IA_Seth
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Thu Nov-17-05 05:29 PM
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I agree that all people should have the right to self-determination, and I think it is absurd to think that every people, every culture would come to the same set of "rights" and "freedoms" that we came to here in the US.
I don't argue that there law isn't good for them..if it wasn't there would be people pushing for its abolition, and there isnt.
I am just saying that I...me...couched in my born-in-the-USA mindset...have a hard time agreeing to put someone in prison for 1-10 years based on something they believe to be true (regardless of how moronic that thought may be).
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| -Austria holds 'Holocaust denier' |
emad |
Nov-17-05 10:53 AM |
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HAH! |
ENomine |
Nov-17-05 10:54 AM |
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uhhhh |
realisticphish |
Nov-17-05 10:55 AM |
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Yep... |
IA_Seth |
Nov-17-05 11:02 AM |
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It gets to be a problem, though... |
yibbehobba |
Nov-17-05 11:08 AM |
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You are probably right... |
IA_Seth |
Nov-17-05 11:09 AM |
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Eyewitnesses to Dachau Gas Chamber |
UpInArms |
Nov-17-05 11:55 AM |
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I don't doubt it happened for a minute... |
IA_Seth |
Nov-17-05 01:01 PM |
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Nov-17-05 01:09 PM |
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exact-a-mundo |
Romulus |
Nov-17-05 02:42 PM |
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Why do you keep talking about the freepers? |
yibbehobba |
Nov-17-05 03:24 PM |
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That hasn't happend in how many years of that law? |
Realityhack |
Nov-17-05 05:05 PM |
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I agree... |
IA_Seth |
Nov-17-05 05:29 PM |
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I can fully agree with that as well. |
Realityhack |
Nov-17-05 05:40 PM |
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It's Austria.... |
Andromeda |
Nov-18-05 03:24 AM |
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That report is incorrect. All of gassing facilities were in Poland |
Zuni |
Nov-17-05 03:32 PM |
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Read this... |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-17-05 03:52 PM |
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Hmm I cannot link directly to the site |
psychopomp |
Nov-19-05 12:32 PM |
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Sorry about that... |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-19-05 02:17 PM |
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Dachau gas chambers were never used |
It was not a pretzel |
Nov-19-05 04:18 PM |
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Inconclusive |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-19-05 04:39 PM |
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Nov-17-05 11:20 AM |
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Good -- Irving is a lying creep, and Germany/Austria, etc. |
LostinVA |
Nov-17-05 12:07 PM |
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Nov-17-05 12:16 PM |
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You are using an American mind, history, and sensibilities |
LostinVA |
Nov-17-05 12:27 PM |
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Nov-17-05 12:36 PM |
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Jesus. |
yibbehobba |
Nov-17-05 12:41 PM |
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Nov-17-05 12:49 PM |
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Look, |
yibbehobba |
Nov-17-05 12:56 PM |
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Nov-17-05 01:01 PM |
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where in Turkey are the women required to wear head coverings? |
Hamlette |
Nov-17-05 06:09 PM |
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It's depressing to continually witness |
Karenina |
Nov-17-05 06:16 PM |
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I have to agree. |
Realityhack |
Nov-17-05 05:11 PM |
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Held on 'suspicions of denying the holocaust' : getting to be a |
emad |
Nov-17-05 10:55 AM |
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I wonder |
Turbineguy |
Nov-17-05 10:59 AM |
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let's hope they're laced with that truth drug that makes the eater |
emad |
Nov-17-05 11:01 AM |
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I'd rather see him get one of these: |
yibbehobba |
Nov-17-05 11:21 AM |
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or sausages, perhaps? |
truthisfreedom |
Nov-19-05 09:16 AM |
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So if I go to Austria and say |
cliss |
Nov-17-05 11:32 AM |
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Continental Europe is not like the UK or US. |
yibbehobba |
Nov-17-05 11:41 AM |
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And, their experiences with the Holocaust and Nazis |
LostinVA |
Nov-17-05 12:10 PM |
