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Mon Nov-14-05 12:43 AM
Response to Reply #46 |
| 48. There are soooo many variable in this... |
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Assuming (this is a big if, of course) that this is indeed true--
1) Either the HIV strain he had was/is different from some of the more prevelent ones
2) He himself has an odd mutation somewhere along the lines of his immune system...if this is true, hoo boy, there are too many possibilities to think of on why he was able to clear the virus.
I have no idea how on earth this will be tackled. I would have no idea where to start exploring.
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| -Briton world's first to beat HIV: reports |
maddezmom |
Nov-13-05 03:46 AM |
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The religious fundies worst nightmare: AIDS could be cured |
bluestateguy |
Nov-13-05 03:56 AM |
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Yeah, makes me think of all the times |
tenshi816 |
Nov-13-05 03:59 AM |
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They'll declare War on Medicine |
shockingelk |
Nov-13-05 04:15 AM |
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Their god |
zidzi |
Nov-13-05 01:41 PM |
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is not my god. |
nemo137 |
Nov-14-05 05:05 PM |
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They believe diseasea- all of them- to be punishment |
kgfnally |
Nov-13-05 04:11 AM |
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"They believe disease- all of them- to be punishment" |
davekriss |
Nov-13-05 07:28 PM |
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re: step outside "the wisdom of the Bible" |
Oregonian |
Nov-14-05 10:41 AM |
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It is filled with the wisdom of poetry and allegory |
davekriss |
Nov-14-05 11:21 PM |
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Religion Redux |
davekriss |
Nov-14-05 11:37 PM |
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IMHO it is the DRUG companies worst nightmare... |
wakeme2008 |
Nov-13-05 04:53 AM |
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Wonderful news! |
mexicoxpat |
Nov-13-05 05:20 AM |
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what do you mean "unless"? ;-) n/t |
progdonkey |
Nov-13-05 06:12 AM |
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Wow! Hope Andrew Stimpson will not be the only success. n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Nov-13-05 03:58 AM |
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how I hope this is true; how I hope it can be duplicated |
darkmaestro019 |
Nov-13-05 04:16 AM |
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I hear you in a way |
Old sixties guy |
Nov-13-05 06:51 PM |
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If true this is wonderful |
shenmue |
Nov-13-05 04:23 AM |
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It's one guy. And it's too damn late for my best friend. |
aquart |
Nov-13-05 04:52 AM |
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Well I'm sorry about your friends |
shenmue |
Nov-13-05 06:00 AM |
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dude |
progdonkey |
Nov-13-05 06:16 AM |
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Lost my friend too, and understand how you feel |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Nov-13-05 08:41 AM |
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Well, I Pretty Damned Sure All My Friends Lost To AIDS Would Be Supportive |
cryingshame |
Nov-13-05 12:33 PM |
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My wife TODAY is cross-country at the funeral... |
davekriss |
Nov-13-05 07:43 PM |
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It's one person, who was cured by himself? |
lizzy |
Nov-13-05 11:41 AM |
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Because if they discover the mechanism whereby his body beat it |
alcibiades_mystery |
Nov-13-05 12:05 PM |
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It's not that simple, I'm afraid. |
Liberal Veteran |
Nov-13-05 12:26 PM |
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amazing wonderful news! |
xchrom |
Nov-13-05 05:06 AM |
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Power of the mind baby!!! |
shadowknows69 |
Nov-13-05 07:14 AM |
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Could it be the hospital covering their ass? |
shawn703 |
Nov-13-05 08:22 AM |
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Probably not. |
Straight Shooter |
Nov-13-05 08:45 AM |
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That would be my bet too. Maybe they accidentally contaminated |
lizzy |
Nov-13-05 11:42 AM |
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That would be the most likely case.... |
Liberal Veteran |
Nov-13-05 12:00 PM |
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Just like people going to fertility clinics in rare cases end up with |
lizzy |
Nov-13-05 12:06 PM |
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Not everyone is sure that this is true |
Heaven and Earth |
Nov-13-05 08:41 AM |
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There's more to the article |
whatelseisnew |
Nov-13-05 08:51 AM |
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WTF??? |
RadFemFL |
Nov-13-05 10:09 AM |
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no, once he tested positive |
northzax |
Nov-13-05 10:29 AM |
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No, he wouldn't have antibodies. |
Liberal Veteran |
Nov-13-05 11:52 AM |
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Thanks For That Info. May I Ask, Wouldn't This Person Be Unique In That |
cryingshame |
Nov-13-05 12:46 PM |
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Assuming we take the story at face value....yes. |
Liberal Veteran |
Nov-13-05 12:53 PM |
