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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-07-05 12:25 AM
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62. What you say about the French and racism
I want to make some astoundingly broad generalizations here: Would you believe that I think they are sort of just arrogant to everyone, whites and blacks, who aren't french? Have you noticed how many people around the world are not so secretly enjoying the misery the French are now undergoing? I am not talking ALL French, but enough. I noticed some of them get very aggravated with you if you don't speak with a perfect accent, if you can't make change quickly enough, if you need directions, etc. You can be Chinese, a white American or a black African; most likely they will treat you like crap. It's not racism so much as they know you aren't really French. And you know what, a second generation Algerian living there isn't French to them either, any more than a second generation Canadian living there would be. I think you have to be able to trace your family back 500 years or something to be accepted as French.

Does that bother me too much? No, because most people in most countries don't really openly accept immigrants. An immigrant in any country really has to work to fit in, to assimilate. If an immigrant group doesn't really want to assimilate, there will be nothing but problems. One can never expect the host country to bend over backwards. I ssupect there is discrimination against immigrants in every country and it should just be expected as a part of human nature. The big group doesn't like accepting the different stranger in its midst. Each group coming into America met resistance, the Irish, Chinese, Germans, Slavs, Italians, etc.
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  -Rioting Moves Inside Paris City Limit (Molotov cocktail near Gare du Nord) DeepModem Mom  Nov-05-05 10:48 PM   #0 
  - That is so sad.  applegrove   Nov-05-05 10:50 PM   #1 
  - Delete: Wrong place for post. n/t  applegrove   Nov-05-05 11:18 PM   #9 
  - OK,I give up---why burn day care centers? I don't find this sad,  GrumpyGreg   Nov-05-05 10:59 PM   #2 
  - I find it very suspicious  Catrina   Nov-05-05 11:04 PM   #3 
  - I agree.  mgdecombe   Nov-05-05 11:08 PM   #4 
  - CIA ?  wookie294   Nov-05-05 11:09 PM   #5 
  - Aren't the French investigating Cheney and Halliburton?  DebJ   Nov-05-05 11:17 PM   #8 
  - Yes, a French judge is investigating Halliburton bribes in Nigeria  wookie294   Nov-05-05 11:20 PM   #10 
  - I find it sad that France and other parts of Europe have such a  applegrove   Nov-05-05 11:20 PM   #11 
  - The Native Americans had their land stolen from them  Darranar   Nov-06-05 07:44 AM   #44 
     - Hmm. Yes that was my point. I was being sardonic in my comparison  applegrove   Nov-06-05 03:27 PM   #57 
  - Agitators With Competing Philosophies  Crisco   Nov-06-05 07:06 AM   #37 
  - I didn't want to sound 'tin-foil', .but this is all too sudden & organized  zann725   Nov-06-05 09:48 AM   #53 
  - There were a bunch of people looking for a spark for their anger  barb162   Nov-06-05 11:27 PM   #60 
  - From my experience in West Africa it adds up perfectly  senegal1   Nov-06-05 10:04 AM   #54 
     - What you say about the French and racism  barb162   Nov-07-05 12:25 AM   #62 
  - And day care centers and schools in the poor neighborhoods?  mgdecombe   Nov-05-05 11:09 PM   #6 
  - I agree  Catrina   Nov-05-05 11:24 PM   #12 
  - The CIA has financed riots in the past  wookie294   Nov-05-05 11:31 PM   #15 
     - Example  wookie294   Nov-05-05 11:45 PM   #16 
     - Get real  LiberteToujours   Nov-06-05 03:47 AM   #31 