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I think it's hard to get people in the US to understand this. |
yibbehobba |
Nov-17-05 12:17 PM |
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Nice post |
LostinVA |
Nov-17-05 12:20 PM |
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Very true, I'm afraid... |
KDLarsen |
Nov-19-05 01:14 PM |
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"Never again." |
geek tragedy |
Nov-17-05 12:09 PM |
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Agreed. |
Realityhack |
Nov-17-05 05:16 PM |
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It's Austria, not Australia... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-19-05 04:01 PM |
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Austria has waited patiently for 26 years with that arrest warrant. |
emad |
Nov-18-05 09:17 AM |
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Uh huh. |
ENomine |
Nov-18-05 08:04 PM |
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Wow |
wryter2000 |
Nov-17-05 11:00 AM |
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Ahem! Poodle's education minister Ruth Kelly, ostensibly NO |
emad |
Nov-17-05 11:18 AM |
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Ha! You fucking neo-nazi piece of shit anti-semetic c***. |
Monkey see Monkey Do |
Nov-17-05 11:49 AM |
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I believe the word you were looking for is... |
yibbehobba |
Nov-17-05 12:03 PM |
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They should have |
PATRICK |
Nov-17-05 12:05 PM |
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Nov-17-05 12:06 PM |
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It is not fascist... and the US has no right to force their |
LostinVA |
Nov-17-05 12:17 PM |
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Nov-17-05 12:21 PM |
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Then you know nothing of Irving's influence in Europe, Canada, |
LostinVA |
Nov-17-05 12:35 PM |
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Nov-17-05 12:57 PM |
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I'm glad you support only one kind of fascist. |
yibbehobba |
Nov-17-05 02:11 PM |
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Ever tried speaking out for a violent overthrow of the US government? |
Realityhack |
Nov-17-05 05:20 PM |
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BTW see post #50 It seems they are seperating on FACTS and IDEAS eom |
Realityhack |
Nov-17-05 05:58 PM |
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You are wrong. |
yibbehobba |
Nov-17-05 12:37 PM |
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Nov-17-05 01:06 PM |
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Free Speech |
theEmpireNeverEnded |
Nov-17-05 01:26 PM |
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Welcome to DU |
lastliberalintexas |
Nov-17-05 05:12 PM |
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Sorry but... |
Realityhack |
Nov-17-05 06:05 PM |
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Actually it does not "respect the right to individual beliefs" |
lastliberalintexas |
Nov-17-05 06:14 PM |
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You can beleive anything... you just can't state it as fact. |
Realityhack |
Nov-18-05 10:03 AM |
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Righty-o |
ENomine |
Nov-18-05 08:09 PM |
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Nov-17-05 01:30 PM |
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Wow. |
yibbehobba |
Nov-17-05 02:09 PM |
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He's right about one thing though |
AuntJen |
Nov-17-05 03:50 PM |
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To quote Irving: |
Monkey see Monkey Do |
Nov-19-05 09:12 AM |
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OK, you know better than me |
AuntJen |
Nov-19-05 12:06 PM |
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Banning fascism is legitimate. |
David__77 |
Nov-17-05 01:38 PM |
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I think you've got it there. |
Robb |
Nov-17-05 01:49 PM |
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FREE SPEECH?? |
DiverDave |
Nov-17-05 01:44 PM |
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Huh? |
theEmpireNeverEnded |
Nov-17-05 02:11 PM |
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He's a lying pigfucker. |
yibbehobba |
Nov-17-05 02:15 PM |
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whats worse |
theEmpireNeverEnded |
Nov-17-05 02:29 PM |
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Austria... |
yibbehobba |
Nov-17-05 03:22 PM |
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That post ignores the facts. |
Realityhack |
Nov-17-05 05:00 PM |
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Austria has no kangaroos |
Eureka |
Nov-17-05 07:09 PM |
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DOH |
Realityhack |
Nov-18-05 10:04 AM |
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Very nice post |
SomewhereOutThere424 |
Nov-18-05 09:30 AM |
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"Yelling fire in a theater", is not |
DiverDave |
Nov-18-05 04:42 AM |
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About opinions and statements |
Kellanved |
Nov-17-05 03:07 PM |
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Very nice post. Well put and informative. |
