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JoZbean Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-06-05 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #96
97. I don't know about rank
and I'm assuming that you're going on his being reported as a Lt. in the Massey piece for the 'couple of years'.

However, the one who died served in the first Gulf War so he's been in for awhile.

I don't know if it's the same man or not.

I'm still trying to get at the truth. I appreciate your responses.
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  -Is Jimmy Massey telling the truth about Iraq? (Marine atrocities made up?) Barrett808  Nov-06-05 12:16 PM   #0 
  - Surprise! Surprise! "Fellow Marines" disavow his comments!!  Southsideirish   Nov-06-05 12:29 PM   #1 
  - This guy sounds like he needs some SERIOUS medical help  MADem   Nov-06-05 01:02 PM   #7 
     - I agree with you. If people would read the story, they will find...  tx_dem41   Nov-06-05 01:07 PM   #9 
     - I'd love to see the RE code on his discharge certificate  MADem   Nov-06-05 01:12 PM   #12 
     - So, what are your medical credentials that allow you to make....  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 03:41 PM   #45 
        - An enormous amount of experience dealing with discharges of this  MADem   Nov-06-05 03:52 PM   #52 
           - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-06-05 05:30 PM   #69 
           - I was there then  Columbia   Nov-06-05 06:40 PM   #88 
           - He spent considerable time  lumpy   Nov-06-05 06:07 PM   #81 
     - oh yeah, you're so right. I'm sure evry American soldier in Iraq  Jara sang   Nov-06-05 02:39 PM   #17 
     - You must be responding to another post, since I never addressed..  tx_dem41   Nov-06-05 02:42 PM   #18 
        - The lying of the Busch Junta is well-documented....  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 03:29 PM   #29 
        - No....Kerry's actions were supported by eyewitness accounts.  tx_dem41   Nov-06-05 03:36 PM   #36 
           - Got the name of any of the other alleged eyewitnesses?  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 03:41 PM   #46 
              - Re-read my post.  tx_dem41   Nov-06-05 03:47 PM   #49 
                 - No, you're questioning his original story because the writer chose to...  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 05:23 PM   #67 
        - How are you so certain that Massey is lying? n/t  Jara sang   Nov-06-05 03:30 PM   #31 
           - Did you read the whole story?  tx_dem41   Nov-06-05 03:35 PM   #33 
              - Got any names?  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 03:36 PM   #37 
                 - Yes....Massey.  tx_dem41   Nov-06-05 03:38 PM   #41 
                    - Riiigghhhttt. Whatever you say. LOL.  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 03:42 PM   #47 
                       - You need to read the article--Massey himself admitted he LIED.  MADem   Nov-06-05 04:01 PM   #53 
                       - It's no use, MAdam  brentspeak   Nov-06-05 04:30 PM   #59 
                       - I know--but hey, reread the whole thread, I found out some interesting  MADem   Nov-06-05 04:47 PM   #60 
                       - And there are some in this thread who are here primarily for...  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 05:21 PM   #65 
                       - And the Post-Dispatch is completely reliable? Right. And you....  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 05:15 PM   #63 
                          - How reliable is MediaLiesDaily?  Psephos   Nov-07-05 12:06 AM   #101 
                          - They endorsed Kerry in 04, for starters  MADem   Nov-07-05 10:40 AM   #124 
                       - Why Is It So Hard  politick   Nov-07-05 12:07 PM   #133 
