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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 03:11 PM
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34. who are you calling 'you'?

I love this assumption that no one who reads this board is Catholic or was born Catholic.

It's the old 'between you and me' trick, the 'just pretend they're not their trick'.

We Irish know this well. It's the old Anglo-Saxon 'let's pretend they don't exist' game.

There is fair and reasoned criticism of a church's doctrine....and then there is seizing the opportunity to express one's contempt for the Catholics that is endemic to certain cultures.

Catholics have always formed a significant part of the urban Democratic base. Always. Some people - some people who used to be very powerful but who are quite violently bitter about their decline - are well aware of this and always have been. The official church position on issues such as poverty, labor rights and war is at odds with their nasty patrician anti-Democratic agenda. We know this history - others either don't know it out of irresponsibility, or pretend they don't know it out of treachery.
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  -Catholic bishops equate health care to a 'moral right' Thom Little  Dec-07-05 11:54 PM   #0 
  - It sounds like Christ's teachings to take care of the poor  Erika   Dec-08-05 12:04 AM   #1 
  - we haven't heard too much from the fundies lately  Rich Hunt   Dec-08-05 02:27 PM   #31 
     - One reason that this Catholic and his lovely wife...  MarianJack   Dec-08-05 11:42 PM   #53 
  - UH OH! The fundies are gonna start hating the Catholics again!  napi21   Dec-08-05 12:07 AM   #2 
  - Yeah, the Catholics are saying health care is a moral issue  Erika   Dec-08-05 12:14 AM   #3 
  - Actually, it's not only the Catholics that are saying that.  napi21   Dec-08-05 12:17 AM   #4 
  - Yes, Dean is a doctor who cares  Erika   Dec-08-05 12:23 AM   #5 
  - Don't get me wrong, I love Howard, but  ashling   Dec-09-05 02:12 AM   #55 
  - Does this apply to women's health issues too?  Nomen Tuum   Dec-08-05 07:08 AM   #9 
     - Of course not  MountainLaurel   Dec-08-05 08:42 AM   #13 
     - I don't agree with the Church's policies on reproductive issues...  Bridget Burke   Dec-08-05 08:59 AM   #16 
     - Here's one example  MountainLaurel   Dec-08-05 02:16 PM   #30 
     - Catholics speak out against the death penalty too  Lefty48197   Dec-09-05 05:53 PM   #82 
  - Start hating us AGAIN?  MarianJack   Dec-08-05 11:43 PM   #54 
  - catholic bishops sold their right to a moral  xchrom   Dec-08-05 05:09 AM   #6 
  - No, they didn't.  Bridget Burke   Dec-08-05 07:09 AM   #10 
  - look -- as long as they play persecute the gay folk game  xchrom   Dec-08-05 08:50 AM   #14 
     - Are the recent issues you mentioned why you hate the Church?  Bridget Burke   Dec-08-05 09:00 AM   #17 
     - lol -- you're funny.  xchrom   Dec-08-05 10:03 AM   #24 
        - No form of hatred is funny.  Bridget Burke   Dec-08-05 01:31 PM   #27 
        - you should know.  xchrom   Dec-08-05 01:41 PM   #28 
        - So, you are as brilliant as you are charming.  Bridget Burke   Dec-08-05 01:49 PM   #29 
           - lol -- i volunteer and donate to  xchrom   Dec-08-05 05:48 PM   #43 
        - Because someone dislikes the church that makes them hateful?  sarcasmo   Dec-09-05 06:00 PM   #86 
        - two things  Rich Hunt   Dec-08-05 03:07 PM   #33 
        - none of your business.  xchrom   Dec-08-05 05:59 PM   #45 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-09-05 10:12 AM   #65 
              - lol -- dude, you are wack.  xchrom   Dec-09-05 12:04 PM   #73 
                 - yeah, well go ahead  Rich Hunt   Dec-09-05 01:12 PM   #76 
                    - right, that's why i've been a liberal activist for so long  xchrom   Dec-09-05 02:38 PM   #77 
        - For shame! Bridget Burke is not a homophobe  LostinVA   Dec-08-05 03:18 PM   #35 
           - Thank you.  Bridget Burke   Dec-08-05 03:29 PM   #38 
           - if you actively support an organization  xchrom   Dec-08-05 06:01 PM   #46 
              - U.S. armed forces are a wee bit homophobic, no?  shrike   Dec-09-05 09:37 AM   #64 
                 - up to you -- it's your life.  xchrom   Dec-09-05 11:59 AM   #72 
                 - But the Church does, I guess  shrike   Dec-09-05 01:01 PM   #74 
                    - what ever.  xchrom   Dec-09-05 02:39 PM   #78 
