Reply #173: The Zell/Traficant arguments are actually spot on.

[TroubleMan]

She's on her way there. Her votes are starting to be more and more repug, and she's breaking away from the Democratic party with her votes and pro-war rhetoric. She's not nuts like Zell or Traficant, yet...but she's on her way there, and I don't want to see that. Both Zell and Traficant started siding more and more with the repugs before they went off the deep end. Is she there yet...no. However, I can see her going over to the dark side and that would be a shame.

As far as Clark and Warner, the same goes for their pro-war stance, but Clark can't vote on anything now...he's never been elected to any office. What's there to protest? Concerning Mark Warner...again he has no voting record to impeach (as far as I know). His pro-war stance is also unacceptable, and should he run for President without having a change of heart, I'd feel the same way about him.

Also, just because somebody's a Dem doesn't make them right. If Kucinich started doing what Hillary's doing now, I'd protest him in a second. I'm not loyal to a party or a person....I'll do what's right even if it hurts. The repug way is to fall in line, lockstep, behind someone no matter what they say, and to obfuscate and gloss over their votes you don't agree with. The Democratic way is to stand for what's right, no matter what the consequences. The ends don't justify the means.

Remember...it's Hillary who betrayed us with her pro-war stance, not us betraying the Dems. She did the wrong thing, and she needs to know about it.