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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 03:47 AM
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33. I've been monitoring this closely
and overall, I had convinced myself that this was really not different than what has been happening in Asia.

That said, I ran across a number of articles like this one:

Bird flu transmission to humans may be frequent: study

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2006-01/10/con...

Great news, huh!?

No, it isn't. It's very, very bad news and the WHO better stop fucking around and do massive blood testing for this virus like now. I can't believe they haven't done it yet. They keep touting how they're on top of things and yadda, yadda, yadda. Each and every time a person gets infected with this virus, especially if they have the normal winter variant of the flu as millions do right now, there is a possibility that these two flues can get together and swap RNA packets. The more cases, diagnosed or not, the more chance for the necessary antigenic shift.

I don't know how long they've had the ability to screen this virus through blood testing but they should have been doing massive screening in Vietnam, Laos, hell, even China. Day late and a dollar short, guys.

If they've blown this part of their "worldwide screening", I wonder how much we can really trust them to get the rest of it right?

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  -More Human Bird Flu Cases Found In Turkey ECH1969  Jan-08-06 11:14 AM   #0 
  - Yeah, for us here  Surya Gayatri   Jan-08-06 11:22 AM   #1 
  - So far the cluster is in one family who live close to poultry  DoYouEverWonder   Jan-08-06 11:34 AM   #2 
  - Exactly. Looks like bird to human transmission.  tatertop   Jan-08-06 01:08 PM   #3 
  - Problem is, it hasn't been conclusively proven in Turkey yet...  Maddy McCall   Jan-08-06 01:19 PM   #5 
     - Nowhere near 50 has been confirmed...  SaveElmer   Jan-08-06 03:49 PM   #11 
  - Actually, there are 50 people believed to be infected.  Maddy McCall   Jan-08-06 01:16 PM   #4 
     - Too many ifs and maybes in all these bird flu statements  DoYouEverWonder   Jan-08-06 01:20 PM   #6 
        - H5N1 hasn't been around for thousands of years.  Maddy McCall   Jan-08-06 01:24 PM   #7 
        - Depends on how you define 'lethal' but I would say yes.  DoYouEverWonder   Jan-08-06 02:19 PM   #10 
           - Thanks for that reference.  Maddy McCall   Jan-09-06 09:07 AM   #17 
              - Among birds, yes it is spreading and for the poultry industry  DoYouEverWonder   Jan-09-06 12:06 PM   #19 
        - Avian flues of various types have been around for who knows how long  tavalon   Jan-10-06 03:50 AM   #34 
           - Since it wasn't until the early/mid 1800's  DoYouEverWonder   Jan-10-06 05:40 AM   #36 
              - Interesting  tavalon   Jan-10-06 07:31 AM   #37 
                 - exactly this  VirginiaDem   Jan-10-06 07:49 AM   #38 
                    - Entirely different ways is correct  tavalon   Jan-10-06 08:16 AM   #40 
                       - This is all based on the assumption that virus spreads  VirginiaDem   Jan-10-06 08:23 AM   #41 
                          - Yep  tavalon   Jan-10-06 08:26 AM   #43 
  - Human Bird Flu Cases Found In Turkey  IChing   Jan-08-06 01:27 PM   #8 
  - Just lots of people playing with chicken heads.  bahrbearian   Jan-08-06 01:49 PM   #9 
  - I think people are being a bit passe with this when its extremely  lovuian   Jan-08-06 04:03 PM   #12 
  - If that were true...  SaveElmer   Jan-08-06 04:12 PM   #13 
  - I'll play devils advocate... Who came in on insistence of Europe  lovuian   Jan-09-06 12:17 PM   #21 
     - Actually, no  tavalon   Jan-10-06 03:55 AM   #35 
        - Actually, no they haven't. China had something going on that caused....  Media_Lies_Daily   Jan-10-06 08:54 AM   #47 
  - So far it's just Bird to Human transmission  Moochy   Jan-08-06 04:14 PM   #14 
  - Waiting for the morbidity/mortality drop  Pigwidgeon   Jan-09-06 01:15 AM   #15 
  - I read..  SaveElmer   Jan-09-06 10:59 AM   #18 
  - "Only" 4-8% mortality would be disastrous today in the US.  megatherium   Jan-09-06 12:09 PM   #20 
     - Do you mean 4-8% of the population or of the infected?  VirginiaDem   Jan-10-06 07:53 AM   #39 
        - You seem to be ignoring the fact that here in the U. S......  Media_Lies_Daily   Jan-10-06 08:27 AM   #44 
        - See this new evidence...  SaveElmer   Jan-10-06 10:22 AM   #50 
        - Not sure, but I think it's 4-8% of the infected.  megatherium   Jan-10-06 04:20 PM   #51 
  - Five More Infected With Bird Flu in Turkey  shugah   Jan-09-06 08:57 AM   #16 
  - The 1918 flu had a mortality of, IIRC 2%.  Odin2005   Jan-09-06 01:34 PM   #22 
  - Turkey Now Has 15 Human Cases of Bird Flu (next stop Europe)  rodeodance   Jan-09-06 03:22 PM   #23 
  - Oh God...  YOY   Jan-09-06 03:22 PM   #24 
  - But do they live with poultry?  Fredda Weinberg   Jan-09-06 03:22 PM   #25 
     - Yes...  YOY   Jan-09-06 03:22 PM   #26 
        - Keeping them in my thoughts...  GoddessOfGuinness   Jan-09-06 03:22 PM   #27 
           - I've Emailed my wife and told her to call them as soon as possible  YOY   Jan-09-06 03:22 PM   #28 
              - They can protect themselves  Fredda Weinberg   Jan-09-06 03:22 PM   #29 
                 - Also, be careful when handling the animal droppings, i.e., wouldn't  gkhouston   Jan-09-06 04:19 PM   #31 
  - End of backyard flocks is coming. Link problem  uppityperson   Jan-09-06 03:22 PM   #30 
  - Dupe  MetaTrope   Jan-09-06 07:10 PM   # 
  - An apocalyptic pandemic courtesy of the American Turkish Business Council?  MetaTrope   Jan-09-06 07:10 PM   #32 
  - Why would you think that?  tavalon   Jan-10-06 08:27 AM   #45 
     - Just coincidence  MetaTrope   Jan-10-06 10:01 AM   #48 
  - I've been monitoring this closely  tavalon   Jan-10-06 03:47 AM   #33 
  - Certainly not bad news...  SaveElmer   Jan-10-06 10:02 AM   #49 
  - I found an interesting site tonight  tavalon   Jan-10-06 08:24 AM   #42 
  - Stay away from those chickens!  MadisonProgressive   Jan-10-06 08:33 AM   #46 
 

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