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| 28. Hmmm - does this go full circle back to the Italian journalist |
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nearly killed on the road to the Baghdad airport?
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| -LA Times: FBI reopens Niger forgery case. |
RSchewe |
Dec-03-05 01:11 AM |
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OOooohh, that could get good real quick n/t |
kgfnally |
Dec-03-05 01:23 AM |
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Someone go down the memory hole and bring this back up? |
Old and In the Way |
Dec-03-05 01:32 AM |
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Watched Fahrenheit 911 again last night |
Applan |
Dec-03-05 10:04 AM |
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Not entirely true... |
Dr_eldritch |
Dec-03-05 03:32 PM |
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I call it a documentary. I would even call a film made my the right |
higher class |
Dec-03-05 03:53 PM |
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F9-11 |
PinkyisBlue |
Dec-03-05 11:20 PM |
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dupe |
Dr_eldritch |
Dec-04-05 12:11 PM |
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You mistake my meaning... |
Dr_eldritch |
Dec-04-05 12:25 PM |
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Yes, you made a good point - several, in fact. I guess I have a |
higher class |
Dec-04-05 01:33 PM |
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I guess there is a difference in propaganda that is passed off as our |
higher class |
Dec-04-05 01:34 PM |
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Yes, in it's pure form, 'Propaganda' does apply... but |
Dr_eldritch |
Dec-04-05 04:02 PM |
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There's a lot more to the Bush/Saudi connections than meets the eye.... |
AntiFascist |
Dec-04-05 05:05 PM |
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Thank you for those. |
Dr_eldritch |
Dec-04-05 06:58 PM |
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Your welcome.... a lot of it has to do with money flow... |
AntiFascist |
Dec-05-05 07:02 AM |
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So by definition |
jokerman93 |
Dec-05-05 07:52 AM |
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drink up! |
NJCher |
Dec-04-05 02:58 AM |
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Actually... yes. |
Dr_eldritch |
Dec-04-05 06:58 PM |
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I usually respect your opinion but can't believe you said this |
DemonFighterLives |
Dec-04-05 06:54 AM |
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This was supposed to be a response to someone else... |
Dr_eldritch |
Dec-04-05 12:16 PM |
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heartily disagree - polemicist |
paritom |
Dec-04-05 01:07 PM |
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If it's polemical, then it's not a 'Documentary'. n/t |
Dr_eldritch |
Dec-04-05 04:05 PM |
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Propaganda is a very loaded term for it |
Canuckistanian |
Dec-04-05 09:08 AM |
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You are right, the term does carry those connotations, but |
Dr_eldritch |
Dec-04-05 04:07 PM |
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I get a little sensitive about this |
Canuckistanian |
Dec-04-05 05:00 PM |
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Two Executive Orders were signed, National Emergencies for oil |
Peake |
Dec-03-05 07:34 PM |
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Farenheit sucks |
YoungAndLiberal |
Dec-03-05 11:43 PM |
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I don't think it sucks or got votes for the chimp |
DemonFighterLives |
Dec-04-05 06:51 AM |
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I doubt either |
seemslikeadream |
Dec-04-05 10:50 AM |
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? |
Dr_eldritch |
Dec-04-05 11:39 AM |
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This may be one of those rare (lately) cases... |
punpirate |
Dec-03-05 01:39 AM |
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Spot on, punpirate....... |
ClintonTyree |
Dec-03-05 09:31 AM |
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The "larger deception campaign," is all that matters here. |
joeunderdog |
Dec-03-05 11:31 AM |
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But I have to think... |
Dr_eldritch |
Dec-03-05 03:36 PM |
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Exactly what I was thinking. The Senate members with morals |
happydreams |
Dec-03-05 12:14 PM |
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I suspect that the |
julianer |
Dec-03-05 04:15 PM |
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OMG!!! This is incredible! K&R! See, the Dems have been busy!!! |
Wordie |
Dec-03-05 01:43 AM |
