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68. Utah Struggles With a Revival of Polygamy (August 23, 1998)
... What has fueled the issue of polygamy statewide as well as nationally is the case of a 16-year-old girl who stumbled into a remote gas station in northern Utah this summer. Covered with fresh bruises on her legs, arms and buttocks, authorities said the girl had run seven miles through the night, fleeing her father's belt and the future he had ordained for her: marriage to her uncle, and life as his 15th wife ...

Ms. Erickson said that John Daniel Kingston had fathered 10 children with a half-sister and that the 16-year-old girl who fled was his eldest child. Identified only by her initials, M.N., she testified in late July in court here that last fall she had been secretly married against her will to an uncle, David Kingston. After she ran away twice, she said, her father drove her 80 miles north of here to a ranch that the clan uses for disciplining what it considers wayward women and children ...

This year, the Utah Legislature raised the age for statutory rape to 17 from 16. Next year, the Legislature is expected to raise the minimum marriage age to 16 from 14 ...

http://www.ishipress.com/utah-pol.htm
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  -Utah judge with 3 wives fights for job ECH1969  Nov-02-05 12:32 PM   #0 
  - It's not called "plural marriage" it's called bigamy.  CottonBear   Nov-02-05 12:35 PM   #1 
  - thats really the important question, how the hell did he got on any bench?  chimpsrsmarter   Nov-02-05 12:36 PM   #2 
  - Moral turpitude.  LiberalEsto   Nov-02-05 12:42 PM   #4 
  - sorry, it is, in fact, polygamy (one male, several females) and it is  niyad   Nov-02-05 12:58 PM   #15 
  - well if I call my other half my "husband" even though we're not  sui generis   Nov-02-05 01:13 PM   #20 
  - Mormon marriage  oneold1-4u   Nov-02-05 01:05 PM   #16 
     - Plus the plural wives and offspring live off public funds.  anitar1   Nov-02-05 01:17 PM   #22 
     - Of course, it went semi-underground  LostinVA   Nov-03-05 06:09 AM   #62 
  - well now this is sticky for me  sui generis   Nov-02-05 12:41 PM   #3 
  - I suppose it's not illegal to live with your spouse and other lovers too.  CottonBear   Nov-02-05 12:43 PM   #6 
  - as far as I know adultery isn't "illegal" except in the military  sui generis   Nov-02-05 12:54 PM   #13 
     - What he is doing IS illegal in Utah - cohabitation = bigamy under Utah Law  Shallah   Nov-04-05 04:39 AM   #71 
  - Me too.  Norquist Nemesis   Nov-02-05 12:47 PM   #9 
  - Thank you for your consistant viewpoint on the subject  mongo   Nov-02-05 01:06 PM   #17 
  - There's no law against living with whomever you wish  JerseygirlCT   Nov-02-05 02:17 PM   #35 
  - IIRC, it is illegal under Utah law for unmarried people to have sex  Walt Starr   Nov-02-05 02:33 PM   #39 
  - I am flying there right now and breaking the law all over the damn place  sui generis   Nov-02-05 03:04 PM   #43 
  - They were starting to enforce it against teenagers a while back  Walt Starr   Nov-02-05 03:09 PM   #45 
  - Seriously?  JerseygirlCT   Nov-02-05 07:39 PM   #51 
  - but . . . you can't legally marry more than one person  sui generis   Nov-02-05 03:10 PM   #46 
  - I agree, he could work to change the law. nt  pokercat999   Nov-02-05 03:43 PM   #50 
  - A guy who is an admitted bigamist should NOT be a judge  SoCalDem   Nov-02-05 02:31 PM   #38 
     - And neither should anyone who drives over the speed limit  sui generis   Nov-02-05 03:15 PM   #48 
     - To compare a past offense with a long-term current one is silly.  Kailassa   Nov-03-05 06:23 AM   #65 
     - I don't think he is a bigamist  LostinVA   Nov-03-05 06:11 AM   #63 
  - How much you wanna bet he's anti gay marriage? n/t  The Witch   Nov-02-05 12:42 PM   #5 
  - I'll bet he is  saigon68   Nov-02-05 12:45 PM   #7 
  - Ew! The three wives are biological sisters. Yuck, ick, bleh! n/t  CottonBear   Nov-02-05 12:46 PM   #8 
  - Wha??????????  Jacobin   Nov-02-05 12:54 PM   #12 