     - Why am I not suprised by your response. Shoot the messenger, right?  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 03:22 PM   #25 
     - When the messenger is lying....  tx_dem41   Nov-06-05 03:26 PM   #28 
        - In your opinion, the messenger is lying...sounds like you're...  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 03:34 PM   #32 
           - Nope...just using my brain.  tx_dem41   Nov-06-05 03:37 PM   #39 
              - Start verifying, and let us know how it turns out.  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 03:42 PM   #48 
                 - Lexis-Nexis is your friend.  tx_dem41   Nov-06-05 03:51 PM   #51 
                    - Fork over the names. If not, that will just continue to confirm..  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 05:37 PM   #72 
     - Maybe he's the Iraq-era Ted Sample. n/t  Mzztakable   Nov-07-05 12:07 PM   #132 
     - Have to assume you have read  lumpy   Nov-06-05 03:25 PM   #27 
     - I've read this article in half a dozen papers  MADem   Nov-06-05 03:49 PM   #50 
        - What article?  JoZbean   Nov-06-05 06:53 PM   #91 
     - None of his alleged detractors seem to have a name. Hmmmm.  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 03:36 PM   #35 
        - Yes they do, try reading the ARTICLE. n/t  MADem   Nov-06-05 04:05 PM   #54 
           - Name them.  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 05:21 PM   #66 
              - If you cannot pick the names out, I cannot help you.  MADem   Nov-07-05 10:03 AM   #115 
              - How about Jimmy Massey!  hughee99   Nov-08-05 01:20 PM   #141 
  - This line gave me a good laugh.  mirandapriestly   Nov-06-05 12:31 PM   #2 
  - It is good that he is out of the country  BareNakedLiberal   Nov-06-05 12:42 PM   #3 
  - He has had death threats.  lumpy   Nov-06-05 03:21 PM   #24 
     - How 'bout the deaths of those holding the truth about Jessica Lynch?  joeunderdog   Nov-07-05 11:35 AM   #130 
     - of course  BareNakedLiberal   Nov-07-05 12:07 PM   #134 
  - Might as well don the tinfoil  Zodiak Ironfist   Nov-06-05 12:51 PM   #4 
  - Excellent points all...  madeline_con   Nov-06-05 03:21 PM   #23 
  - There are other sources  lumpy   Nov-06-05 03:24 PM   #26 
  - Agent provocateur?  lumpy   Nov-06-05 03:37 PM   #38 
  - Well ...hell Post Dispatch  Catt03   Nov-06-05 12:51 PM   #5 
  - Blame the truth tellers. Continue the delusion and lies so people  shance   Nov-06-05 12:53 PM   #6 
  - Come on, this guy is NOT a truth teller, he is a bullshit artist!!!  MADem   Nov-06-05 01:06 PM   #8 
  - On what do you base your  lumpy   Nov-06-05 03:35 PM   #34 
  - OK, now stop putting words in my mouth--that is not what I said at all  MADem   Nov-06-05 04:21 PM   #56 
     - Why would the military  lumpy   Nov-06-05 05:33 PM   #71 
        - I do not think they did--he hung himself with his own changing stories,  MADem   Nov-07-05 09:57 AM   #111 
  - Got the names of Massey's accusers?  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 03:38 PM   #40 
     - Better yet, how about a PICTURE of one of them?  MADem   Nov-06-05 04:17 PM   #55 
        - Respectfully, you say Mr. Haviv  lumpy   Nov-06-05 05:30 PM   #68 
        - READ the damn ARTICLE. n/t  MADem   Nov-07-05 09:58 AM   #112 
           - Well, damnit, I have read the damn  lumpy   Nov-07-05 10:11 AM   #117 
              - See post 119 n/t  MADem   Nov-07-05 10:27 AM   #120 
        - And Mr. Haviv was where in Iraq, exactly? How does this story lend...  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 05:42 PM   #73 
           - Now I know you are just blowing smoke  MADem   Nov-07-05 10:01 AM   #113 
              - We're mixing up people....Harris wrote the piece, Havic wasn't quoted  JoZbean   Nov-10-05 08:20 PM   #151 