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This Martino guy... |
speedoo |
Dec-03-05 01:58 AM |
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I wonder if Michael Ledeen is implicated? |
AntiFascist |
Dec-03-05 02:33 AM |
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Clearly something has happened to cause the FBI to reopen.. |
speedoo |
Dec-03-05 02:40 AM |
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Here's more info on FBI investigating Ledeen.... |
AntiFascist |
Dec-03-05 03:06 AM |
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WOW. |
speedoo |
Dec-03-05 03:27 AM |
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I hope LA Times didn't fire the good people in their recent layoff nt |
AntiFascist |
Dec-03-05 03:31 AM |
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You can count on it and as many documents that is connected |
0007 |
Dec-03-05 07:04 AM |
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I just noticed this article.... |
AntiFascist |
Dec-03-05 05:19 PM |
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That new Robert Scheer site, truthdig, looks interesting... |
Wordie |
Dec-04-05 10:46 PM |
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And without manners and consideration for others sensibilities... |
The Backlash Cometh |
Dec-03-05 09:16 AM |
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I realize that the right-wingers who oppose Ledeen.... |
AntiFascist |
Dec-03-05 05:24 PM |
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Bombshell is right. You couldn't make this stuff up with all its sinister |
wordpix |
Dec-03-05 12:41 PM |
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thank you for keeping such good track with this element of the story |
stop the bleeding |
Dec-03-05 06:14 AM |
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my pleasure ;) |
AntiFascist |
Dec-03-05 05:27 PM |
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Manucher Ghorbanifar (the Iran-Contra arms dealer) was also at that... |
Peace Patriot |
Dec-03-05 09:47 AM |
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Well said, Peace Patriot, I think you're onto something. What was the |
wordpix |
Dec-03-05 12:48 PM |
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This is wacky.. |
thefool_wa |
Dec-03-05 05:46 PM |
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FBI Reopens Inquiry Into Forgery Leading to Iraq War -->duh!! |
Imagevision |
Dec-03-05 09:54 PM |
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Goss purged the cia |
DemonFighterLives |
Dec-04-05 07:42 AM |
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I remember this now.... |
AntiFascist |
Dec-04-05 04:47 AM |
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What do you make of the Sharon move? |
DemonFighterLives |
Dec-04-05 07:54 AM |
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I believe that.... |
AntiFascist |
Dec-04-05 07:37 PM |
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"La Repubblica POLLARI GAVE FORGERIES TO HADLEY" and MORE |
seemslikeadream |
Dec-04-05 11:12 AM |
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It definitely points to Berceloni and a secret world organization |
lovuian |
Dec-04-05 11:27 AM |
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Niger uranium forgery cover-up unravels |
seemslikeadream |
Dec-05-05 08:05 AM |
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Kick for the data dump |
DemonFighterLives |
Dec-05-05 06:40 PM |
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Shhhhhhhhhh! |
seemslikeadream |
Dec-05-05 07:48 PM |
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Alright! |
DemonFighterLives |
Dec-05-05 08:20 PM |
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Ya done took the words right outa my mouth |
PurityOfEssence |
Dec-03-05 05:52 AM |
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I think that is very likely |
Soylent Green |
Dec-04-05 12:30 AM |
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this part really perked me up: |
freeplessinseattle |
Dec-03-05 02:27 AM |
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whow---but hope the WH somehow does not get to them!! |
rodeodance |
Dec-03-05 06:50 AM |
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the word 'could' is in this sentence! |
rodeodance |
Dec-03-05 07:03 AM |
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"US Citizens" advising the pentagon, cheney and rove |
leftchick |
Dec-03-05 07:35 AM |
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Definitely K&R |
drm604 |
Dec-03-05 02:59 AM |
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Is this what's making Mama Bush so ticked at Darth Vader, et al? |
zann725 |
Dec-03-05 09:43 AM |
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Those Documents Terrorized the American People!! |
Senator |
Dec-03-05 03:03 AM |
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I Agree |
Soylent Green |
Dec-04-05 12:37 AM |
