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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:31 AM
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141. Nature has plenty of lethal solutions to overpopulation
They're called starvation, dehydration and predation.

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  -More Than 50 Black Bears Killed in N.J. Thom Little  Dec-06-05 01:47 PM   #0 
  - Sport Hunters. Can't live with em', can't skin 'em and eat 'em  DS1   Dec-06-05 01:50 PM   #1 
  - What exactly is a "sport hunter" anyway?  flvegan   Dec-06-05 08:52 PM   #50 
  - one who kills animals for sport because it's "fun" and makes his dick seem  wordpix   Dec-06-05 08:54 PM   #51 
  - Oh you can't?  The Stranger   Dec-07-05 09:48 AM   #70 
  - Stephen Colbert would be proud  HillDem   Dec-06-05 01:52 PM   #2 
  - I saw that last night  jilln   Dec-06-05 02:16 PM   #11 
  - we're here to help them."  TX-RAT   Dec-06-05 01:54 PM   #3 
  - Give them a big bear hug.  seriousstan   Dec-06-05 02:03 PM   #6 
  - Some people are willing to get arrested  jilln   Dec-06-05 02:17 PM   #12 
     - Your choice.  TX-RAT   Dec-06-05 02:33 PM   #23 
     - While sitting in jail  imported_dem   Dec-06-05 02:43 PM   #25 
        - brilliant question!!!  jilln   Dec-06-05 05:43 PM   #39 
           - As opposed to your brilliantly 1980's response?  Squatch   Dec-06-05 09:38 PM   #56 
  - The protesters better be careful  imported_dem   Dec-06-05 01:55 PM   #4 
  - Yep...it sure is...  Squatch   Dec-06-05 02:25 PM   #20 
  - Some people choose to do what's right in defiance of the law  LeftyMom   Dec-06-05 04:54 PM   #33 
  - You are hearby charged  SOS   Dec-06-05 05:38 PM   #37 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-06-05 08:50 PM   #49 
     - Adios  saigon68   Dec-09-05 04:07 AM   #148 
  - I Hope Thousands Stampede the Hunters  stepnw1f   Dec-07-05 03:51 PM   #123 
  - I'm surprised a small and so populated state as NJ has that many  WI_DEM   Dec-06-05 01:56 PM   #5 
  - That part of NJ is fairly rural.  yibbehobba   Dec-06-05 02:06 PM   #7 
  - All the construction going on here  brentspeak   Dec-06-05 02:07 PM   #8 
  - The Statistics are Suspicious  BJW   Dec-06-05 03:59 PM   #30 
  - It's unfortunate but necessary -  lynne   Dec-06-05 02:07 PM   #9 
  - spoken like a true hunter  jilln   Dec-06-05 02:15 PM   #10 
  - I'm willing to entertain any other solution -  lynne   Dec-06-05 02:24 PM   #19 
  - Prepare for the sound of crickets.  TX-RAT   Dec-06-05 02:36 PM   #24 
  - Yep, that what I thought too.  A Simple Game   Dec-06-05 02:58 PM   #26 
  - Birth control? Putting a condom on a bear would be very dangerous!  MadisonProgressive   Dec-07-05 02:33 PM   #109 
     - lol, can't wait to hear that story.  TX-RAT   Dec-07-05 03:16 PM   #114 
        - Somehow I think it would be a bit messy  MadisonProgressive   Dec-07-05 03:21 PM   #117 
  - I was working  jilln   Dec-06-05 05:45 PM   #40 
  - Read the article first  BJW   Dec-06-05 04:00 PM   #31 
  - I did read the article. Are you speaking of the fireworks -  lynne   Dec-06-05 05:00 PM   #34 
  - Quit laying off Park Rangers and let them cull them  LostinVA   Dec-06-05 08:32 PM   #45 
  - Ironically, my husband is a Park Ranger -  lynne   Dec-06-05 09:17 PM   #53 
  - birth control  jilln   Dec-07-05 09:22 AM   #66 
     - Birth control is temporary and terribly expensive  Squatch   Dec-07-05 09:32 AM   #67 
     - Yes, killing is cheaper  jilln   Dec-07-05 03:02 PM   #110 
     - Birth control is not "obviously" an option. It is only obvious if you  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 09:58 AM   #73 
        - Like I said, it's not gonna appease the bloodthirsty.  jilln   Dec-07-05 03:03 PM   #111 