  - Read the whole story. Its pretty obvious that he is not a "truth teller".  tx_dem41   Nov-06-05 01:08 PM   #10 
     - This isn't the only source.  lumpy   Nov-06-05 03:39 PM   #43 
  - Bush and his troop are the real liars when it comes to Iraq  daleo   Nov-06-05 01:09 PM   #11 
  - Does it not bother you that Massey is obviously lying?  tx_dem41   Nov-06-05 01:13 PM   #13 
  - I am not condoning any lies this guy might be telling, if he is lying  daleo   Nov-06-05 02:50 PM   #20 
  - You are right, but idiots like this clown do NOT HELP the cause  MADem   Nov-06-05 01:14 PM   #14 
     - I guess that is why I am saying it is distraction  daleo   Nov-06-05 03:20 PM   #22 
        - I honestly do not think this guy got out after 12 years under his own  MADem   Nov-06-05 03:29 PM   #30 
           - I respect your opinion  daleo   Nov-06-05 03:39 PM   #44 
              - Turns out he was there for less than two months, shipped home on a psych  MADem   Nov-06-05 04:54 PM   #61 
                 - You personally don't know what Massey saw while he was in Iraq, do you?  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 05:45 PM   #74 
                 - And, of course, you do! n/t  MADem   Nov-07-05 09:42 AM   #107 
                 - Ron Haviv ??  lumpy   Nov-06-05 05:48 PM   #75 
                 - Haviv was EMBEDDED with Massey's unit.  MADem   Nov-07-05 09:41 AM   #106 
                    - You keep refering to Haviv  lumpy   Nov-07-05 10:02 AM   #114 
                       - Why don't YOU do a little research, then?  MADem   Nov-07-05 10:07 AM   #116 
                          - Your only argument is that you believe  lumpy   Nov-07-05 10:23 AM   #118 
                             - See post 118 n/t  MADem   Nov-07-05 10:27 AM   #121 
                                - I am familiar with post 118  lumpy   Nov-07-05 10:35 AM   #123 
                                   - Sorry, 119 (my mouse jumped)  MADem   Nov-07-05 10:43 AM   #125 
                 - Look, I'm not here to fight about it.  JoZbean   Nov-06-05 06:15 PM   #82 
                    - All well and good  MADem   Nov-07-05 09:34 AM   #105 
  - It does look as though he may be a pathological liar like Bush and Cheney.  Benhurst   Nov-06-05 01:32 PM   #15 
  - I posted this same thread in GD since it was in yesterday's paper  JoZbean   Nov-06-05 02:15 PM   #16 
  - Massey's the one with the accusations to be proven.  igil   Nov-06-05 02:49 PM   #19 
     - If he's lying, it affects the credibility of more than just Jim Massey  JoZbean   Nov-06-05 03:38 PM   #42 
        - Good point. NT  Benhurst   Nov-06-05 05:14 PM   #62 
        - The St. Louis Dispatch sure isn't neutral in red red red Missouri  0007   Nov-06-05 05:49 PM   #76 
           - Blue,blue city in a red,red state  pintobean   Nov-07-05 08:09 AM   #103 
           - They endorsed KERRY in 04  MADem   Nov-07-05 10:46 AM   #126 
              - FYI MADem  pintobean   Nov-07-05 11:44 AM   #131 
  - Plenty of sites on the net  lumpy   Nov-06-05 03:17 PM   #21 
  - Another piece of the puzzle  JoZbean   Nov-06-05 04:22 PM   #57 
  - They have this story because they had an embed with the unit  MADem   Nov-06-05 04:27 PM   #58 
  - Possibly not. But Tim Russert and Judith Miller also have world-wide  Benhurst   Nov-06-05 05:17 PM   #64 
  - Bingo.  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 05:57 PM   #79 
  - You may be right, he may not have given any dough to Bush  JoZbean   Nov-06-05 05:32 PM   #70 
  - I'm afraid we won't get the answer  lumpy   Nov-06-05 05:58 PM   #80 
  - Its quite simple actually.  tx_dem41   Nov-06-05 06:56 PM   #92 
  - Two different Kevin Sheas  Columbia   Nov-06-05 06:37 PM   #87 
  - Thanks, but that doesn't prove it was two different Sheas  JoZbean   Nov-06-05 06:57 PM   #94 
     - Lt is O-1 or O-2, LtCol is O-5  Columbia   Nov-06-05 06:59 PM   #96 
