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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-15-05 03:57 PM
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23. It's already online, as is Miller's article. >
She doesn't recall, can't recall, etc. Oh, except that Plame's name did NOT come from Scooter. Of that, she's certain.

She didn't flip -- she lied. Fitz got nothing.
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  -NYT: The Miller Case: From a Name on a Pad to Jail nixonwasbetterthanW  Oct-15-05 03:23 PM   #0 
  - bullshit-- let me be among the first to call it....  mike_c   Oct-15-05 03:31 PM   #1 
  - as a former journalist  thinkingwoman   Oct-15-05 03:46 PM   #7 
  - and you'll certainly recall that anything you wanted to use...  mike_c   Oct-15-05 03:56 PM   #22 
  - the NYT needs to remember  thinkingwoman   Oct-15-05 04:39 PM   #44 
  - I echo that, myself.  calimary   Oct-15-05 04:03 PM   #30 
  - my notebook  thinkingwoman   Oct-15-05 04:43 PM   #48 
     - Is she canny enough to pass a polygraph?  Dr_eldritch   Oct-15-05 06:00 PM   #81 
  - What do you think about the fact that the name "Valerie Flame" stood alone  8_year_nightmare   Oct-15-05 04:12 PM   #32 
  - Reverse it ... Flame Valerie - her instructions from the WH.  djmaddox1   Oct-15-05 04:35 PM   #42 
  - I'd say  thinkingwoman   Oct-15-05 04:46 PM   # 
  - see my post above (#48) nt  thinkingwoman   Oct-15-05 04:45 PM   #50 
  - I think she just misheard it the first time....  mike_c   Oct-15-05 04:46 PM   #53 
     - nope, journalists always ask for spelling  thinkingwoman   Oct-15-05 04:49 PM   #55 
        - Plus, they are expert linguists. What they write is what they mean.  8_year_nightmare   Oct-15-05 05:25 PM   #72 
           - also true. good point. nt  thinkingwoman   Oct-15-05 05:27 PM   #74 
           - All jounalists are expert linguists  JoFerret   Oct-16-05 06:42 AM   #111 
  - She is still afraid of Libby.  janx   Oct-15-05 04:32 PM   #41 
  - she should be afraid  thinkingwoman   Oct-15-05 04:50 PM   #57 
     - Afraid? She had email from Kelly.  aquart   Oct-15-05 05:26 PM   #73 
        - Is this Kelly?  ahimsa   Oct-15-05 08:46 PM   #100 
        - Never mind  ahimsa   Oct-15-05 08:52 PM   #102 
           - Kelly is the so-called suicide in Blair's bit of treason.  aquart   Oct-15-05 10:15 PM   #104 
        - ...and that he wanted to get back to  EuroObserver   Oct-16-05 03:04 AM   #107 
  - As a former journalist, me neither. And I usually made sure I spelled  Hissyspit   Oct-15-05 04:42 PM   #47 
     - I didn't know you were a journalist too  thinkingwoman   Oct-15-05 04:48 PM   #54 
     - What's weird  Marie26   Oct-15-05 06:11 PM   #88 
        - Nothing weird about it.  Straight Shooter   Oct-15-05 10:44 PM   #106 
  - Yes, She could have given the jury the name.  aquart   Oct-15-05 05:32 PM   #76 
  - "W.M.D. - I got it totally wrong," she said.  DoYouEverWonder   Oct-15-05 03:31 PM   #2 
  - Even if we could believe that she is sincere in her comments--  janx   Oct-15-05 03:53 PM   #21 
  - Not everyone was wrong...  punpirate   Oct-15-05 04:02 PM   #29 
  - Got It Wrong With Pleasure  otohara   Oct-15-05 04:04 PM   #31 
  - Judy's full of shit again. Those who took dictation from the folks  Garbo 2004   Oct-15-05 04:18 PM   #34 
  - Excellent article.....  Tennessee Gal   Oct-16-05 05:29 AM   #109 
  - I'm sitting here in Houston, Texas with no  TexasLawyer   Oct-15-05 06:01 PM   #82 
  - heh. Valerie Flame. ms. miller is covering up for libby and the evidence  truthisfreedom   Oct-15-05 03:34 PM   #3 
  - No, Miller is covering up for Cheney  IndianaGreen   Oct-15-05 05:24 PM   #71 