        - Agreed  YapiYapo   Nov-06-05 07:13 AM   #39 
           - Thank you for this post, from near the scene, YapiYapo. nt  DeepModem Mom   Nov-06-05 07:31 AM   #41 
           - Of course Bush and the CIA are behind this uprising  Poppyseedman   Nov-06-05 08:17 AM   #47 
              - In the past,the CIA has promoted violence by poor & disenfranchised people  wookie294   Nov-06-05 08:30 AM   #48 
                 - I know the CIA do covert operation to disrupt regime unfriendly to the USA  Poppyseedman   Nov-06-05 09:05 AM   #49 
                 - The CIA doesn't need to have "influence" over radical Muslims  wookie294   Nov-06-05 09:17 AM   #50 
                    - Radical groups will take money from any source,  Poppyseedman   Nov-06-05 09:38 AM   #51 
                       - Yep !  wookie294   Nov-06-05 09:43 AM   #52 
                 - Like so many coincidences before, this does seem to be a  smirkymonkey   Nov-06-05 07:01 PM   #58 
  - I'm reminded of inner city riots in the 60s.  Lindsay   Nov-05-05 11:26 PM   #13 
     - True, but his is spreading throughout  Catrina   Nov-05-05 11:30 PM   #14 
  - Mob violence  whoretaculture   Nov-05-05 11:14 PM   #7 
     - French revolution  wildcat78   Nov-05-05 11:54 PM   #18 
     - Jean Val Jean  whoretaculture   Nov-06-05 12:01 AM   #19 
     - The tree of liberty  wildcat78   Nov-06-05 12:18 AM   #22 
        - Refresh, thank you n/t  whoretaculture   Nov-06-05 01:18 AM   #27 
     - The Bastille was a daycare centre?  Dutch   Nov-06-05 03:58 AM   #32 
     - Even their contemporaries of the American Revolution  tritsofme   Nov-06-05 04:12 AM   #34 
     - The French Revolution was mob violence, often of the worst  LostinVA   Nov-06-05 07:01 AM   #36 
     - Thanks for your post, and welcome to DU!  DeepModem Mom   Nov-06-05 07:32 AM   #42 
  - Whose side are we on, in the battle between  sirjohn   Nov-05-05 11:47 PM   #17 
  - Are they in fact, socialists?  billbuckhead   Nov-06-05 12:05 AM   #20 
  - Are you volunteering space in your neighborhood?  sirjohn   Nov-06-05 12:17 AM   #21 
     - It's doubtful that they could afford to live in Buckhead.  QC   Nov-06-05 10:05 AM   #55 
  - I vote oligarchy,  whoretaculture   Nov-06-05 12:20 AM   #23 
  - do you know ANYTHING about socialism? nt  arcos   Nov-06-05 06:25 AM   #35 
  - Welcome to DU, sirjohn.  DeepModem Mom   Nov-06-05 07:35 AM   #43 
  - Well, I'll say it, the French should have cracked down on this days ago  sleipnir   Nov-06-05 01:01 AM   #24 
  - I agree completely  tocqueville   Nov-06-05 02:46 AM   #30 
  - What's really scarry is that this could happen here.....  WCGreen   Nov-06-05 01:05 AM   #25 
  - would be somewhat different, in the US  rfkrfk   Nov-06-05 07:13 AM   #38 
  - yes it can...and in the past it has...remember the LA riots & rodney king  flyarm   Nov-06-05 07:16 AM   #40 
  - I was running for congress at the time here in Cleveland...  WCGreen   Nov-06-05 07:49 AM   #46 
  - why *here*, specifically?  NorthernSpy   Nov-06-05 10:26 AM   #56 
  - Seems to me more pushing the antisemitism angle there.  Carolab   Nov-06-05 01:08 AM   #26 
  - Please, do explain.  Colorado Blue   Nov-06-05 11:14 PM   #59 
  - European Trends: A Ten Country Comparison  barb162   Nov-07-05 12:02 AM   #61 
  - Everything, even oppression, is relative...  Pooka Fey   Nov-06-05 01:46 AM   #28 
  - Police arrest dozens as French urban violence flares again (AFP)  Up2Late   Nov-06-05 02:11 AM   #29 
  - Over 1,200 Cars Torched in France Last Night  Olive   Nov-06-05 04:11 AM   #33 
  - don't be 'downwind' of a riot  rfkrfk   Nov-06-05 07:45 AM   #45 
  - locking  maddezmom   Nov-07-05 12:50 AM   #63 

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