        - I don't know about rank  JoZbean   Nov-06-05 07:03 PM   #97 
           - A LtCol would never be in command of a platoon.  Columbia   Nov-06-05 07:06 PM   #99 
              - Thank you.  JoZbean   Nov-06-05 07:17 PM   #100 
  - Let's have a look at the guy who wrote the article--he is on the left  MADem   Nov-07-05 10:24 AM   # 
  - Great interview with Ed Gordon.  lumpy   Nov-07-05 11:12 AM   #129 
  - Dupe, sorry, old mouse  MADem   Nov-07-05 10:24 AM   #119 
  - As an "embed", where do you think Haviv was positioned?....  Media_Lies_Daily   Nov-06-05 05:55 PM   #77 
  - Take a few minutes, and research Haviv's career, why don't you?  MADem   Nov-07-05 09:44 AM   #108 
  - Well, we've heard a lot about Haviv  lumpy   Nov-06-05 06:26 PM   #84 
  - My agenda is to end this stupid war  MADem   Nov-07-05 09:48 AM   #110 
     - No  lumpy   Nov-07-05 10:33 AM   #122 
        - I stated my agenda, and you are dead wrong n/t  MADem   Nov-07-05 10:53 AM   #128 
  - I've just been watching the video of napalm used in Fallujua  JoZbean   Nov-07-05 07:03 PM   #136 
     - Only one embed was kicked out of Iraq in the run to Baghdad  MADem   Nov-08-05 08:44 AM   #139 
        - The thing is, MADem, we might not disagree eventually  JoZbean   Nov-08-05 05:52 PM   #142 
           - Sure. My bingos were Ron Haviv and Ron Harris, frankly  MADem   Nov-08-05 08:35 PM   #145 
  - St Louis Post Dispatch endorses Kerry in 2004  Columbia   Nov-06-05 06:26 PM   #83 
     - That helps to expand the inquiry. Thanks  JoZbean   Nov-06-05 06:32 PM   #86 
     - Lee Enterprises with Gregory P Schermer, Veep  JoZbean   Nov-06-05 06:48 PM   #90 
        - Does Mr. Schermer own Lee Enterprises?  Columbia   Nov-06-05 06:56 PM   #93 
           - I'm not discrediting the entire newspaper.....  JoZbean   Nov-06-05 06:59 PM   #95 
  - The St. Louis Dispatch sure isn't neutral in red red red Missouri  0007   Nov-06-05 05:56 PM   #78 
  - Cindy usually comes out fairly early as an indication of what's to come  JoZbean   Nov-06-05 06:29 PM   #85 
  - Not at all helpful Mr Massey  Monkey see Monkey Do   Nov-06-05 06:45 PM   #89 
  - Hell, the Right doesn't have to....  JoZbean   Nov-06-05 07:06 PM   #98 
  - We now know about all the lies the media told us about Pat Tillman  0007   Nov-07-05 02:57 AM   #102 
  - There is more truth than we want to admit...  Tiberius   Nov-07-05 08:54 AM   #104 
  - Does sound unconventional but who knows?  0007   Nov-07-05 09:47 AM   #109 
  - That is what they are, STORIES  MADem   Nov-07-05 10:51 AM   #127 
  - Wonder what he would say about Fallujah and chemical weapons  Barrett808   Nov-07-05 03:53 PM   #135 
  - Another article...  ljaycox   Nov-07-05 10:11 PM   #137 
  - Is Massey a plant?  ignatzmouse   Nov-08-05 07:02 AM   #138 
  - One has to wonder if he's a provocateur spreading disinformation. n/t  Barrett808   Nov-08-05 09:33 AM   #140 
  - Massey has responded  JoZbean   Nov-10-05 08:35 PM   #152 
  - Karl Rove poison pill--send truth with an unreliable messenger  yurbud   Nov-08-05 05:56 PM   #143 
  - or just keep saying the messenger stinks and is unreliable  MisterP   Nov-08-05 08:58 PM   #146 
  - I don't buy the smear against Massey  goodhue   Nov-08-05 05:58 PM   #144 
  - Interesting -- so would you say this story is a hit piece? n/t  Barrett808   Nov-09-05 03:11 PM   #147 
  - I'd say you all need to read this piece:  JoZbean   Nov-10-05 08:03 PM   #150 
  - Outing a liar: Hero Marine gets caught pulling a John Kerry (MT News)  Barrett808   Nov-09-05 04:00 PM   #148 
  - I will never understand the need to endorse any kook who takes our side  theboss   Nov-09-05 04:06 PM   #149 
  - Once more for good measure.......  JoZbean   Nov-10-05 08:51 PM   #153 
  - Kick  JoZbean   Nov-11-05 08:13 PM   #154 
 

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