Rich Hunt
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Thu Dec-08-05 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #8 |
| 34. who are you calling 'you'? |
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I love this assumption that no one who reads this board is Catholic or was born Catholic.
It's the old 'between you and me' trick, the 'just pretend they're not their trick'.
We Irish know this well. It's the old Anglo-Saxon 'let's pretend they don't exist' game.
There is fair and reasoned criticism of a church's doctrine....and then there is seizing the opportunity to express one's contempt for the Catholics that is endemic to certain cultures.
Catholics have always formed a significant part of the urban Democratic base. Always. Some people - some people who used to be very powerful but who are quite violently bitter about their decline - are well aware of this and always have been. The official church position on issues such as poverty, labor rights and war is at odds with their nasty patrician anti-Democratic agenda. We know this history - others either don't know it out of irresponsibility, or pretend they don't know it out of treachery.
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| -Catholic bishops equate health care to a 'moral right' |
Thom Little |
Dec-07-05 11:54 PM |
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It sounds like Christ's teachings to take care of the poor |
Erika |
Dec-08-05 12:04 AM |
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we haven't heard too much from the fundies lately |
Rich Hunt |
Dec-08-05 02:27 PM |
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One reason that this Catholic and his lovely wife... |
MarianJack |
Dec-08-05 11:42 PM |
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UH OH! The fundies are gonna start hating the Catholics again! |
napi21 |
Dec-08-05 12:07 AM |
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Yeah, the Catholics are saying health care is a moral issue |
Erika |
Dec-08-05 12:14 AM |
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Actually, it's not only the Catholics that are saying that. |
napi21 |
Dec-08-05 12:17 AM |
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Yes, Dean is a doctor who cares |
Erika |
Dec-08-05 12:23 AM |
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Don't get me wrong, I love Howard, but |
ashling |
Dec-09-05 02:12 AM |
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Does this apply to women's health issues too? |
Nomen Tuum |
Dec-08-05 07:08 AM |
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Of course not |
MountainLaurel |
Dec-08-05 08:42 AM |
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I don't agree with the Church's policies on reproductive issues... |
Bridget Burke |
Dec-08-05 08:59 AM |
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Here's one example |
MountainLaurel |
Dec-08-05 02:16 PM |
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Catholics speak out against the death penalty too |
Lefty48197 |
Dec-09-05 05:53 PM |
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Start hating us AGAIN? |
MarianJack |
Dec-08-05 11:43 PM |
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catholic bishops sold their right to a moral |
xchrom |
Dec-08-05 05:09 AM |
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No, they didn't. |
Bridget Burke |
Dec-08-05 07:09 AM |
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look -- as long as they play persecute the gay folk game |
xchrom |
Dec-08-05 08:50 AM |
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Are the recent issues you mentioned why you hate the Church? |
Bridget Burke |
Dec-08-05 09:00 AM |
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lol -- you're funny. |
xchrom |
Dec-08-05 10:03 AM |
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No form of hatred is funny. |
Bridget Burke |
Dec-08-05 01:31 PM |
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you should know. |
xchrom |
Dec-08-05 01:41 PM |
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So, you are as brilliant as you are charming. |
Bridget Burke |
Dec-08-05 01:49 PM |
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lol -- i volunteer and donate to |
xchrom |
Dec-08-05 05:48 PM |
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Because someone dislikes the church that makes them hateful? |
sarcasmo |
Dec-09-05 06:00 PM |
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two things |
Rich Hunt |
Dec-08-05 03:07 PM |
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none of your business. |
xchrom |
Dec-08-05 05:59 PM |
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Name removed |
Dec-09-05 10:12 AM |
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lol -- dude, you are wack. |
xchrom |
Dec-09-05 12:04 PM |
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yeah, well go ahead |
Rich Hunt |
Dec-09-05 01:12 PM |
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right, that's why i've been a liberal activist for so long |
xchrom |
Dec-09-05 02:38 PM |
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For shame! Bridget Burke is not a homophobe |
LostinVA |
Dec-08-05 03:18 PM |
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Thank you. |
Bridget Burke |
Dec-08-05 03:29 PM |
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if you actively support an organization |
xchrom |
Dec-08-05 06:01 PM |
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U.S. armed forces are a wee bit homophobic, no? |
shrike |
Dec-09-05 09:37 AM |
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up to you -- it's your life. |
xchrom |
Dec-09-05 11:59 AM |
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But the Church does, I guess |
shrike |
Dec-09-05 01:01 PM |
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what ever. |
xchrom |
Dec-09-05 02:39 PM |
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Guess sarcasm is lost on some people |
shrike |
Dec-09-05 03:53 PM |
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lol |
xchrom |
Dec-09-05 05:38 PM |
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You spend an entire thread talking about the Catholic church |