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possible scenarios |
radfringe |
Dec-03-05 03:24 AM |
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Something that always set off my B.S. detector |
Peachhead22 |
Dec-03-05 04:22 AM |
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But the forgeries WERE part of a moneymaking scheme! |
Barad Simith |
Dec-03-05 05:11 AM |
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Exactly ! |
hippiechick |
Dec-03-05 07:52 AM |
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remember, "Iraq oil will pay for the war" and other lies, while BushCo |
wordpix |
Dec-03-05 12:51 PM |
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Yep, me too. |
Wordie |
Dec-03-05 05:03 PM |
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Stuff like this makes me think we might still have a chance |
BamaBecky |
Dec-03-05 06:07 AM |
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yes yes yes |
rodeodance |
Dec-03-05 06:54 AM |
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it's beginning to look alot like Fitzmas - K&R |
stop the bleeding |
Dec-03-05 06:11 AM |
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Kicked and nominated! This is great news! |
No Exit |
Dec-03-05 06:13 AM |
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the fbi's first explanation was so silly that they had no choice. |
rodeodance |
Dec-03-05 06:35 AM |
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Outrageously lame excuse for prematurely closing out the investigation |
wishlist |
Dec-03-05 07:01 AM |
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Well, as someone else said, it WAS part of a moneymaking scheme |
No Exit |
Dec-03-05 07:35 AM |
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nominated |
rodeodance |
Dec-03-05 06:37 AM |
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WTF was this case ever closed for in the first place? |
0007 |
Dec-03-05 06:56 AM |
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Same MO as with Black--shut down the investigation. |
happydreams |
Dec-03-05 12:25 PM |
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happydreams as in this nation is in a deep deep sleep as if |
0007 |
Dec-03-05 01:01 PM |
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They could have asked Chalabi what he knew |
EuroObserver |
Dec-03-05 06:57 AM |
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Hmmm - does this go full circle back to the Italian journalist |
Vinca |
Dec-03-05 07:00 AM |
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recall the Italian gov. has tried to shut this case also. |
rodeodance |
Dec-03-05 07:35 AM |
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The Italian intelligence agent WAS killed and some thought he was the |
leesa |
Dec-03-05 09:11 AM |
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Brits chief WMD expert also dead---see message #50 |
wordpix |
Dec-03-05 12:56 PM |
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Wowser....... |
Oceansaway |
Dec-03-05 08:26 AM |
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You know I love you ALL, but please....... |
burythehatchet |
Dec-03-05 08:28 AM |
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My first thought, |
rateyes |
Dec-03-05 09:05 AM |
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It's possible that you are right.. |
sendero |
Dec-03-05 09:14 AM |
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I'm going to encourage you to read the complete article |
burythehatchet |
Dec-03-05 09:17 AM |
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I read about a third of this... |
sendero |
Dec-03-05 03:02 PM |
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The main "conspiracy" we need to worry about is PNAC.... |
AntiFascist |
Dec-03-05 06:30 PM |
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like the Iraqi "intelligence" reports |
BadgerKid |
Dec-03-05 11:40 PM |
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Yes but... |
sendero |
Dec-04-05 06:27 AM |
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the whole freaking press in under control |
ldf |
Dec-04-05 12:04 PM |
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I like people to be skeptical but this scoop article |
happydreams |
Dec-03-05 04:13 PM |
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Read the Spy Novel Shibumi by Trevelyan - I "borrowed" his name |
Trevelyan |
Dec-04-05 10:37 AM |
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Exactly. Good post. My guess is that Cheney was pushing for the |
Boneman |
Dec-03-05 09:42 AM |
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Yes, this is suspicious, considering the timing of it. |
Usrename |
Dec-03-05 02:35 PM |
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I was unaware of this until recently someone posted USS Liberty info |
Trevelyan |
Dec-04-05 11:01 AM |
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Will this lead to the core group? |
Clara T |
Dec-03-05 09:07 AM |
