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Thu Nov-10-05 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #24 |
| -Foreign policy 'spurs Muslim extremism' |
emad |
Nov-10-05 09:58 AM |
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Quelle Surprise......... |
PDJane |
Nov-10-05 10:00 AM |
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Didn't we all know that western foreign policy.. |
ananda |
Nov-10-05 10:05 AM |
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these headlines need to be in our press----all across the land! |
rodeodance |
Nov-10-05 10:07 AM |
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so muslims should determine western foreign policy?? |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 10:10 AM |
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No. Muslims are members of "the people" and their interests must,... |
Just Me |
Nov-10-05 10:13 AM |
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we are talking foreign policy here, not domestic |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 10:17 AM |
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No, but... |
IA_Seth |
Nov-10-05 10:23 AM |
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I believe foreign policy reflects a country's own interests |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 10:25 AM |
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You weren't referring to "other nations" but rather "Muslims". |
Just Me |
Nov-10-05 10:47 AM |
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what are you talking about?? |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 10:51 AM |
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Right, and then... |
IA_Seth |
Nov-10-05 10:51 AM |
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sure, the consequences of a particular policy should be analyzed |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 10:55 AM |
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No |
IA_Seth |
Nov-10-05 11:00 AM |
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no, because I really don't believe that foreign policy causes |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 11:03 AM |
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No, I dont think that is what I said. |
IA_Seth |
Nov-10-05 11:11 AM |
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mindful is fine, I agree with that |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 11:19 AM |
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yeah ok..I was waiting for that.. |
IA_Seth |
Nov-10-05 11:24 AM |
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I'd love to hear some specifics you'd like to change |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 11:26 AM |
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In a nutshell... |
IA_Seth |
Nov-10-05 11:32 AM |
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I agree with that |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 11:37 AM |
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we never have to sacrifice our ideals and values |
ktlyon |
Nov-10-05 03:51 PM |
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actually, I'd like to "feel" some concrete examples |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 04:29 PM |
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you can think that, and you'd be wrong |
pop goes the weasel |
Nov-10-05 11:17 AM |
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taking into account is fine |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 11:25 AM |
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a country's own interests |
pop goes the weasel |
Nov-10-05 11:08 AM |
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sure, but there are conflicting interests |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 11:16 AM |
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there's nothing in the article to suggest |
pop goes the weasel |
Nov-10-05 11:41 AM |
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Extremely nationalistic approach even if it |
happydreams |
Nov-10-05 02:03 PM |
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of course it is nationalistic |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 02:25 PM |
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Little bit of forced relocation, with some "cleansing" is in order? |
Enhancer |
Nov-10-05 04:02 PM |
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can I get some freedom fries with that too?? |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 04:21 PM |
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Excellent. |
Enhancer |
Nov-10-05 05:22 PM |
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"Clash of Civilizations"!! That's the book |
happydreams |
Nov-10-05 02:01 PM |
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THE NEW TOTALITARIANISM |
The Stranger |
Nov-10-05 10:13 AM |
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Yep, Great post! |
happydreams |
Nov-10-05 02:08 PM |
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Muslim Extremism has nothing to do with what the West does |
Diresu |
Nov-10-05 01:12 PM |
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France was correct in trying to stop America. They knew that the Bush |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 02:07 PM |
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France certainly did oppose the war |
Diresu |
Nov-10-05 02:54 PM |
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You will have an extremely difficult time proving that the Abu Gahrib |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 03:07 PM |
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what was the reason for 9/11 then?? |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 03:09 PM |
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Nobody denies Muslim extremism. That is a given. The Iraqi Oil |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 03:12 PM |
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nothing, but muslim extremism was there well before |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 03:21 PM |
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Don't know how you read that into my statement. I said that the Iraqi |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 03:25 PM |
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yes |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 03:30 PM |
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of course, your point is? That the Iraqi Oil War is a good thing??? |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 03:39 PM |
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of course not, but going back to the original post |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 03:44 PM |
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One last time, I never said that. I said the Iraqi Oil War fueled it. nt |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 03:45 PM |
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I think the real question you're missing is... |
Aimah |
Nov-10-05 09:06 PM |
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Where to start? |
The Stranger |
Nov-10-05 06:31 PM |
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well, Saddam is still alive |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 06:34 PM |
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Let's see: torture rooms -- check, use of chemical weapons -- check, |
The Stranger |
Nov-10-05 06:39 PM |
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true but.... |
Diresu |
Nov-10-05 03:42 PM |
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Your opinion, I guess. Everyone has one. If you believe all that has |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 03:54 PM |
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The point I think that the other posters are making |
brentspeak |
Nov-10-05 04:47 PM |