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No, he has been told he is HIV positive, and since |
lizzy |
Nov-13-05 11:46 AM |
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Caution over HIV 'cure' claims |
andyarundel |
Nov-13-05 09:51 AM |
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Bottle Andrew Stimpson and sell him - nt |
Barkley |
Nov-13-05 10:37 AM |
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Not to throw cold water on this.... |
Liberal Veteran |
Nov-13-05 11:31 AM |
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Good points. |
rayofreason |
Nov-13-05 11:53 AM |
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Funny, I've heard this story half a dozen times now. |
sofa king |
Nov-13-05 12:17 PM |
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Yep...when I read this I was nagged by a story I recall |
Liberal Veteran |
Nov-13-05 12:21 PM |
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I remember a story from the late '80s or early '90s. |
Chemical Bill |
Nov-13-05 02:44 PM |
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It is a hoax for two reasons |
cosmicone |
Nov-13-05 12:50 PM |
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UK Guardian: Man claims vitamins cured his HIV |
Taxloss |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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Big Pharma is going to have him killed. |
BrklynLiberal |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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Thje vitamin pill manufacturers will protect him |
barb162 |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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. |
kgfnally |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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The sad thing is, is that |
Megahurtz |
Nov-14-05 11:17 AM |
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please just one example of this claim |
andyarundel |
Nov-15-05 06:59 AM |
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There are soooo many variable in this... |
WindRavenX |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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not to throw cold water on this, but |
unblock |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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But 2 false positives? |
politicat |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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you're assuming the two false positives are uncorrelated |
unblock |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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Well, usually when an HIV test comes back positive, a different test is |
politicat |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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Those are really good points. |
barb162 |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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i got one more for ya -- |
unblock |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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Hadn't thought of that! It would make sense |
barb162 |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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The article I read |
capaylib |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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That's pretty much my thinking |
Monkey see Monkey Do |
Nov-14-05 09:51 AM |
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see also this thread in GLBT forum: |
pinto |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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I'll believe it when his doctors write him up in a REPUTABLE |
kestrel91316 |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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hate to say it but this guy is probably a fraud |
dwickham |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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unfortunately, this story doesn't mean anything unless he submits to more |
truthisfreedom |
Nov-14-05 12:43 AM |
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Oh come on, he must have done SOMETHING |
Megahurtz |
Nov-14-05 10:47 AM |
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Is this the first person in the world to cure himself of HIV? |
George Oilwellian |
Nov-14-05 12:50 PM |
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What if.. |
ananda |
Nov-14-05 12:50 PM |
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The article clearly stated... |
George Oilwellian |
Nov-14-05 12:50 PM |
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This is not the first person |
zalinda |
Nov-14-05 12:50 PM |
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Actually, they have....they weren't infected with HIV. |
Liberal Veteran |
Nov-14-05 10:19 PM |
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do you have some evidence based studies to ..... |
andyarundel |
Nov-15-05 07:02 AM |
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I saw this on the BBC...I hope it is not a fake |
YOY |
Nov-14-05 12:50 PM |
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Also I recall cases of women in Africa being able to fight off the virus |
whatever4 |
Nov-14-05 12:50 PM |
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I've heard of people not developing |
nickinSTL |
Nov-14-05 12:50 PM |
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I read that people were doing this in the late 80's. |
MissMarple |
Nov-14-05 12:50 PM |
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Nothing would please me more but... |
William769 |
Nov-14-05 01:01 PM |
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Gibson predicted this in his book "virtual light" |
LeftofU |
Nov-15-05 10:28 AM |
#82 |
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