Mythsaje
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Sat Feb-25-06 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #32 |
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This is what frustrates me. Ireland has such a history of producing great minds and great hearts, and yet the people are far too willing to kill each other. Maybe it's not "piddly-ass" stuff, but, Christ, who wins when the Orange and the Green attack each other with guns, fists, or words? No one. Except maybe the smirking Brits who will say "see, they needed us to keep the peace," when it was their interference that led to the schism in the first place.
Watching a few Brit comedies a couple years back I couldn't believe that it was acceptable to mock the Irish the way they did.
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whirlygigspin |
Feb-25-06 11:33 AM |
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There's a reason they're the "fightin' irish.' |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 11:36 AM |
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it's not "amongst themselves" when it's that segregated. |
bettyellen |
Feb-25-06 11:42 AM |
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At this point in time the issues ARE big |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 11:46 AM |
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you saddle the celts with a sterotype created by those who invaded |
bettyellen |
Feb-25-06 12:32 PM |
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The brits didn't sort anything out... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:34 PM |
#41 |
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you're promoting negative sterotypes here about the irish. |
bettyellen |
Feb-25-06 12:37 PM |
#46 |
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The brits called EVERYONE savages... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:43 PM |
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Yes England did capitalize on the fighting and distrust |
jwirr |
Feb-25-06 10:07 PM |
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Being called "savages" by imperialists is really stunning. n/t |
cantstandbush |
Feb-25-06 10:18 PM |
#133 |
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Tell that to the Bog Man |
hedgehog |
Feb-25-06 12:45 PM |
#52 |
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Sorta the same thing as we say about the Islamic sects.... n/t |
cantstandbush |
Feb-25-06 10:17 PM |
#132 |
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"Fighting Irish" ? "Piddly ass"? |
hedgehog |
Feb-25-06 12:16 PM |
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I really wish they'd stop killing each other... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:28 PM |
#35 |
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their inherant need for to foster grudges? how racist can you get? |
bettyellen |
Feb-25-06 12:34 PM |
#42 |
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Did you not see the word "seemingly?" |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:40 PM |
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you say the celts are notorious for this "sort of thing" |
bettyellen |
Feb-25-06 12:54 PM |
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Religion is a tool |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:58 PM |
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your knowledge of irish history seems to overshadow the current reality |
bettyellen |
Feb-25-06 01:03 PM |
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The 'Celts' were not only Irish ~ of course there were battles |
Catrina |
Feb-25-06 01:09 PM |
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I understand the Hunger Strike |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 01:11 PM |
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And the Irish are not only "Celts".... |
Bridget Burke |
Mar-01-06 10:17 AM |
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Not racist, but definitely prejudice. |
haruka3_2000 |
Feb-25-06 05:56 PM |
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I know it... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 08:00 PM |
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Now I know you're daft |
MADem |
Feb-26-06 03:42 PM |
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Not really... |
regnaD kciN |
Feb-25-06 12:31 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Feb-25-06 12:36 PM |
#43 |
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too bad you've never been to northern Ireland |
CountAllVotes |
Feb-25-06 11:42 AM |
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Believe me, I know... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 11:48 AM |
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Very well said! |
augie38 |
Feb-25-06 12:03 PM |
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exactly, if the OP had been there, they'd know better.... |
bettyellen |
Feb-25-06 12:58 PM |
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I'm not the OP |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 01:10 PM |
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*sigh* ~ the conflict in the North of Ireland was not about religion ~ |
Catrina |
Feb-25-06 01:20 PM |
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They were colonists? |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 01:26 PM |
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wow. so that's why you kept saying they were the same people.... |
bettyellen |
Feb-25-06 01:35 PM |
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Gotcha. |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 01:38 PM |
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if you want to know more, i'd suggest reading up on |
bettyellen |
Feb-25-06 01:56 PM |
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I never thought it was about religion... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 02:03 PM |
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the civilized people thing is a joke, when you consider the source of |
bettyellen |
Feb-25-06 02:18 PM |
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Ireland has a fascinating history |
redwitch |
Feb-25-06 02:50 PM |
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Religion is definitely part of the conflict |
muriel_volestrangler |
Feb-25-06 03:30 PM |
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Hmmm.. examples that disprove this myth |
CONN |
Feb-25-06 04:38 PM |
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"Part of", "a major factor" - I didn't say "all of " n/t |
muriel_volestrangler |
Feb-25-06 06:40 PM |
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class warfare plain and simple |
redwitch |
Feb-25-06 05:02 PM |
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Define your classes |