           - That's a cheap shot. If it doesn't work it doesn't work. Has nothing to  yellowcanine   Dec-08-05 10:08 AM   #144 
  - What is "natural" about having so many bears they are eating out of  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 09:51 AM   #72 
  - Death happens in nature, there have to be preditors  losdiablosgato   Dec-07-05 11:16 AM   #83 
  - Nature has plenty of lethal solutions to overpopulation  shrike   Dec-08-05 09:31 AM   #141 
  - Bears are NOT herd animals  BJW   Dec-06-05 03:57 PM   #29 
  - I am aware that bears are not herd animals -  lynne   Dec-06-05 05:12 PM   #35 
  - and then reduced reproduction rates commence  BJW   Dec-06-05 05:25 PM   #36 
  - Carrying capacity is finite regardless of whether or not an animal is  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 10:17 AM   #74 
     - "Carrying capacity is finite regardless of whether or not an animal is...  theHandpuppet   Dec-07-05 10:31 AM   #76 
        - Actually humans act like a herd animal at times. Think football  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 10:38 AM   #77 
           - I was thinking more of the carrying capacity  theHandpuppet   Dec-07-05 11:53 AM   #88 
  - is there any data to suggest that NJ bear populations are actually...  mike_c   Dec-06-05 06:10 PM   #43 
  - MMmmm, them animal activists is good eatin'...  Canuckistanian   Dec-06-05 02:17 PM   #13 
  - I don't have a problem with hunting overall  noonwitch   Dec-06-05 02:19 PM   #14 
  - Relocate where? Pennsylvania does NOT want them, Neither does NY.  happyslug   Dec-06-05 03:49 PM   #27 
  - Atlantic City , they could all get rooms at the Taj. The buffet  pokercat999   Dec-07-05 06:31 AM   #61 
  - I am thinking the pig farm in Crawford. Then * could be a hero and hunt  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 10:49 AM   #78 
  - You can try--but they just come back. We had six they relocated  carolinalady   Dec-06-05 09:29 PM   #54 
     - What is a nice Carolina lady like you doing in Yankee land?  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 11:03 AM   #80 
        - until 2 years ago I was a PA yankee all my life! n/t  carolinalady   Dec-07-05 01:10 PM   #99 
           - I grew up in Lebanon County and went to Penn State. Left in 1979 and  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 01:54 PM   #106 
              - I grew up in Centre county and went to Penn State as well. n/t  carolinalady   Dec-08-05 09:22 AM   #139 
                 - Oh wow. Centre County and State College are great. What years did you  yellowcanine   Dec-08-05 10:03 AM   #143 
                    - 84-89--took a year off to live in CA. n/t  carolinalady   Dec-08-05 10:20 AM   #145 
                       - Go Nittany Lions!  yellowcanine   Dec-08-05 10:32 AM   #146 
  - What kind of "human" wants to kill something they can't even eat?  Coventina   Dec-06-05 02:20 PM   #15 
  - Who says you can't eat it  imported_dem   Dec-06-05 02:21 PM   #16 
  - Bear is actually quite tasty.  Squatch   Dec-06-05 02:22 PM   #17 
  - Who says you can't eat bear?  Mithras61   Dec-06-05 02:22 PM   #18 
  - Bear meat is excellent!  lynne   Dec-06-05 02:26 PM   #21 
     - Apparently humans are tasty too.  jilln   Dec-06-05 05:45 PM   #41 
        - I'm sure humans are tasty to a bear -  lynne   Dec-06-05 06:00 PM   #42 
           - The last time a child  flvegan   Dec-06-05 08:37 PM   #47 
           - The last time was in NY in 2002.  Xithras   Dec-07-05 11:47 AM   #87 
           - Too funny...  silvermachine   Dec-07-05 09:34 AM   #68 
           - Well, maybe if the child was somewhere in Connecticut in the early 1950's.  AntiCoup2K4   Dec-07-05 11:10 AM   #82 
