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Sat Feb-04-06 08:07 PM
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| 29. It's a new provision. |
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But the text is old.
The Sec. Service police business has been around since the '60s, I think, although that may have been a reorganization and not when it was established.
The events of national significance have been designated for at least the last decade. Clinton designated some. * has, I believe, designated them with greater frequency. Each designation must be summed up in a year-end report to congress, specifying the grounds for such a designation and the steps taken as a result.
The language stipulating the police force and declaration of such events is being copied from their current locations to the Patriot Act. From time to time lawmakers decide to group like laws in like acts, simultaneously rescinding the previous (frequently identically worded) legislation elsewhere.
I bothered to look this stuff up and cut/paste the current (and long-standing) legislative language into a thread a week or two ago that was repeating some of the same fear-mongering non-truths. As for the other points, I'm not going to bother to actually check. It's the author's job to make sure s/he's not reporting inaccuracies, not mine.
Findlaw and a couple of other legislative law sites are free, public, easy to use, and your friends.
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| -Silencing dissent a growing trend (Knight Ridder) |
Wordie |
Feb-04-06 03:19 PM |
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Welcome to Amerika - Fascism in Democracy's clothing |
Angry Girl |
Feb-04-06 03:24 PM |
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Welcome to the CCCP |
Nomen Tuum |
Feb-04-06 05:33 PM |
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Need a ticket to see "our" president speak. |
faygokid |
Feb-04-06 03:24 PM |
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Let me guess, swiftboating is not an issuead because it's not about issues |
rosebud57 |
Feb-04-06 03:25 PM |
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You know, I wondered about that...seems to me there were issue ads |
Wordie |
Feb-04-06 03:28 PM |
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They Are Only "Issue Ads" If They Are Run By Democrats |
AndyTiedye |
Feb-04-06 11:46 PM |
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Self censorship? In their wildest dreams, only |
Warpy |
Feb-04-06 03:26 PM |
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It's a crime...to "disrupt" an event guarded by the Secret Service |
tridim |
Feb-04-06 03:26 PM |
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I never hear anything about this one in the news--it is always about |
rodeodance |
Feb-04-06 04:09 PM |
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I read someplace that Specter proposed that as a NEW provision of the PA. |
Wordie |
Feb-04-06 08:05 PM |
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Hmmm |
Hope springs eternal |
Feb-04-06 08:40 PM |
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Thank you Knight-Ridder for your very existence |
Lefty48197 |
Feb-04-06 03:26 PM |
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no thank you to knight ridder for easing the argument by blaming both |
bullimiami |
Feb-04-06 03:53 PM |
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A dictatorship is all fine and good, |
bluestateguy |
Feb-04-06 03:27 PM |
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hmm.... |
ClayZ |
Feb-04-06 03:29 PM |
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They write as if this stifling of dissent was occuring on both sides. |
Crunchy Frog |
Feb-04-06 04:06 PM |
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You're absolutely right. |
Lindacooks |
Feb-04-06 08:10 PM |
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My thought exactly |
alarimer |
Feb-05-06 09:38 AM |
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".Nor is it limited to one political party," |
rodeodance |
Feb-04-06 04:15 PM |
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...but the article points out this is a "Growing Trend"... |
Wordie |
Feb-04-06 04:27 PM |
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THEY NEVER print the WHOLE truth! |
WinkyDink |
Feb-04-06 04:51 PM |
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God D-mn |
lordwhorfin |
Feb-04-06 06:50 PM |
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We are still straightening out that Casey myth 13 years later |
bluestateguy |
Feb-04-06 08:34 PM |
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Knight Ridder goes for that wonderful faux "balance" |
high density |
Feb-04-06 09:34 PM |
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is it just me, or am i right when i think that only republicans silence |
leQ |
Feb-04-06 04:17 PM |
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Chicago? Mayor Daley? How soon they forget. NT |
mikehiggins |
Feb-04-06 07:42 PM |
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Another: Southern Dems v. Civil Rights movement. (nt) |
Voltaire99 |
Feb-05-06 05:10 AM |
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I want a t-shirt that sez simply |
Prisoner_Number_Six |
Feb-04-06 04:17 PM |
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How about one with the red circle and a "Not Allowed" red line |
WinkyDink |
Feb-04-06 04:52 PM |
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My email address is dissenter@, screw them all. |
vickiss |
Feb-04-06 05:24 PM |
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Silencing dissent AGAINST REPUBLICANS a growing trend. |
eppur_se_muova |
Feb-04-06 04:19 PM |
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"other vaguely defined national events..." such as when bush declares |
LynnTheDem |
Feb-04-06 05:13 PM |
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Apparently that is a NEW Patriot Act provision, now being considered! nt |
Wordie |
Feb-04-06 06:27 PM |
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It's a new provision. |
igil |
Feb-04-06 08:07 PM |
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The ACLU mentions that argument, but says checks and balances insufficient |
Wordie |
Feb-04-06 08:52 PM |
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Seems like the cartoon aversion of our Muslim friends |
BeyondGeography |
Feb-04-06 05:48 PM |
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The Bush administration can not silence |
democrank |
Feb-04-06 07:28 PM |
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Just what I was thinking... |
AbbyR |
Feb-05-06 08:50 AM |
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War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Dissent is Un-American. |
stickdog |
Feb-05-06 12:03 AM |
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Democrats must make protecting Dissent a major campaign promise |
iconoclastNYC |
Feb-05-06 03:14 AM |
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Just think of where we would be if our president was not a |
SoCalDem |
Feb-05-06 05:21 AM |
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This article should really mention the new detention centers... |
pinniped |
Feb-05-06 05:28 AM |
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Broadcast of issue ads w/in 60 days of elections is prohibited? |
eomer |
Feb-05-06 07:04 AM |
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You know, that does favor the incumbent, doesn't it? Good point, eomer. |
Wordie |
Feb-05-06 09:24 AM |
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I'm in; |
greiner3 |
Feb-05-06 07:27 AM |
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Silencing dissent a growing trend |
leftchick |
Feb-05-06 08:29 AM |
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Isn't this something only republicans have done: |
Cobalt Violet |
Feb-05-06 08:29 AM |
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Well, gee, why didn't this guy get hauled out for HIS tee shirt, then? |
MADem |
Feb-05-06 08:29 AM |
#45 |