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106. Clark opposes trickle down economics
He often speaks out against the theory. And as a Master in Economics from Oxford and a former lecturer in Economics at West Point, he has quite definite views on economic theory.

This is from a recent speech at Rider Uni, NYC:

... what I see in President Bush's economic policy is he's tilted too far in favor of promoting people with a lot of money at the expense of ordinary Americans. I'll give you an example.

I was on an airplane coming out of Little Rock and a woman right next to me- she's a young woman, attractively dressed, and, um, we were in one of these little tiny jets, so it was pretty hard not to say hello. (crowd chuckles) And she said she's to Tulsa to sell medical equipment and she was maybe in her late 20's, and so we began to talk about things. And so, it was just after the Bush tax cuts had been passed and I asked her if she understood- I said, "Did you get a tax cut?" She said, "Oh yes, I sure did." I said, "Can you (inaudible) tell me how much it was?" She said, "I think I got, you know, 30 or 40 dollars a month." I said, "Well, do you understand that some people got tens of thousands of dollars, millions of dollars out of this tax cut?" She says, "Well no, I didn't really think about that."

I said, "Do you understand what that means?" She said, "Well, we were taught in school that you have to give money wealthy people, because they're the ones that make jobs for the rest of us." (crowd chuckles) And I said, "Well, who taught you that?" (laughter) She said, "Well, our economics professor did at Southern(?) State University."

And I mean, it is a set of ideas called trickle-down economics. And, but you know I'm out there for this every day in the economy. And so I go out there to see my friends in Aspen and their house prices have quadrupled in four years. Along the North Carolina coast, and Cape Cod, on the Pacific coast, and all resort areas where people want to live house prices are way up. Some people say it's the lower interest rate, but that accounts for places across the country. I'm talking about desirable locations. What that money does is that money gets spent on high priced real estate, running up the prices. It gets put in savings accounts, and it gets used in investments abroad and luxury trips and so forth.

If you want to create jobs in this country, you gotta get ordinary people enough money to meet their basic needs. That's the way America got to be a great economy and that's what we've got to do if we're going to keep it a great economy. So, I disagree with President Bush...


transcript Rider Uni

To say Clark believes in trickle down economics is to claim exactly the opposite of what he believes and has made quite clear many times.

I honestly believe people form views on Clark based on what they think a former general would believe. Liberals of all people should be sensitive to stereotyping, but it seems there are some shocking blind spots.