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Yes of course, that was clear. My point is that I think that they have |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 04:56 PM |
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Joseph Kony would disagree... |
Enhancer |
Nov-10-05 04:04 PM |
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Yes, and we have done the Iraqi people a horrid dis-service by |
ElectroPrincess |
Nov-10-05 04:07 PM |
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and will you be even more ashamed when there is a civil war?? |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 04:12 PM |
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There will be a civil war regardless. Staying there will only kill more |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 04:14 PM |
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with a civil war many Iraqi civilians will die |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 04:24 PM |
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That MAY be true and it MAY NOT. That is an unknown. What is a known |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 04:31 PM |
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We will decide to leave when TOO MANY of our troops have died |
ElectroPrincess |
Nov-10-05 04:22 PM |
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yes, so that means in a couple of years |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 04:28 PM |
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No, no pissing contest, but it AIN'T going to get any better ... |
ElectroPrincess |
Nov-10-05 04:52 PM |
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yes I agree |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 06:23 PM |
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Bravo Bacchus39 ... |
ElectroPrincess |
Nov-10-05 06:27 PM |
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thank you, no real disagreement I think |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 06:29 PM |
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Yes, we must try, but I don't have much hope with THIS LEADERSHIP ... |
ElectroPrincess |
Nov-10-05 06:34 PM |
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Reasons |
IA_Seth |
Nov-10-05 05:00 PM |
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are you rationalizing or justifying 9/11?? |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 06:25 PM |
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How would you explain |
Tom Bombadil |
Nov-10-05 08:39 PM |
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and how does understanding lead to victory?? |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 11:23 PM |
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The ' global war on terror' |
Tom Bombadil |
Nov-11-05 07:38 AM |
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you just said that in order to "defeat" this people |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-11-05 07:53 AM |
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Perhaps defeat was the wrong word. |
Tom Bombadil |
Nov-11-05 09:42 AM |
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LOL |
IA_Seth |
Nov-11-05 09:52 AM |
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I can answer that... |
Solon |
Nov-10-05 06:01 PM |
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you and the other poster are almost seem to be saying |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 06:26 PM |
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One way the Neocons keep the U.S. locked into the illegal wars |
The Stranger |
Nov-10-05 06:36 PM |
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and I say they are not "reasons" at all |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 06:42 PM |
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Huh?? In all seriousness. what the hell does that have to do with 9/11? nt |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 06:44 PM |
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infidels in Saudi Arabia. 1st Gulf War remember?? |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 06:47 PM |
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I seriously do not know what the "others" are telling you. Really. |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 06:56 PM |
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yes, peace I agree, |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 07:01 PM |
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Yes, but make no mistake, we disagree vehemently, absolutely, completely, |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 08:08 PM |
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so I see that |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 11:32 PM |
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Exactly! Just like Vietnam. Things only got better AFTER we left. Our |
VegasWolf |
Nov-11-05 10:54 AM |
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That sounds like a "yes" answer to my question. |
The Stranger |
Nov-10-05 06:58 PM |
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Well, it appears as if you think 1-2 MORE years of American lives |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 06:38 PM |
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and what is your plan?? is a civil war in Iraq preferable? |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 06:45 PM |
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My plan. Pull out NOW! We CANNOT win in Iraq anymore than we |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 06:52 PM |
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premature evacuation |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 06:59 PM |
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I heard that same statement what 30 years ago. Guess what? It was wrong! n |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 07:01 PM |
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No, I want to get our troops out as soon as possible ... |
ElectroPrincess |
Nov-10-05 06:47 PM |
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agreed, they can't be pulled out in time for happy hour tomorrow |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 06:49 PM |
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I know your feelings Princess! But I respectfully disagree. With Bush at |
VegasWolf |
Nov-10-05 06:59 PM |
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Understood. No offense taken, I wish we would not have gone in at all :( |
ElectroPrincess |
Nov-10-05 08:59 PM |
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Don't put words into my mouth... |
Solon |
Nov-10-05 07:22 PM |
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yet you attempt to explain it |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 07:48 PM |
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Because you were ignorant of it... |
Solon |
Nov-10-05 08:10 PM |
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of course its difficult |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 11:26 PM |
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Why do people use that excuse? |
Aimah |
Nov-10-05 09:26 PM |
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and the reason is?? |
Bacchus39 |
Nov-10-05 11:28 PM |
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Going to Paradise for What? |
Aimah |
Nov-11-05 12:40 PM |
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Thank you. |
IA_Seth |
Nov-11-05 09:47 AM |
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Of course... |
BoogDoc7 |
Nov-11-05 10:29 AM |
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What happened in France was not |
Tom Bombadil |
Nov-10-05 08:23 PM |
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Maybe this will sink home in the White House.. |
emad |
Nov-11-05 10:39 AM |
#106 |
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