     - Exactly  Blasphemer   Oct-15-05 06:20 PM   #89 
  - Flame is right! She's a flamig liar! n/t  Talismom   Oct-15-05 03:37 PM   #4 
  - They Were Trying to Plant WMD's and Got Busted!  stepnw1f   Oct-15-05 03:40 PM   #5 
  - B.S. She is supposed to be a professional. Professionals make  higher class   Oct-15-05 03:45 PM   #6 
  - They also remember that notebooks exist!!  Athame   Oct-16-05 03:28 AM   #108 
  - Judy Miller is a liar and a traitor and the NYT is complicit. nm  texpatriot2004   Oct-15-05 03:47 PM   #8 
  - I disagree about the Times  worldgonekrazy   Oct-15-05 05:41 PM   #77 
     - Have you researched the connection. I have. n.t  texpatriot2004   Oct-15-05 05:43 PM   #78 
     - Agreed not complicit but negligent  JoFerret   Oct-16-05 07:05 AM   #112 
  - Toward the end of the article this tidbit  OKNancy   Oct-15-05 03:49 PM   #9 
  - Ah, the old "time off"  Mojorabbit   Oct-15-05 03:57 PM   # 
  - We should protest the bestowing of this award to a scum like Miller  IndianaGreen   Oct-15-05 04:01 PM   #28 
  - whoa, brother  Ellen Forradalom   Oct-15-05 06:27 PM   #92 
  - Society of Professional Journalists  chat_noir   Oct-15-05 04:51 PM   #58 
  - Is Sulzberger banging Judith Miller?  IndianaGreen   Oct-15-05 03:52 PM   #10 
  - I agree, Mr Sulzberger allowed uncontested oversight that brought great  mod mom   Oct-15-05 06:25 PM   #91 
     - Possible AIPAC - Miller connection?  Marie26   Oct-15-05 06:42 PM   #94 
     - WOW that was quite a bit to digest. Why would AIPAC have ties w Chalabi +  mod mom   Oct-15-05 08:12 PM   #98 
     - Fire Sultzberger?  JoFerret   Oct-16-05 07:07 AM   #113 
  - Reporter in leak case to take leave of absence effective immediately  rawstory   Oct-15-05 03:53 PM   #11 
  - Trouble in the Miller camp, perhaps?  file83   Oct-15-05 03:53 PM   #12 
  - NOW it's getting interesting....  mike_c   Oct-15-05 03:53 PM   #13 
  - buh-bye Judy  proud patriot   Oct-15-05 03:53 PM   #14 
  - To cluster with the Aspens? n/t  Mika   Oct-15-05 03:53 PM   #15 
  - Judy Miller and Robert Novak can make a date for bridge.  TheBorealAvenger   Oct-15-05 03:53 PM   #17 
  - She's baggage to the NYT now.  katinmn   Oct-15-05 03:53 PM   #16 
  - Scram Gravy Ain't Wavy  SoDesuKa   Oct-15-05 04:00 PM   #25 
  - Miller and Sulzberger should both be fired!  IndianaGreen   Oct-15-05 04:29 PM   #37 
  - Doubtful.  janx   Oct-15-05 04:19 PM   #35 
  - Nothing new here, this is reported in the New York Times  OKNancy   Oct-15-05 03:53 PM   #18 
  - If I belonged to SPJ I would resign in protest  katinmn   Oct-15-05 04:01 PM   #26 
  - Makes tomorrow's NYT mea culpa a notch more interesting.  leveymg   Oct-15-05 03:53 PM   #19 
  - It's already online, as is Miller's article. >  mr_hat   Oct-15-05 03:57 PM   #23 
     - I wouldn't bet on that. n/t  janx   Oct-15-05 04:27 PM   #36 
     - Not true. Fitz got Scooter for perjury.  leveymg   Oct-15-05 04:44 PM   #49 
     - Her belatedly discovered notes were from June 23 meeting with Libby. n/t  Garbo 2004   Oct-15-05 05:15 PM   #66 
        - That's correct. Point still applies.  leveymg   Oct-15-05 05:19 PM   #68 
     - LOL, please don't tell me you are taking this article as truth!  Spazito   Oct-15-05 04:55 PM   #61 
  - There "she" goes...  shance   Oct-15-05 03:53 PM   #20 
  - But is it a sign of things to come?  Orsino   Oct-15-05 04:49 PM   #56 
  - "Until WE decide"???? Not till SHE decides?  aquart   Oct-15-05 05:31 PM   #75 
  - Good riddance!  jasmeel   Oct-15-05 07:45 PM   #97 
  - Here is the direct link  OKNancy   Oct-15-05 03:58 PM   #24 
  - ROFLMAO! Ya just gotta love this little tidbit at the very end of  Spazito   Oct-15-05 04:30 PM   #38 
