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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 06:56 AM
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15. Every case is different
I wouldn't force a teenager who was actually raped to testify. I have seen up close and personal such situations and I would never say such a flippant, ignorant remark:

So, I would say that this mother should get with the program. Her son is no different from any other rape victim-if they can testify, why shouldn't he?

His case, the sex was consensual, in cases where it was not, a statement such as yours would be inexcusable, even with an eye to the depths of ignorace it reveals.


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  -Mother of alleged victim in teacher sex case does not want trial Thom Little  Dec-11-05 09:40 PM   #0 
  - If it was my son I wouldn't want the trial either. I would just  GrumpyGreg   Dec-11-05 09:46 PM   #1 
  - It isnt up to you or the boy's folks. The DA makes the decison to go to  Conservativesux   Dec-11-05 10:18 PM   #2 
     - To hell with the DA  architect359   Dec-11-05 10:33 PM   #4 
     - They have to respond to a supeona, so what the DA says, still goes.  Conservativesux   Dec-11-05 10:44 PM   #5 
        - So we destroy the womans life for this?  Porcupine   Dec-12-05 01:48 AM   #7 
        - Just curious...  joeunderdog   Dec-12-05 06:09 AM   #11 
        - Any Man who had done the same would have his life destroyed...  Conservativesux   Dec-12-05 01:21 PM   #33 
        - Yea, how can we destroy her life for this? She is so pretty,  lizzy   Dec-12-05 06:29 PM   #43 
        - Well, there is a question of degree...  pagandem4justice   Dec-12-05 11:40 PM   #48 
        - Yeah, I'm sure sure she had to "coerce" him  Tyrone Slothrop   Dec-13-05 12:13 PM   #78 
        - Until the law is changed and even then...  LiberalFighter   Dec-13-05 09:32 AM   #73 
        - All these women???  Andromeda   Dec-13-05 01:50 AM   #54 
           - Really  michaelwb   Dec-13-05 08:29 AM   #68 
     - "Victims rights" means only when the victim is vindictive?  patcox2   Dec-12-05 08:39 AM   #23 
  - I don't blame her  proud2Blib   Dec-11-05 10:19 PM   #3 
  - I imagine not many rape victims look forward to testifying.  lizzy   Dec-11-05 11:12 PM   #6 
     - Her son wasn't a rape victim.  TheWraith   Dec-12-05 03:37 AM   #9 
     - Some of the victims of molestation by Catholics priests....  Bridget Burke   Dec-12-05 06:15 AM   #12 
     - Sorry, but according to the statutes of the law, it *is* rape.  WildClarySage   Dec-12-05 06:50 AM   #13 
     - Whether the law is capable of recognizing it or not, a minor is capable  TheWraith   Dec-12-05 01:27 PM   #34 
        - So, if pedophile gives candy to a six year old, and convinces  lizzy   Dec-12-05 06:27 PM   #42 
        - Strawman much?  TheWraith   Dec-13-05 02:22 AM   #57 
        - The law acknowledges that if the boy-child kills somebody  Porcupine   Dec-12-05 10:47 PM   #45 
        - Well, if he is an adult, why not give him a driving license and  lizzy   Dec-12-05 11:01 PM   #47 
        - But he can still be sent to prison for life? How fair is that?  Porcupine   Dec-12-05 11:55 PM   #51 
        - What to you have to say about giving 14 year olds the vote?  Baconfoot   Dec-13-05 02:03 AM   #56 
        - and yet when he kills  architect359   Dec-13-05 12:09 AM   #52 
        - But he can not be executed for the murder.  lizzy   Dec-13-05 11:47 AM   #75 
        - can't equate sex w/ mechanical devices, civic duties, or drugs  confludemocrat   Dec-13-05 03:01 PM   #85 
        - Some kids commit crimes under cover of law  LiberalFighter   Dec-13-05 09:39 AM   #74 
        - it's actually not a reality of life that such a person can give consent  Baconfoot   Dec-13-05 02:00 AM   #55 
        - I hear plenty of crappy music played by people in their 40s and 50s, too.  TheWraith   Dec-13-05 02:31 AM   #58 
        - Well, "the level of informedness  shimmergal   Dec-13-05 04:12 AM   #66 
        - They are calling it what it is  jbnow   Dec-13-05 03:16 AM   #62 
     - Statutory rape.  lizzy   Dec-12-05 06:25 PM   #41 
     - See my post #57 for why you need to apologize. NT.  TheWraith   Dec-13-05 02:32 AM   #59 
     - No more than my brother was. Very similiar situations.  Porcupine   Dec-12-05 10:55 PM   #46 
     - You know, I was thinking  jbnow   Dec-13-05 03:22 AM   #63 
     - He is a rape victim  pagandem4justice   Dec-12-05 11:45 PM   #49 
     - There's scant evidence that he was coerced into anything.  TheWraith   Dec-13-05 02:38 AM   #60 
        - Exactly.  AtTheEndOfTheDay   Dec-13-05 12:02 PM   #76 