muriel_volestrangler |
Feb-25-06 06:47 PM |
#117 |
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the people in charge and the average smucks |
redwitch |
Feb-25-06 08:11 PM |
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Again, religion merely symbolized either loyalty or disloyalty to the King |
Catrina |
Feb-25-06 05:14 PM |
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But when James II was expelled from England |
muriel_volestrangler |
Feb-25-06 06:52 PM |
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There's been a resurgence in interest |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 08:04 PM |
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I've just returned from Ireland...where I heard Irish spoken |
mcscajun |
Mar-01-06 08:33 AM |
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Well, you just made my point. As I said, religion was not the cause of |
Catrina |
Feb-25-06 09:30 PM |
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I must differ on the state of the Irish language |
Maeve |
Feb-26-06 07:53 AM |
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Yes, you're right that the efforts to restore the language have increased |
Catrina |
Feb-26-06 04:58 PM |
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Yes, exactly! And thank you for keeping an open mind. The Irish have not |
Catrina |
Feb-25-06 03:10 PM |
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It wasn't always done with Protestants |
JNelson6563 |
Feb-25-06 06:48 PM |
#118 |
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More to "beyond the Pale" |
mcscajun |
Mar-01-06 08:12 AM |
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one source for colonialisation...a genealogical one |
bobbieinok |
Feb-25-06 09:08 PM |
#129 |
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Londonderry/Derry |
mcscajun |
Mar-01-06 08:15 AM |
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You're right |
RagingInMiami |
Feb-25-06 01:28 PM |
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Damn... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 01:33 PM |
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In Northern Ireland |
RagingInMiami |
Feb-25-06 01:41 PM |
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Sounds like a class issue to me... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 01:44 PM |
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50/50 |
sg_ |
Feb-25-06 01:46 PM |
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Is that a new requirement? |
RagingInMiami |
Feb-25-06 01:58 PM |
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AND the money.....AND the opportunities.. |
annabanana |
Feb-25-06 01:49 PM |
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The split is closer to 55-45 now |
Maeve |
Feb-25-06 01:53 PM |
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Thanks for keeping me updated |
RagingInMiami |
Feb-25-06 01:55 PM |
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I frequent some Irish political discussion boards |
Maeve |
Feb-25-06 01:58 PM |
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The west is beautiful |
RagingInMiami |
Feb-25-06 02:04 PM |
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Important |
sg_ |
Feb-25-06 02:09 PM |
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If you talk about violent crime, no question it's safe |
Maeve |
Feb-25-06 02:34 PM |
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Someday I'd like to visit... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 02:46 PM |
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you're correct |
CONN |
Feb-25-06 02:38 PM |
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the catholics poulation has grown faster, last i read, they were supposed |
bettyellen |
Feb-25-06 02:06 PM |
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I've read that too -- maybe then Diebold will handle the elections... |
LostinVA |
Feb-25-06 08:55 PM |
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Class has nothing to do with it anymore.... |
BooScout |
Feb-26-06 04:19 PM |
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read Catrina's posts here to get some understanding... |
bettyellen |
Feb-25-06 01:27 PM |
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I just did... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 01:30 PM |
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Go back to the times of Henry II. EVERYONE WAS CATHOLIC, it had |
acmavm |
Feb-25-06 02:21 PM |
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parallels with native Americans... |
CONN |
Feb-25-06 02:51 PM |
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Agreed -- this is apartheid, pure and simple |
LostinVA |
Feb-25-06 07:00 PM |
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Actually, some of their reasons are quite legit. |
smirkymonkey |
Feb-25-06 11:42 AM |
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No we don't! And I'll fight anyone of ya that says we do! |
Itchinjim |
Feb-25-06 11:44 AM |
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I once met a visitor from Ireland |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:02 PM |
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Among themselves?? |
augie38 |
Feb-25-06 11:44 AM |
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Are you kidding me? |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 11:49 AM |
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Talking about recent history... say last 500 years. |
augie38 |
Feb-25-06 12:00 PM |
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Indeed... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:03 PM |
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800 years since the invasion ... |
CountAllVotes |
Feb-25-06 12:07 PM |
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And they need to recognize that |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:08 PM |
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They are not one people! |
haruka3_2000 |
Feb-25-06 06:05 PM |
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amen |
LeftofU |
Feb-25-06 06:50 PM |
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They aren't one people |
LostinVA |
Feb-25-06 07:09 PM |
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Amen!!! |
augie38 |
Feb-25-06 12:13 PM |
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Translation... |
regnaD kciN |
Feb-25-06 12:36 PM |
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Finally, religion is brought into the discussion. Ha.! |
augie38 |
Feb-25-06 02:20 PM |
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Some of them cooperated with us Norse too. |
Hardrada |
Feb-25-06 12:09 PM |
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True enough... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:10 PM |