  - That's precious  thinkingwoman   Oct-15-05 04:53 PM   #60 
  - Libby's letter to her is still open to interpretation.  8_year_nightmare   Oct-15-05 04:31 PM   #39 
  - The letter did its job. It was clear to Judy that Libby expected  janx   Oct-15-05 04:40 PM   #45 
     - I read her response regarding her agreeing that Libby might have been  Spazito   Oct-15-05 04:52 PM   #59 
     - Possible meanings of Aspen reference  worldgonekrazy   Oct-15-05 05:59 PM   #80 
        - LOL at 'off his damn rocker', if he isn't, he is well on his way  Spazito   Oct-15-05 06:06 PM   #87 
     - I agree. Thanks, janx.  8_year_nightmare   Oct-15-05 05:21 PM   #69 
        - Ha! That first one is a keeper.  janx   Oct-16-05 02:55 PM   #118 
  - What we are to believe she just happened to be in Wyoming and ran into  mod mom   Oct-15-05 08:57 PM   #103 
  - She failed her duty and the entire country. NYT might have best sale of  Seansky   Oct-15-05 04:01 PM   #27 
  - Ah, so the ASPENS were not lost on Ms. Judy:  janx   Oct-15-05 04:17 PM   #33 
  - Ya know, there might be other reasons she's protecting Libby ...  Kablooie   Oct-15-05 04:31 PM   #40 
  - The "found" notes from Libby-Miller meeting 6/23/03 is barely mentioned.  leveymg   Oct-15-05 04:37 PM   #43 
  - One can only assume Miller is NOT telling the truth and go from  Spazito   Oct-15-05 04:42 PM   #46 
  - Could this be the mention?  janx   Oct-15-05 04:46 PM   #52 
  - Someone here predicted exactly this about the notebook  shockingelk   Oct-15-05 06:02 PM   #83 
  - I suspect she's lying about what she told Fitz  worldgonekrazy   Oct-15-05 06:04 PM   #85 
  - of course not  Halliburton   Oct-15-05 06:37 PM   #93 
  - She wouldn't tell them  Marie26   Oct-15-05 07:15 PM   #95 
  - eight-pages of hot air...  stillcool47   Oct-15-05 04:45 PM   #51 
  - Time off means that...  Disturbed   Oct-15-05 05:11 PM   #65 
  - This part is interesting  lwfern   Oct-15-05 05:00 PM   #62 
  - couldn't handle carefully when a certain person who got a free pass  savemefromdumbya   Oct-15-05 05:21 PM   #70 
  - "Judy, it's Scooter Libby."  Patsy Stone   Oct-15-05 05:06 PM   #63 
  - She is a liar but Libby, I think, is cooked, to the point that Fitz does  Bumblebee   Oct-15-05 05:10 PM   #64 
  - I agree completely. Her article makes it pretty clear. n/t  snippy   Oct-15-05 06:03 PM   #84 
  - CAN"T RECALL WHO?  savemefromdumbya   Oct-15-05 05:18 PM   #67 
  - So she went to jail for 85 days for what?  Maggie_May   Oct-15-05 05:51 PM   #79 
  - Does this not constitute a thinly veiled allusion to a coming firing?:  confludemocrat   Oct-15-05 06:05 PM   #86 
  - Here's my favorite part from the Daily Kos discussion  Bumblebee   Oct-15-05 06:21 PM   #90 
  - The investigation started 2 years ago not last month..  Princess Turandot   Oct-15-05 07:32 PM   #96 
  - We still don't know what Fitz knows. I think he has them. I hope I  demgrrrll   Oct-15-05 08:17 PM   #99 
  - "Valerie Flame" "Valerie Wilson" "Valerie Plame"  lovuian   Oct-15-05 08:49 PM   #101 
  - What is Operation Mockingbird?  Marie26   Oct-16-05 12:43 PM   #116 
     - Operation Mockingbird  uhhuh   Oct-16-05 02:52 PM   #117 
        - Thanks  Marie26   Oct-16-05 07:09 PM   #120 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Oct-15-05 10:19 PM   #105 
  - Ms Run Amok (aka Judith Miller)  JoFerret   Oct-16-05 06:38 AM   #110 
  - No way in hell can I post what I want in reply  entanglement   Oct-16-05 07:50 AM   #114 
  - Sure Judith  are_we_united_yet   Oct-16-05 07:54 AM   #115 
  - Judy, maybe he's just not that into you?  Patsy Stone   Oct-16-05 06:22 PM   #119 
 

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