                       - Guess sarcasm is lost on some people  shrike   Dec-09-05 03:53 PM   #80 
                          - lol  xchrom   Dec-09-05 05:38 PM   #81 
                             - You spend an entire thread talking about the Catholic church  shrike   Dec-10-05 10:22 AM   #87 
                 - plus, I'm an American  Lefty48197   Dec-09-05 05:57 PM   #83 
     - Totally right.  closeupready   Dec-08-05 09:20 AM   #18 
     - thank you.  xchrom   Dec-08-05 10:05 AM   #26 
     - No all Bishops are anti-gay  LostinVA   Dec-08-05 09:40 AM   #22 
     - they have to support the hierarchy.  xchrom   Dec-08-05 10:04 AM   #25 
        - No, they are not all anti-gay  LostinVA   Dec-08-05 03:21 PM   #36 
        - then let them resign!  xchrom   Dec-08-05 05:57 PM   #44 
        - we're not all obedient...  cap   Dec-09-05 08:48 AM   #61 
           - please remember a lot of the bluest and most liberal states  cap   Dec-09-05 08:50 AM   #62 
     - I have to say, I don't agree with much of what  adigal   Dec-09-05 10:41 AM   #71 
  - catholic bishops allowed priests to continuously sodomize young BOYS  saigon68   Dec-08-05 03:23 PM   #37 
     - That's why they lost me  proud2Blib   Dec-08-05 05:23 PM   #40 
     - Yeah not all of them ...  Che_Nuevara   Dec-08-05 05:47 PM   #42 
     - Yes. I know of one  saigon68   Dec-09-05 02:59 AM   #56 
     - so you're saying they have a pro-gay agenda  Lefty48197   Dec-09-05 05:59 PM   #85 
  - sweet. (n/t)  area51   Dec-08-05 05:42 AM   #7 
  - The Catholics--sometimes you love'em sometimes you hate'em  bklyncowgirl   Dec-08-05 05:59 AM   #8 
  - who are you calling 'you'?  Rich Hunt   Dec-08-05 03:11 PM   #34 
     - That was a generic you and I was speaking for myself.  bklyncowgirl   Dec-08-05 08:44 PM   #52 
  - too late  mmonk   Dec-08-05 07:10 AM   #11 
  - Even a broken clock is right twice a day, no? n/t  AzDar   Dec-08-05 07:25 AM   #12 
  - Signs of division are good.  Jersey Ginny   Dec-08-05 08:53 AM   #15 
  - The Bishops are right on about this issue.  rodeodance   Dec-08-05 09:23 AM   #19 
  - Gee, didn't they get the memo?  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Dec-08-05 09:28 AM   #20 
  - Actually, talk to a certian segment of Catholics and it is not sarcasm  CatholicEdHead   Dec-08-05 07:42 PM   #51 
  - Now, THAT'S the Church I grew up with!  LostinVA   Dec-08-05 09:38 AM   #21 
  - Communists or true Christian values???  Stockholm   Dec-08-05 09:44 AM   #23 
  - Where Catholics and Fundies part ways...  0rganism   Dec-08-05 02:37 PM   #32 
  - I hope they mean it for their teachers.  knitter4democracy   Dec-08-05 05:20 PM   #39 
  - Even the conservative Bush Jesus freaks should agree with this. It  VegasWolf   Dec-08-05 05:24 PM   #41 
  - godless commies! bleeding heart secular humanists!  NuttyFluffers   Dec-08-05 06:55 PM   #47 
  - :::clap, clap, clap:::  Wordie   Dec-08-05 07:02 PM   #48 
  - He can bitch all he wants, but I would bet he  DeadManInc   Dec-08-05 07:10 PM   #49 
  - There was something similar before the election  jamesinca   Dec-08-05 07:30 PM   #50 
  - The catholic church does not practice its 'preach'  MichiganVote   Dec-09-05 07:37 AM   #59 
     - You're speaking about a minority in the Church.  Bridget Burke   Dec-09-05 08:36 AM   #60 
     - That's a pointless excuse and you know it. If an entire body of Bishops  MichiganVote   Dec-09-05 10:18 AM   #67 
        - So--parents still keep molestation hushed up?  Bridget Burke   Dec-09-05 10:28 AM   #69 
           - Cover up's work for those who have a vested interest  MichiganVote   Dec-09-05 01:09 PM   #75 
     - The Catholic church has made mistakes in the past  jamesinca   Dec-09-05 10:16 AM   #66 
        - Molestation is not a "mistake" and neither is covering it up.  MichiganVote   Dec-09-05 10:24 AM   #68 
  - Finally, the Catholic church says something I can get behind. nt  drhilarius   Dec-09-05 03:12 AM   #57 
  - They might know that Roe is toast with Alito +1  DaveColorado   Dec-09-05 05:19 AM   #58 
  - Between the sex abuse scandals and the Church's support for *...  AX10   Dec-09-05 08:52 AM   #63 
  - We Catholics cannot figure out when we vote  adigal   Dec-09-05 10:37 AM   #70 
  - Rather ironic and a bit humorous -  lynne   Dec-09-05 03:50 PM   #79 
  - Keep voting for the so called moral Repuke party and watch how  sarcasmo   Dec-09-05 05:59 PM   #84 

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