shrike |
Dec-10-05 10:22 AM |
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plus, I'm an American |
Lefty48197 |
Dec-09-05 05:57 PM |
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Totally right. |
closeupready |
Dec-08-05 09:20 AM |
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thank you. |
xchrom |
Dec-08-05 10:05 AM |
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No all Bishops are anti-gay |
LostinVA |
Dec-08-05 09:40 AM |
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they have to support the hierarchy. |
xchrom |
Dec-08-05 10:04 AM |
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No, they are not all anti-gay |
LostinVA |
Dec-08-05 03:21 PM |
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then let them resign! |
xchrom |
Dec-08-05 05:57 PM |
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we're not all obedient... |
cap |
Dec-09-05 08:48 AM |
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please remember a lot of the bluest and most liberal states |
cap |
Dec-09-05 08:50 AM |
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I have to say, I don't agree with much of what |
adigal |
Dec-09-05 10:41 AM |
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catholic bishops allowed priests to continuously sodomize young BOYS |
saigon68 |
Dec-08-05 03:23 PM |
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That's why they lost me |
proud2Blib |
Dec-08-05 05:23 PM |
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Yeah not all of them ... |
Che_Nuevara |
Dec-08-05 05:47 PM |
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Yes. I know of one |
saigon68 |
Dec-09-05 02:59 AM |
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so you're saying they have a pro-gay agenda |
Lefty48197 |
Dec-09-05 05:59 PM |
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sweet. (n/t) |
area51 |
Dec-08-05 05:42 AM |
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The Catholics--sometimes you love'em sometimes you hate'em |
bklyncowgirl |
Dec-08-05 05:59 AM |
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who are you calling 'you'? |
Rich Hunt |
Dec-08-05 03:11 PM |
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That was a generic you and I was speaking for myself. |
bklyncowgirl |
Dec-08-05 08:44 PM |
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too late |
mmonk |
Dec-08-05 07:10 AM |
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Even a broken clock is right twice a day, no? n/t |
AzDar |
Dec-08-05 07:25 AM |
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Signs of division are good. |
Jersey Ginny |
Dec-08-05 08:53 AM |
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The Bishops are right on about this issue. |
rodeodance |
Dec-08-05 09:23 AM |
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Gee, didn't they get the memo? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-08-05 09:28 AM |
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Actually, talk to a certian segment of Catholics and it is not sarcasm |
CatholicEdHead |
Dec-08-05 07:42 PM |
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Now, THAT'S the Church I grew up with! |
LostinVA |
Dec-08-05 09:38 AM |
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Communists or true Christian values??? |
Stockholm |
Dec-08-05 09:44 AM |
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Where Catholics and Fundies part ways... |
0rganism |
Dec-08-05 02:37 PM |
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I hope they mean it for their teachers. |
knitter4democracy |
Dec-08-05 05:20 PM |
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Even the conservative Bush Jesus freaks should agree with this. It |
VegasWolf |
Dec-08-05 05:24 PM |
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godless commies! bleeding heart secular humanists! |
NuttyFluffers |
Dec-08-05 06:55 PM |
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:::clap, clap, clap::: |
Wordie |
Dec-08-05 07:02 PM |
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He can bitch all he wants, but I would bet he |
DeadManInc |
Dec-08-05 07:10 PM |
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There was something similar before the election |
jamesinca |
Dec-08-05 07:30 PM |
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The catholic church does not practice its 'preach' |
MichiganVote |
Dec-09-05 07:37 AM |
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You're speaking about a minority in the Church. |
Bridget Burke |
Dec-09-05 08:36 AM |
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That's a pointless excuse and you know it. If an entire body of Bishops |
MichiganVote |
Dec-09-05 10:18 AM |
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So--parents still keep molestation hushed up? |
Bridget Burke |
Dec-09-05 10:28 AM |
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Cover up's work for those who have a vested interest |
MichiganVote |
Dec-09-05 01:09 PM |
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The Catholic church has made mistakes in the past |
jamesinca |
Dec-09-05 10:16 AM |
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Molestation is not a "mistake" and neither is covering it up. |
MichiganVote |
Dec-09-05 10:24 AM |
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Finally, the Catholic church says something I can get behind. nt |
drhilarius |
Dec-09-05 03:12 AM |
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They might know that Roe is toast with Alito +1 |
DaveColorado |
Dec-09-05 05:19 AM |
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Between the sex abuse scandals and the Church's support for *... |
AX10 |
Dec-09-05 08:52 AM |
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We Catholics cannot figure out when we vote |
adigal |
Dec-09-05 10:37 AM |
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Rather ironic and a bit humorous - |
lynne |
Dec-09-05 03:50 PM |
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Keep voting for the so called moral Repuke party and watch how |
sarcasmo |
Dec-09-05 05:59 PM |
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