     - Agreed  arewenotdemo   Dec-13-05 01:41 AM   #53 
     - Every case is different  JNelson6563   Dec-12-05 06:56 AM   #15 
        - I wouldn't force ANY rape victim to testify  lwfern   Dec-12-05 07:58 AM   #19 
  - Can't children testify via videotape?  gordonlamb   Dec-12-05 03:37 AM   #8 
  - Does that make it acceptable?  lwfern   Dec-12-05 09:53 AM   #30 
  - i think this is a very unusual case, and i think the parents know what's  truthisfreedom   Dec-12-05 05:50 AM   #10 
  - Are you seriously suggesting that the appearance of the rapist  WildClarySage   Dec-12-05 06:52 AM   #14 
  - Statutory rape is not the same as forcible rape  slackmaster   Dec-12-05 07:46 AM   #16 
     - Yeah and five year olds have been convinced that having sex  WildClarySage   Dec-12-05 07:51 AM   #17 
     - The law tries to make black or white something that has shades of gray  slackmaster   Dec-12-05 07:56 AM   #18 
     - My personal experience tells me otherwise,  WildClarySage   Dec-12-05 08:09 AM   #20 
     - well said WildClarySage  Evergreen Emerald   Dec-12-05 08:32 AM   #21 
     - You Don't Know the Details of This Case  Crisco   Dec-12-05 09:46 AM   #29 
     - And my personal experience tells me the opposite  Robb   Dec-12-05 08:35 AM   #22 
     - No, but saying that it's not rape since the perpetrator is attractive  WildClarySage   Dec-12-05 08:51 AM   #24 
        - Which I don't see above  Robb   Dec-12-05 08:58 AM   #25 
        - "other than in the posting of her picture"  WildClarySage   Dec-12-05 09:11 AM   #27 
        - 14 year old boy hot blond teacher.  Sin   Dec-12-05 09:19 AM   #28 
     - I take it you became immune to that on your 18th birthday  slackmaster   Dec-12-05 11:15 AM   #31 
     - Having worked with some abused kids  jbnow   Dec-13-05 03:27 AM   #64 
        - Absolutely agree - No teacher should ever get involved with a student  slackmaster   Dec-13-05 01:04 PM   #80 
     - a 15 year old is very different from a 5 year old  400Years   Dec-12-05 09:09 AM   #26 
     - Why should she be considered psychologically disturbed?  confludemocrat   Dec-13-05 03:10 PM   #86 
  - Okay fine. Let's flip the script.  kitkatrose   Dec-12-05 12:29 PM   #32 
  - Obviously not the same situation at all  slackmaster   Dec-12-05 01:31 PM   #35 
  - Oh, obviously.  kitkatrose   Dec-12-05 02:18 PM   #36 
  - Head exploding.  michaelwb   Dec-12-05 02:43 PM   #38 
     - Oh, I never even thought of that one.  kitkatrose   Dec-12-05 05:16 PM   #40 
     - Ha!  michaelwb   Dec-13-05 09:03 AM   #71 
     - Dear Head Exploding,  DarbyUSMC   Dec-13-05 03:42 PM   #87 
  - Yet the age of consent  jbnow   Dec-13-05 03:38 AM   #65 
  - Well, #1 Reason . .  lolly   Dec-12-05 02:21 PM   #37 
     - So pregnancy makes the difference  kitkatrose   Dec-12-05 05:15 PM   #39 
     - Pregnancy? How about she gives the boy an STD like AIDS??..  Conservativesux   Dec-13-05 04:59 AM   #67 
     - Uh, I'm on your side here.  kitkatrose   Dec-13-05 08:53 AM   #69 
     - Read the post  lolly   Dec-13-05 07:12 PM   #92 
     - In any rape case, if someone gets pregnant, that opens up  lizzy   Dec-12-05 06:31 PM   #44 
  - Yes, kids that age think about sex  pagandem4justice   Dec-12-05 11:54 PM   #50 
     - I don't think that anyone is arguing that a young man can't be raped.  TheWraith   Dec-13-05 02:53 AM   #61 
        - I agree with what you're saying but  architect359   Dec-13-05 09:25 AM   #72 
        - The law sees a difference. Statutory rape and forcible rape.  lizzy   Dec-13-05 12:09 PM   #77 
  - Victim?  kamtsa   Dec-13-05 09:00 AM   #70 
  - It's obvious many here have never been 15 year old boys.  reprobate   Dec-13-05 12:56 PM   #79 
  - Just cause the kid wants it, doesn't mean it should be done.  lizzy   Dec-13-05 01:53 PM   #82 
     - If you expect a 15 year old boy to turn down sex with an attractive woman,  reprobate   Dec-13-05 06:36 PM   #89 
        - I would no expect him to turn down the sex. But I would also not expect  lizzy   Dec-13-05 06:40 PM   #90 
  - This is ridiculous.  High Plains   Dec-13-05 01:52 PM   #81 
  - Maybe we should make the age of consent to zero. Just to make  lizzy   Dec-13-05 01:55 PM   #83 
     - Or maybe we could make it 35 just to make you happy.  High Plains   Dec-13-05 02:06 PM   #84 
  - It takes a special teacher to be willing to tutor the boy .....  olddad56   Dec-13-05 03:51 PM   #88 
  - Well, she should be just as happy to tutor other inmates,  lizzy   Dec-13-05 06:41 PM   #91 
  - And check out this little (double standard) tune from Garth Brooks...  Danieljay   Dec-13-05 07:59 PM   #93 
  - A Different Perspective  666   Dec-13-05 08:45 PM   #94 

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