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Wed Mar-08-06 01:16 AM
Response to Reply #99 |
| 101. people get elected "for life" |
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all the time. Is that democratic. that was the question.
For instance, Saparmurat Atayevich Niyazov in Turkmenistan was elected "President for Life" was that democratic? what's your definition?
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| -Venezuela aims for biggest military reserve in Americas |
cal04 |
Mar-03-06 10:43 PM |
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and the arms race continues n/t |
BareNakedLiberal |
Mar-03-06 10:44 PM |
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meanwhile Venezuelans live in poverty |
corporate_mike |
Mar-05-06 01:51 AM |
#49 |
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as do Americans |
BareNakedLiberal |
Mar-05-06 02:41 PM |
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Americans have a much higher standard of living than Venezuelans |
corporate_mike |
Mar-05-06 02:56 PM |
#54 |
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Having not been to Venezuela |
BareNakedLiberal |
Mar-05-06 04:47 PM |
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yes and no |
Bacchus39 |
Mar-05-06 08:19 PM |
#69 |
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Do you live there? |
BareNakedLiberal |
Mar-05-06 09:22 PM |
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no, but visited several times |
Bacchus39 |
Mar-05-06 09:33 PM |
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thanks for the travelogue |
BareNakedLiberal |
Mar-05-06 10:45 PM |
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you should |
Bacchus39 |
Mar-06-06 08:12 AM |
#75 |
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not for long |
IsItJustMe |
Mar-05-06 05:03 PM |
#64 |
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Everybody has the right to defend themselves. |
Jack_DeLeon |
Mar-06-06 11:23 PM |
#84 |
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and whose fault is that? Shit the US has had |
happydreams |
Mar-05-06 03:22 PM |
#57 |
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Should countries with more than X% poverty forfeit armed forces? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Mar-05-06 03:42 PM |
#58 |
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They should spend billions and billions on guns |
corporate_mike |
Mar-05-06 04:25 PM |
#61 |
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I guess that means a yes. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Mar-06-06 04:00 PM |
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They are delusional if they think they can defend themselves by going poor |
corporate_mike |
Mar-07-06 08:28 AM |
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That don't have to become a military powerhouse. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Mar-07-06 10:08 AM |
#89 |
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spurred on by * war mentality scaring the hell out of everyone |
IsItJustMe |
Mar-05-06 05:02 PM |
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Sad, isn't it |
liberalmike27 |
Mar-03-06 10:53 PM |
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The rest of the world better follow their example if they don't want to be |
TankLV |
Mar-03-06 11:02 PM |
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Most of it will be spent on salaries for working class people, which is... |
1932 |
Mar-03-06 11:51 PM |
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Whats so sad about the people having the means to defend themselves? |
davepc |
Mar-05-06 03:14 PM |
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Glad to see someone respects the true spirit of the US 2nd Amendment |
DBoon |
Mar-03-06 11:08 PM |
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And in a few years, these new recruits will oust El Presidente. |
madeline_con |
Mar-03-06 11:13 PM |
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Venezuela prepared for possible US sanctions: minister |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-03-06 11:15 PM |
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Judi Lynn...i have been meaning to ask u this... |
mexicoxpat |
Mar-04-06 08:12 AM |
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I don't know a thing on this, sorry. I'll be keeping an eye out for any |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-04-06 08:38 AM |
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Thanks! |
mexicoxpat |
Mar-04-06 09:14 AM |
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Hi, mexicopat. I've found a few references to new refineries..... |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-04-06 12:05 PM |
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You are good!!! |
mexicoxpat |
Mar-04-06 02:51 PM |
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Mexicopat, Colombia has four oil refineries. Just ran across this: |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-07-06 04:58 AM |
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they are DESTABILIZING THE REGION ! ! ! ! ! |
HuffleClaw |
Mar-03-06 11:19 PM |
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African Union is to support Venezuela to join Security Council |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-03-06 11:19 PM |
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And they're only three days drive from the Mexican border! |
1932 |
Mar-03-06 11:49 PM |