Realityhack |
Nov-17-05 05:41 PM |
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Good explanation. |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-17-05 08:46 PM |
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Having read most of these replies, |
Pigwidgeon |
Nov-17-05 03:24 PM |
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Did you read the post directly above yours? |
Realityhack |
Nov-17-05 05:45 PM |
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Yes, but it is simply a word- and law-parsing evasion |
Pigwidgeon |
Nov-17-05 06:15 PM |
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Nazisim is already special in those countries. |
Realityhack |
Nov-18-05 09:58 AM |
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The KKK has the right to free speech here |
realisticphish |
Nov-17-05 03:39 PM |
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right on |
theEmpireNeverEnded |
Nov-17-05 04:10 PM |
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Hmmm... |
Realityhack |
Nov-17-05 04:57 PM |
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of course i am exaggerating |
realisticphish |
Nov-17-05 05:01 PM |
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I would agree that it definately can backfire. |
Realityhack |
Nov-17-05 05:37 PM |
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BTW did you read post #50? |
Realityhack |
Nov-17-05 05:53 PM |
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I have an idea... |
Endangered Specie |
Nov-17-05 06:09 PM |
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paging RimJob |
northzax |
Nov-17-05 07:13 PM |
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In my opinion, authoritarianism is bad... |
girl gone mad |
Nov-17-05 07:23 PM |
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10-20 years |
Radioactive |
Nov-17-05 09:39 PM |
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2 points |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-17-05 11:13 PM |
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Anyone with a different view on the Iraq war than Bush should go to jail! |
Democat |
Nov-17-05 11:41 PM |
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Very poor analysis. |
Behind the Aegis |
Nov-18-05 01:44 AM |
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Let's reverse it then |
SomewhereOutThere424 |
Nov-18-05 09:36 AM |
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I agree with what you're saying but still |
superconnected |
Nov-18-05 10:07 AM |
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I would just like to point out... |
yibbehobba |
Nov-18-05 10:29 AM |
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Wasn't the insinuation I was trying to make. |
SomewhereOutThere424 |
Nov-18-05 10:40 AM |
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How about some of the pro-slavery, anti-abolition tracts? |
Coastie for Truth |
Nov-18-05 08:45 AM |
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I am gonna write a book about him and deny he was ever arrested :) |
The Straight Story |
Nov-18-05 09:25 AM |
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Under their legal system |
Realityhack |
Nov-18-05 09:59 AM |
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5th Ave, Central Park East, 1968...A friend of mine and I were enjoying |
rasputin1952 |
Nov-18-05 09:52 PM |
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He has a lot of 'previous'. From the BBC webste: |
emad |
Nov-19-05 07:17 AM |
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US Professor Deborah Lipstadt - who branded him a liar and won: |
emad |
Nov-19-05 07:20 AM |
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Her book about the trial is great |
LostinVA |
Nov-19-05 07:27 AM |
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The guy is a moron |
DaveColorado |
Nov-19-05 09:16 AM |
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Austria isn't the US... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-19-05 04:17 PM |
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David Irving is a creep and a slimeball of the highest order |
socialdemocrat1981 |
Nov-19-05 09:58 AM |
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My opinion |
ThePopulist |
Nov-19-05 04:19 PM |
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People on this thread keep on saying "thought crime" |
LostinVA |
Nov-19-05 07:31 PM |
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Exactly... |
Violet_Crumble |
Nov-19-05 07:51 PM |
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Uh, yes this is a thought crime |
ThePopulist |
Nov-19-05 10:27 PM |
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Uh, I'm not a buddy, and this isn't thought crime |
LostinVA |
Nov-20-05 07:44 AM |
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Well, slavery and slave trade in the US was a fact |
Clutch Cargo |
Nov-20-05 08:50 AM |
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If someone says slavery did not exist or that it was exaggerated... |
Democat |
Nov-20-05 08:53 AM |
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Are they doing it in systematic way? |
ErisFiveFingers |
Nov-20-05 09:28 AM |
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Okay |
ThePopulist |
Nov-20-05 03:23 PM |
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locking |
maddezmom |
Nov-21-05 09:29 AM |
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