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Now that they've been embarrassed to death over this. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Dec-03-05 09:10 AM |
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Early morning kick |
BareNakedLiberal |
Dec-03-05 09:32 AM |
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FBI? If they are re-opening it, it's only to bury it deeper. They have |
leesa |
Dec-03-05 09:39 AM |
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It's the Senate forcing the FBI to do its job. I thought the same thing |
happydreams |
Dec-03-05 12:32 PM |
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appalling |
Rich Hunt |
Dec-03-05 05:17 PM |
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forged documents....just one more piece of the plan |
MellowOne |
Dec-03-05 11:04 AM |
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About fricking time! |
Richard D |
Dec-03-05 11:53 AM |
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Holy clusterfaack!!! |
happydreams |
Dec-03-05 12:08 PM |
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Excellent news! |
Patsy Stone |
Dec-03-05 12:17 PM |
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Jeeeeez, the shutting down of the investigation warrants an |
happydreams |
Dec-03-05 12:29 PM |
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A Coverup That Won’t Stay Covered (FBI, Just One Example) |
Trevelyan |
Dec-04-05 11:18 AM |
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Fitz probably found something in his look at it. |
MidwestTransplant |
Dec-03-05 01:02 PM |
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What a trip - and Porter Goss couldn't squash this?!! |
Imagevision |
Dec-03-05 01:17 PM |
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Kick! |
Independent_Liberal |
Dec-03-05 01:41 PM |
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A kick of gratitude to eriposte at theleftcoaster.com and |
Wordie |
Dec-03-05 01:54 PM |
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Rove, Leeden, Franklin, Italians etc. |
savemefromdumbya |
Dec-03-05 02:06 PM |
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You apparently missed a very important part: the forgeries were DOCTORED. |
Wordie |
Dec-03-05 08:31 PM |
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Excellent news |
sonias |
Dec-03-05 03:29 PM |
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Another (joyful) kick. |
Wordie |
Dec-03-05 04:37 PM |
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Is the LA Times resisting the RW take over? Several hi profile stories. |
McCamy Taylor |
Dec-03-05 04:37 PM |
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bttft |
0007 |
Dec-03-05 05:57 PM |
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KICK! n/t |
CdnObserver |
Dec-03-05 06:21 PM |
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JAIL for LEDEEN |
Ouabache |
Dec-03-05 07:48 PM |
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Another kick (I've got my tinfoil hat on, folks.) |
Wordie |
Dec-03-05 08:18 PM |
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Don't forget the inescapable charge against Bush |
gulliver |
Dec-03-05 09:47 PM |
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presidentin is hard work n/t |
sellitman |
Dec-04-05 10:18 AM |
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Whitewash on the way, I think |
daleo |
Dec-03-05 11:45 PM |
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People, the purpose of this is to try to BURY THIS ISSUE - the finding is |
Nothing Without Hope |
Dec-03-05 11:47 PM |
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yes, but |
savemefromdumbya |
Dec-04-05 10:34 PM |
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Let's hope that happens - but I still believe that the purpose of this new |
Nothing Without Hope |
Dec-05-05 06:41 PM |
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Another 'Whitewash' possible... |
ngGale |
Dec-04-05 03:03 AM |
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Maybe I should be in the fbi |
DemonFighterLives |
Dec-04-05 07:28 AM |
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I think anyone who isn't rotten |
babsbunny |
Dec-04-05 08:35 AM |
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I hope you are right! |
DemonFighterLives |
Dec-04-05 08:41 AM |
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I'm sure some will try another whitewash |
DemonFighterLives |
Dec-04-05 11:01 AM |
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A Sunday kick...(ALL DUers need to see this!) |
Wordie |
Dec-04-05 02:59 PM |
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Just a thought: This probably wouldn't have happened if Bush wasn't still |
jsamuel |
Dec-05-05 07:28 AM |
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Funny thing about forged documents... |
WarhammerTwo |
Dec-05-05 11:06 AM |
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Welcome to DU! |
DemonFighterLives |
Dec-05-05 06:14 PM |
#147 |