philip Roth's last book.)  1932   Mar-08-06 01:40 AM   #109 
                                                  - you just cited a work of fiction! fabulous  northzax   Mar-08-06 01:43 AM   #110 
                                                  - Unfortunately, there's no historical text addressing what happened  1932   Mar-08-06 01:50 AM   #112 
                                   - Are you and 1932 one and the same person?  IndianaGreen   Mar-08-06 12:17 AM   #95 
                                      - That better be a joke.  1932   Mar-08-06 12:37 AM   #96 
                                         - technically, you are slightly incorrect  northzax   Mar-08-06 01:04 AM   #98 
                                         - That's the process for an amendment.  1932   Mar-08-06 01:13 AM   #100 
                                            - the point is that no one really knows  northzax   Mar-08-06 01:27 AM   #104 
                                               - That's A point, but it's not THE point raised by your posts.  1932   Mar-08-06 01:32 AM   #106 
                                                  - when it walks like a duck  northzax   Mar-08-06 01:37 AM   #108 
                                                  - It looks like that's going to happen unless the National Assembly reforms  1932   Mar-08-06 01:46 AM   #111 
                                         - I'm sure it was a joke. I think she was pointing out the fact you've got  Judi Lynn   Mar-08-06 01:24 AM   #103 
                                            - um, where did I say anything that is the 'right wing position'?  northzax   Mar-08-06 01:34 AM   #107 
                                               - You're relying on cliches.  1932   Mar-08-06 01:52 AM   #113 
                                               - The military strongmen in Latin America who come to mind were right-wing  Judi Lynn   Mar-08-06 02:03 AM   #114 
                                                  - Fittingly enough, 0007 just posted a great article which refers to  Judi Lynn   Mar-08-06 04:19 AM   #115 
  - Chavez is going to need an army to keep control  lovuian   Mar-04-06 01:14 AM   #19 
  - The people are in control, and they will remain in control  IndianaGreen   Mar-04-06 11:44 AM   #32 
     - Wonder if the North Americans will ever wake up like that and take  VegasWolf   Mar-04-06 12:09 PM   #35 
     - If you are sitting in a house  Pavulon   Mar-04-06 03:05 PM   #40 
     - And the corporations and capitalists don't like him because he  IsItJustMe   Mar-05-06 05:34 PM   #66 
  - Look at what bush has created.  goforit   Mar-04-06 12:14 PM   #36 
  - Venezuela to buy back $3.9 bln in bonds, pay loans  Judi Lynn   Mar-05-06 05:42 AM   #50 
  - I see Chavez is "throwing around billions" again.  ronnie624   Mar-05-06 01:12 PM   #51 
  - sounds like a very smart man. n/t  ret5hd   Mar-05-06 01:30 PM   #52 
  - Holy shit, you mean there is a government in the Americas...  Jack_DeLeon   Mar-06-06 11:26 PM   #85 
  - I find these Venezuela/Chavez threads fascinating...  Wrinkle_In_Time   Mar-05-06 04:20 PM   #60 
  - Very good observation. And I also have notices some die hard capitalists  IsItJustMe   Mar-05-06 05:44 PM   #67 
  - Hey, thanks for the kind words!  1932   Mar-06-06 08:21 AM   #76 
  - Official DU Hugo Chavez Right-Wing Falsehood Debunking Thread  rman   Mar-06-06 01:27 PM   #78 
  - News item: Venezuela car sales rise 41 pct in February  Judi Lynn   Mar-06-06 07:00 PM   #80 
  - Russia to help Venezuela put first astronaut into space  Judi Lynn   Mar-06-06 07:03 PM   #81 
 

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