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`Scuse me, but maybe some education as to what English |
Warpy |
Feb-25-06 11:45 AM |
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I understand that... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 11:50 AM |
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It can be considered akin to a Nazi rally in Jerusalem |
LostinVA |
Feb-25-06 07:10 PM |
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excuse me.. |
ananda |
Feb-25-06 12:03 PM |
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Except the ones who march in orange |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:06 PM |
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This coming from a someone who resides in the USA? |
TomClash |
Feb-25-06 12:06 PM |
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I'm not criticizing... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:10 PM |
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Wow, right in the middle of Dublin |
Scairp |
Feb-25-06 05:37 PM |
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A suggestion... |
haruka3_2000 |
Feb-25-06 05:52 PM |
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Racist much? Your posts drip with racism and steroetypes |
LostinVA |
Feb-25-06 06:58 PM |
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There's a reason youre a "giant asshole" |
name not needed |
Feb-25-06 11:11 PM |
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Piddly ass reasons??? |
MADem |
Feb-26-06 03:35 PM |
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Bad decision |
sg_ |
Feb-25-06 11:44 AM |
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hi! |
CountAllVotes |
Feb-25-06 11:52 AM |
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Omg, I love that: Osama 'I'm still free, how about you'. If it isn't a |
Catrina |
Feb-25-06 12:05 PM |
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That's really what drives me nuts about it... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:07 PM |
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at least your family did not succumb and drop the "O" |
CountAllVotes |
Feb-25-06 12:31 PM |
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My family has always been proud |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:44 PM |
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Well, since I was born and grew up there, (south of the border) and have |
Catrina |
Feb-25-06 12:40 PM |
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I think Ireland should belong to the Irish |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:47 PM |
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Ah, another descendent of King Niall...! |
regnaD kciN |
Feb-25-06 12:48 PM |
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Well, from what I've heard from my ex |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:51 PM |
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The parade... |
sg_ |
Feb-25-06 12:19 PM |
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And as good as the other!!! |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:32 PM |
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To answer your question... |
regnaD kciN |
Feb-25-06 12:51 PM |
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There's deep truth in THAT statement. n/t |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 12:52 PM |
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Cheers! |
sg_ |
Feb-25-06 12:27 PM |
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thanks! |
CountAllVotes |
Feb-25-06 12:29 PM |
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Welcome to DU, sg_ .... |
hwmnbn |
Feb-25-06 11:53 AM |
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Welcome to DU... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 11:54 AM |
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Thanks. |
sg_ |
Feb-25-06 12:22 PM |
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That's good... |
Mythsaje |
Feb-25-06 01:01 PM |
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But what was the parade |
RagingInMiami |
Feb-25-06 12:40 PM |
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What was the point of the parade? More Irish Republican bashing |
CONN |
Feb-25-06 01:30 PM |
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Very selective... |
sg_ |
Feb-25-06 01:37 PM |
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Not really... |
CONN |
Feb-25-06 02:28 PM |
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I wish they would give more details on the "Love Ulster" rally |
RagingInMiami |
Feb-25-06 12:36 PM |
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here's the BBC linked story (with video) |
whirlygigspin |
Feb-25-06 01:00 PM |
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So it was a loyalist march |
RagingInMiami |
Feb-25-06 01:24 PM |
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From what I understood... |
sg_ |
Feb-25-06 01:02 PM |
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Even the Irish don't like these Klan-like marches |
CONN |
Feb-25-06 01:18 PM |
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What Waste of Life Fighting Amongst Ourselves |
stepnw1f |
Feb-25-06 01:39 PM |
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Be careful, Dubliners. The US is coming to get you. |
Malikshah |
Feb-25-06 01:53 PM |
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Here's the report from RTE in Dublin |
TomClash |
Feb-25-06 01:59 PM |
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Background info on 'Love Ulster' Campaign from Socialist Democracy |
CONN |
Feb-25-06 02:36 PM |
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i can't blame them for protesting the love ulster parade. |
xchrom |
Feb-25-06 03:32 PM |
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It was the 'chavs/townies'... |
sg_ |
Feb-26-06 04:11 PM |
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welcome to du |
xchrom |
Feb-26-06 05:03 PM |
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hmmm just local kids looking for an excuse for mayhem... |
CONN |
Feb-26-06 06:29 PM |
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Why do the Irish want to attack free speech? Irish need to get over |
Harper_is_Bush |
Feb-26-06 04:06 PM |
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Can't tell the difference between a march and a cartoon, eh? |
newfaceinhell |
Mar-01-06 11:54 AM |
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Hello from Dublin, Ireland |
Chomp |
Feb-26-06 07:43 PM |
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Heres another Dubliner member of DU |
Tripmann |
Mar-01-06 09:38 AM |
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the best analysis |
conning |
Mar-01-06 10:01 AM |
#149 |
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