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When you spend more on your military than the rest of the planet. |
Rex |
Mar-03-06 11:51 PM |
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I hate this.... |
Robeson |
Mar-04-06 12:05 AM |
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I read Richard Gott's book on Venezuela. Venezuelan army operates as a WPA |
1932 |
Mar-04-06 12:12 AM |
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Oh, I'm not knocking him.... |
Robeson |
Mar-04-06 12:23 AM |
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Most armies around the world are conscript labor, and most can't fight. |
sofa king |
Mar-04-06 09:56 AM |
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A slightly different characterization one would get from Gott's book |
1932 |
Mar-04-06 11:15 AM |
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Excellent point. |
Jack_DeLeon |
Mar-07-06 10:49 PM |
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This is the greatest American tradition: the people's militia! |
IndianaGreen |
Mar-04-06 11:39 AM |
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Correct. Still Chavez having an army that answers "directly to him" |
tom_paine |
Mar-04-06 09:46 PM |
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Some clever wording here, I think |
daleo |
Mar-04-06 12:29 AM |
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The US military is dying for OIL in Iraq |
IndianaGreen |
Mar-04-06 11:52 AM |
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looks like good planning-the U.S. WILL attempt to TAKE resources from any |
NIGHT TRIPPER |
Mar-04-06 12:52 AM |
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Like Saudi and Kuwait? |
Pavulon |
Mar-04-06 08:55 AM |
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what's yer point? Saudi and Kuwait give payola to Korporate Amerikka |
NIGHT TRIPPER |
Mar-04-06 02:23 PM |
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So does citgo |
Pavulon |
Mar-04-06 03:02 PM |
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if you don't like my humoppr don't read it - put me on ignore-- ok? |
NIGHT TRIPPER |
Mar-04-06 04:12 PM |
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I like your humor and fricking A right Korporation Korporation LOL |
IsItJustMe |
Mar-05-06 05:49 PM |
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No one has invaded Mexico? Oh, my gosh. |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-04-06 06:54 PM |
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Yes |
Pavulon |
Mar-04-06 07:30 PM |
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Pavulon - you're a breath of fresh air |
Psephos |
Mar-04-06 08:04 PM |
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Thanks |
Pavulon |
Mar-04-06 08:23 PM |
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"If you work for a living...it's in your interest to vote D." |
Psephos |
Mar-05-06 12:28 AM |
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-----cough cough cough!!----smoggy moutain breakdown---whew eeee! |
NIGHT TRIPPER |
Mar-05-06 01:42 AM |
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Have studied Business |
Pavulon |
Mar-05-06 03:20 PM |
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funny!!! Now study history!--connect the dots! |
NIGHT TRIPPER |
Mar-06-06 12:19 AM |
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One thing struck me when reading this... |
hughee99 |
Mar-04-06 01:09 AM |
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What's wrong with that? |
David__77 |
Mar-04-06 02:00 AM |
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I didn't say there was anything wrong with it... |
hughee99 |
Mar-04-06 11:27 AM |
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Seems like I have heard the word 'homeland' somewhere also |
IsItJustMe |
Mar-05-06 05:26 PM |
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You can have a dictator that most are willing to follow. We have one |
cantstandbush |
Mar-08-06 08:03 AM |
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Live by the sword, die by the sword |
Psephos |
Mar-04-06 01:11 AM |
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To give money and jobs to poor people? |
1932 |
Mar-04-06 01:21 AM |
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To reduce the risk of a coup from a too-large active-duty army |
Psephos |
Mar-04-06 01:41 AM |
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the army is loyal to him |
1932 |
Mar-04-06 08:46 AM |
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from both sides, remember |
northzax |
Mar-05-06 04:16 PM |
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This reads like fiction. Like a fantasy. |
1932 |
Mar-05-06 09:36 PM |
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which part? |
northzax |
Mar-06-06 11:34 AM |
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This part: |
1932 |
Mar-06-06 09:50 PM |
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er, the article posted said he was creating a militia |
northzax |
Mar-06-06 11:21 PM |
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reread what you wrote |
1932 |
Mar-07-06 08:12 AM |
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well, I know the constitution of Venezuela was ratified in 1999 |
northzax |
Mar-07-06 11:23 AM |
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Chavez can't give himself a third term. |
1932 |
Mar-07-06 09:26 PM |
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kinda defeats the entire concept of a constitution, doesn't it? |