  - That is what the CNN article says  missb   Nov-02-05 02:38 PM   #40 
  - How very Biblical of him  Hekate   Nov-03-05 02:22 AM   #56 
  - As long as all members are over 18 and mentally competent  wuushew   Nov-02-05 12:49 PM   #10 
  - If he has one legal wife and two girlfriends then it's not polygamy.  CottonBear   Nov-02-05 01:32 PM   #25 
  - It's a personal choice  CityDem   Nov-02-05 01:37 PM   #30 
  - nominate him for the Supreme Court  Betty   Nov-02-05 12:50 PM   #11 
  - If it took a 14-month investigation to found out he had three spouses  rocknation   Nov-02-05 12:55 PM   #14 
  - if Utah state law doesn't recognize multiple wives then  sui generis   Nov-02-05 01:09 PM   #18 
  - My post originally said "three wives"--I changed it to "spouses"  rocknation   Nov-02-05 01:19 PM   #23 
  - If the US government stepped in -  oneold1-4u   Nov-02-05 01:16 PM   #21 
     - I think the ones that they do actually jail are  sui generis   Nov-02-05 01:32 PM   #26 
  - Dammit, marriage should be between one man and one, uh 2, no, 3 women!  auburngrad82   Nov-02-05 01:10 PM   #19 
  - How much you want to bet he collects welfare for the kids too?  devilgrrl   Nov-02-05 01:25 PM   #24 
  - He's breaking the law.  Dulcinea   Nov-02-05 01:33 PM   #27 
  - The law is whatever the politicians say it is  ECH1969   Nov-02-05 01:36 PM   #28 
  - yes, and I'm living with a guy, a dog, and two cats  sui generis   Nov-02-05 01:38 PM   #31 
  - no he's not  sui generis   Nov-02-05 01:37 PM   #29 
     - whoa...really?  JusticeForAll   Nov-02-05 02:17 PM   #36 
        - Constitutionally illegal  sui generis   Nov-02-05 02:51 PM   #42 
  - Its only two wives more than legally allowed after all!  zara   Nov-02-05 01:55 PM   #32 
  - He is probably one of bushies choices for SCOTUS.  jwirr   Nov-02-05 02:05 PM   #33 
  - .....  uniden   Nov-02-05 02:10 PM   #34 
  - Who in their right mind would want more than one???  truebrit71   Nov-02-05 02:25 PM   #37 
  - Actually he only legally married one so I am not sure he can be ousted.  yellowcanine   Nov-02-05 02:45 PM   #41 
  - I believe that Utah still has a law against adultery  Shallah   Nov-03-05 02:44 AM   #58 
  - What a Freak.  Megahurtz   Nov-02-05 03:09 PM   #44 
  - Judge STEED?  Writer   Nov-02-05 03:12 PM   #47 
  - did he 'legally' get married to them all?  kineta   Nov-02-05 03:18 PM   #49 
  - Religious marriage and marriage-license marriage are different  Hekate   Nov-03-05 02:36 AM   #57 
  - The Rational Basis For Anti-Polygamy Laws  struggle4progress   Nov-02-05 09:12 PM   #52 
  - that's the same argument against homosexuality and gay marriage  silverpatronus   Nov-03-05 12:42 AM   #54 
     - Utah Struggles With a Revival of Polygamy (August 23, 1998)  struggle4progress   Nov-03-05 07:30 AM   #68 
  - These Mormon fundamentalists are notorious for incest, child rape  kestrel91316   Nov-03-05 12:24 AM   #53 
  - he could just sell a couple -but he might get a human trafficking ticket  NIGHT TRIPPER   Nov-03-05 01:55 AM   #55 
  - Has Santorum or another 'gay marriage leads to polygamy'-er condemned this  Shallah   Nov-03-05 02:55 AM   #59 
  - ICK! 3 wives are sisters! He has 32 kids. Utah law - Cohabitation=Bigamy  Shallah   Nov-03-05 03:02 AM   #60 
  - joe smith got caught fooling around  DiverDave   Nov-03-05 04:10 AM   #61 
  - Yup.... you're right about all of it...  LostinVA   Nov-03-05 06:19 AM   #64 
     - How many women did the OT david have?  ErisFiveFingers   Nov-04-05 06:04 AM   #72 
  - WTF???  Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel   Nov-03-05 06:42 AM   #66 
  - Dismissed! He Ought to Be In Jail!  Demeter   Nov-03-05 07:23 AM   #67 
  - Coming from a man who considers his self plurally married,  William Bloode   Nov-03-05 09:14 AM   #69 
  - usually not judgemental of DU but  sui generis   Nov-03-05 12:18 PM   #70 
  - Man, the arrogance of some people. eh?  DiverDave   Nov-04-05 08:45 AM   #73 
  - This reminds of me of the old joke...  cshldoc   Nov-04-05 09:08 AM   #74 
 

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