  - We face a somewhat parallel dilemma out here where I live...  karlrschneider   Dec-06-05 02:28 PM   #22 
  - But the bears AREN'T starving  BJW   Dec-06-05 04:03 PM   #32 
  - NJ Wildlife Officials Population Stats Seem Suspicious  BJW   Dec-06-05 03:56 PM   #28 
  - As a NJ resident living in what is considered  karynnj   Dec-07-05 10:52 AM   #79 
  - New Jersey Bears.. wow.....  Chicago Democrat   Dec-06-05 05:43 PM   #38 
  - Once again, it's not hunting. It's shooting and killing.  flvegan   Dec-06-05 08:18 PM   #44 
  - Yup, agreed.  LostinVA   Dec-06-05 08:36 PM   #46 
  - Well, when "hunt" is defined  flvegan   Dec-06-05 08:39 PM   #48 
  - Explain, please.  Squatch   Dec-06-05 09:36 PM   #55 
     - Mmmkay  flvegan   Dec-07-05 06:05 AM   #59 
        - I don't know of anywhere where it is legal to hunt on a baited field  imported_dem   Dec-07-05 06:10 AM   #60 
           - Even with  flvegan   Dec-07-05 06:38 AM   #63 
           - The (possible) end results of hunting over bait or stalking an animal  Squatch   Dec-07-05 08:37 AM   #64 
           - Wow...  Kixel   Dec-07-05 12:19 PM   #92 
           - I know quite a few places where this is legal.  Squatch   Dec-07-05 08:45 AM   #65 
           - Fields are baited for dove hunts.  RebelOne   Dec-07-05 11:30 AM   #85 
              - "Fields are baited for dove hunts."  TX-RAT   Dec-07-05 01:08 PM   #97 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-06-05 09:00 PM   #52 
  - Wow! This is practically a war here on this thread.  freethought   Dec-06-05 10:54 PM   #57 
  - Guess some rednecks needed.....  miles55   Dec-06-05 11:51 PM   #58 
  - LOL!  RebelOne   Dec-07-05 06:33 AM   #62 
  - You know I am not a hunter but I am tired of the self rightousness  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 11:19 AM   #84 
     - you're not a Hunter nor areyou a spokesman for humanity-you defend killing  NIGHT TRIPPER   Dec-07-05 12:37 PM   #94 
     - What exactly is your point? That people are not adapted to meat eating?  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 01:01 PM   #95 
     - FYI: Many of the people opposing hunting on this thread  LeftyMom   Dec-07-05 01:03 PM   #96 
        - I realize that. See post # 95. Vegetarianism is not much of an option  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 01:09 PM   #98 
           - I don't want to drag this thread off-topic  LeftyMom   Dec-07-05 01:14 PM   #100 
           - Fair enough. But I would like your recipe for tall fescue salad sometime.  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 01:17 PM   #102 
              - There's no need to unleash the snark  LeftyMom   Dec-07-05 01:23 PM   #103 
                 - May be snarky but still true. You can shout about inefficiencies all  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 01:43 PM   #105 
                    - I'm not shouting about anything.  LeftyMom   Dec-07-05 02:08 PM   #107 
                    - Hmm. Have you done the calculations on this or is this just a WAG  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 02:20 PM   #108 
                    - The inefficiency of production and distribution of meat products is...  Beaverhausen   Dec-07-05 03:04 PM   #112 
                       - You all keep missing the point. Animals eat grass. People don't.  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 03:19 PM   #115 
                       - Would love to see it, i've been raising cows for over 25 years.  TX-RAT   Dec-07-05 03:20 PM   #116 
                          - I grew up on a dairy farm.....I never was a big fan of cows though. I  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 03:34 PM   #118 