northzax |
Mar-08-06 12:05 AM |
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I guess they'll have to amend it so that it requires more than 50% |
1932 |
Mar-08-06 12:12 AM |
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The constitution is meaningless |
northzax |
Mar-08-06 01:03 AM |
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Quite a catch-22 there. People are so happy with constitution |
1932 |
Mar-08-06 01:09 AM |
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people get elected "for life" |
northzax |
Mar-08-06 01:16 AM |
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FDR got elected and reelected for life. I loved that - very Democratic! |
1932 |
Mar-08-06 01:19 AM |
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indeed, and what did it take to remove FDR from office? |
northzax |
Mar-08-06 01:31 AM |
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He saved us from American fascists. (Read Philip Roth's last book.) |
1932 |
Mar-08-06 01:40 AM |
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you just cited a work of fiction! fabulous |
northzax |
Mar-08-06 01:43 AM |
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Unfortunately, there's no historical text addressing what happened |
1932 |
Mar-08-06 01:50 AM |
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Are you and 1932 one and the same person? |
IndianaGreen |
Mar-08-06 12:17 AM |
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That better be a joke. |
1932 |
Mar-08-06 12:37 AM |
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technically, you are slightly incorrect |
northzax |
Mar-08-06 01:04 AM |
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That's the process for an amendment. |
1932 |
Mar-08-06 01:13 AM |
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the point is that no one really knows |
northzax |
Mar-08-06 01:27 AM |
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That's A point, but it's not THE point raised by your posts. |
1932 |
Mar-08-06 01:32 AM |
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when it walks like a duck |
northzax |
Mar-08-06 01:37 AM |
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It looks like that's going to happen unless the National Assembly reforms |
1932 |
Mar-08-06 01:46 AM |
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I'm sure it was a joke. I think she was pointing out the fact you've got |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-08-06 01:24 AM |
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um, where did I say anything that is the 'right wing position'? |
northzax |
Mar-08-06 01:34 AM |
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You're relying on cliches. |
1932 |
Mar-08-06 01:52 AM |
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The military strongmen in Latin America who come to mind were right-wing |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-08-06 02:03 AM |
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Fittingly enough, 0007 just posted a great article which refers to |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-08-06 04:19 AM |
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Chavez is going to need an army to keep control |
lovuian |
Mar-04-06 01:14 AM |
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The people are in control, and they will remain in control |
IndianaGreen |
Mar-04-06 11:44 AM |
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Wonder if the North Americans will ever wake up like that and take |
VegasWolf |
Mar-04-06 12:09 PM |
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If you are sitting in a house |
Pavulon |
Mar-04-06 03:05 PM |
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And the corporations and capitalists don't like him because he |
IsItJustMe |
Mar-05-06 05:34 PM |
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Look at what bush has created. |
goforit |
Mar-04-06 12:14 PM |
#36 |
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Venezuela to buy back $3.9 bln in bonds, pay loans |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-05-06 05:42 AM |
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I see Chavez is "throwing around billions" again. |
ronnie624 |
Mar-05-06 01:12 PM |
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sounds like a very smart man. n/t |
ret5hd |
Mar-05-06 01:30 PM |
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Holy shit, you mean there is a government in the Americas... |
Jack_DeLeon |
Mar-06-06 11:26 PM |
#85 |
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I find these Venezuela/Chavez threads fascinating... |
Wrinkle_In_Time |
Mar-05-06 04:20 PM |
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Very good observation. And I also have notices some die hard capitalists |
IsItJustMe |
Mar-05-06 05:44 PM |
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Hey, thanks for the kind words! |
1932 |
Mar-06-06 08:21 AM |
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Official DU Hugo Chavez Right-Wing Falsehood Debunking Thread |
rman |
Mar-06-06 01:27 PM |
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News item: Venezuela car sales rise 41 pct in February |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-06-06 07:00 PM |
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Russia to help Venezuela put first astronaut into space |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-06-06 07:03 PM |
#81 |
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