                          - Their dumb until it's time to pen them.  TX-RAT   Dec-07-05 03:38 PM   #120 
                          - Here's a start  Beaverhausen   Dec-07-05 04:09 PM   #126 
                             - Sorry i thought you were talking about an actually study.  TX-RAT   Dec-07-05 04:20 PM   #127 
                                - A joke?  Beaverhausen   Dec-07-05 04:32 PM   #128 
                                   - Whats to disprove?  TX-RAT   Dec-07-05 04:49 PM   #129 
                                      - There are figures stated in the link and in the sections I posted  Beaverhausen   Dec-07-05 04:53 PM   #130 
                                      - You might as well be fighting with rodeo clowns  flvegan   Dec-07-05 05:26 PM   #132 
                                      - I know but I think some other DUers will read it and learn a thing or two  Beaverhausen   Dec-07-05 05:28 PM   #133 
                                      - rodeo clowns?  TX-RAT   Dec-08-05 09:36 AM   #142 
                                      - (go ahead and ignore them), - I will, their meaningless.  TX-RAT   Dec-08-05 09:02 AM   #136 
                                      - Dr. David Pimentel, PhD, prof at Cornell U  flvegan   Dec-07-05 05:24 PM   #131 
                    - I don't want a plant based diet.  TX-RAT   Dec-07-05 03:45 PM   #121 
                    - This vegetarian agrees!  Ayesha   Dec-09-05 06:32 AM   #150 
           - Those of you who are in favor of this  jilln   Dec-07-05 03:08 PM   #113 
              - You don't want to hunt or eat animals, no problem.  TX-RAT   Dec-07-05 03:34 PM   #119 
              - Why with our bare hands?  NickB79   Dec-07-05 05:43 PM   #134 
  - They are going to "tend to wounded bears" ???? I am sure the bears  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 09:39 AM   #69 
  - The base problem is too many people.  blindpig   Dec-07-05 09:51 AM   #71 
  - Maybe the bears will unite with deer to do something about the humans.  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 10:24 AM   #75 
  - When I think of Bambi  blindpig   Dec-07-05 11:36 AM   #86 
  - Lets let hunters shoot at each other  Beaverhausen   Dec-07-05 12:15 PM   #91 
  - Those bothersome bears will be gone soon enough.  tabasco   Dec-07-05 11:07 AM   #81 
  - My .02  The Sleeper   Dec-07-05 12:03 PM   #89 
  - LOL  saigon68   Dec-07-05 03:53 PM   #124 
  - NPR reported  woodcutter   Dec-07-05 12:10 PM   #90 
  - PAUL McCARTNEY AND BONO-very seriously could put the heat on N.J.-  NIGHT TRIPPER   Dec-07-05 12:27 PM   #93 
  - It is not  Tarc   Dec-08-05 09:20 AM   #138 
     - ----------IS SO !!-----------na na na na na---your "it"  NIGHT TRIPPER   Dec-09-05 03:54 AM   #147 
        - PETA  Tarc   Dec-09-05 07:45 AM   #151 
  - Wonder how many are hit by cars in PA  TX-RAT   Dec-07-05 01:14 PM   #101 
  - I don't know but PA is the numero uno for deer-car collisions.  yellowcanine   Dec-07-05 01:25 PM   #104 
     - WISCONSIN IS # 10 for Car/deer encounters  saigon68   Dec-07-05 03:47 PM   #122 
  - Fun or Necessary?  stepnw1f   Dec-07-05 03:58 PM   #125 
  - Hunting was actually found to be less efficient at controlling bear/human  flvegan   Dec-07-05 05:52 PM   #135 
  - Did you look at the study? It was a non-peer reviewed literature study  yellowcanine   Dec-08-05 09:16 AM   #137 
     - My father-in-law recently installed a low-voltage fence around  carolinalady   Dec-08-05 09:30 AM   #140 
  - I'm not one for hunting, but at least in NJ they actually  Maine-ah   Dec-09-05 04:32 AM   #149 
  - I thought the bears were hibernating at this time of year  Roon   Dec-09-05 08:08 AM   #152 
 

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