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  -Experts debate War; Clark, Eagleburger, and Albright spar over Iraq FrenchieCat  Oct-13-05 02:44 AM   #0 
  - I like Clark...  purduejake   Oct-13-05 02:50 AM   #1 
  - Clark needs to talk to Carl Levin.  EST   Oct-13-05 03:30 AM   #4 
  - "It is their problem and our patience is not infinite."  LynnTheDem   Oct-13-05 05:24 AM   #7 
  - Gen. Wesley Clark, that is !  TheBorealAvenger   Oct-13-05 05:35 AM   #8 
  - Did you see the thing about Levin, the other day?  EST   Oct-13-05 06:25 AM   #10 
  - The vast majority wanted us out 2.5 years ago.  LynnTheDem   Oct-13-05 07:56 AM   #18 
  - Ummm-you're preaching to the choir, here.  EST   Oct-13-05 09:57 AM   #21 
  - Re: Levin. Clark had comments along these lines back during the summer  Gloria   Oct-13-05 10:56 PM   #68 
     - The Iraqis need to start giving a 100%  Donna Zen   Oct-14-05 10:31 AM   #80 
        - Thanks for the clue as I hunt for this segment!! I tape chronologically  Gloria   Oct-14-05 04:49 PM   #82 
  - Self-delete  tabasco   Oct-13-05 03:05 PM   #48 
  - Time Line vs Foreswearing--No Permanent Bases  Donna Zen   Oct-13-05 10:33 AM   #29 
  - Well said-I can add little.  EST   Oct-14-05 08:43 PM   #86 
  - Levin and Clark ARE Talking & They Are Both Proceeding Accordingly  cryingshame   Oct-13-05 07:20 PM   #52 
     - Thanks-That's comforting.  EST   Oct-14-05 08:45 PM   #87 
  - It's not that he doesn't want to establish a timeline, it's that he  Boo Boo   Oct-13-05 07:02 AM   #14 
  - so, negotiate with the Baathists already  LatinoSocialist   Oct-13-05 07:08 AM   #16 
     - Obviously, Bush doesn't do negotiations.  Boo Boo   Oct-13-05 07:15 AM   #17 
     - Re: negotiating.....Article by Jim Lobe about Rice...seems to say that  Gloria   Oct-13-05 11:04 PM   #70 
     - I never get over the fact  calmblueocean   Oct-14-05 08:21 AM   #76 
        - Perhaps...  CarolNYC   Oct-15-05 10:26 AM   #97 
     - YES YES YES.  LynnTheDem   Oct-13-05 08:02 AM   #19 
  - Clark wants an Exit Strategy....  FrenchieCat   Oct-13-05 09:38 AM   #20 
  - how does Clark know that OBL is alive? n/t  rfkrfk   Oct-13-05 03:00 AM   #2 
  - Because OBL is alive until otherwise shown......duh!  FrenchieCat   Oct-13-05 09:59 AM   #22 
  - because until he is laid out on a slab, he is alive.  roguevalley   Oct-13-05 03:18 AM   #3 
  - Come on Wes! Why not a time line??  leftchick   Oct-13-05 05:03 AM   #5 
  - A timeline is not a magic bullet.....  FrenchieCat   Oct-13-05 10:06 AM   #23 
  - So, when the Shrub announces a timeline  Texas_Kat   Oct-13-05 10:22 AM   #27 
  - "constitution" is evidence bush's efforts are paying off??? WTF???  LynnTheDem   Oct-13-05 05:22 AM   #6 
  - It figures Albright and Eagleburger...  lateo   Oct-13-05 06:07 AM   #9 
  - Changing ideologies and minds  mia   Oct-13-05 06:31 AM   #11 
  - i've always said it,  LatinoSocialist   Oct-13-05 07:03 AM   #15 
     - Yeah.....  FrenchieCat   Oct-13-05 10:15 AM   #24 
     - no wait,  LatinoSocialist   Oct-13-05 01:14 PM   #38 
        - Infallibility??  ICantBelieve   Oct-13-05 02:39 PM   #47 
        - I don't think that...  CarolNYC   Oct-13-05 10:08 PM   #64 
     - You don't introduce new "ideologies" behind the barrel of a gun..."  CarolNYC   Oct-13-05 09:59 PM   #62 
  - Enablers all....  pokercat999   Oct-13-05 06:57 AM   #12 
  - General Clark chose sides long ago.....  FrenchieCat   Oct-13-05 10:17 AM   #26 
  - Photo-op.  pokercat999   Oct-13-05 07:12 PM   #50 
     - For a DUer  Donna Zen   Oct-13-05 08:00 PM   #54 
     - Wow.....  FrenchieCat   Oct-13-05 08:29 PM   #56 
  - Clark was one of the first to testify to Congress against war (2002)  robbedvoter   Oct-13-05 02:35 PM   #46 
  - Clark's testimony was very sensible.  BikeWriter   Oct-13-05 05:34 PM   #49 
  - YUK....how could you even use a source like Limbaugh for anything  FrenchieCat   Oct-13-05 08:31 PM   #57 
     - Look again. The site is a slam on the Oxycontin King.  BikeWriter   Oct-13-05 10:04 PM   #63 
  - Was the quote correct? Was he advocating killing  pokercat999   Oct-13-05 07:16 PM   #51 
     - "Was he advocating....  CarolNYC   Oct-13-05 10:13 PM   #65 
  - I hope that quote is incorrect if not he's one and the same with *.  cryingshame   Oct-13-05 07:26 PM   #53 
  - please...  LatinoSocialist   Oct-13-05 07:00 AM   #13 
  - Exactly:  Donna Zen   Oct-13-05 10:15 AM   #25 
  - Righto! and I would add......  FrenchieCat   Oct-13-05 10:25 AM   #28 
  - Put the the heat on THEM  Donna Zen   Oct-13-05 10:40 AM   #30 
  - Like you're stating.....  FrenchieCat   Oct-13-05 10:47 AM   #31 
     - Even better  Donna Zen   Oct-13-05 11:02 AM   #32 
  - Vitenam wasn't winnable. There is no "realistic" or "effective" policy  1932   Oct-13-05 01:12 PM   #37 
  - I agree with Wes'  LatinoSocialist   Oct-13-05 01:22 PM   #39 
     - Agreed that we lost when we invaded.....  FrenchieCat   Oct-13-05 02:18 PM   #42 
     - "We lost the moment we sent troops in there." - but Wes opposed THAT  robbedvoter   Oct-13-05 02:31 PM   #45 
  - Then there's this:  1932   Oct-13-05 01:05 PM   #36 
     - And where is THIS wrong?  dogman   Oct-13-05 08:34 PM   #58 
     - Hunger and poverty and polarization of wealth has INCREASED!  1932   Oct-13-05 09:50 PM   #60 
        - Duh!  dogman   Oct-14-05 06:52 AM   #74 
           - American foreign policy under Truman, Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, Clinton  1932   Oct-14-05 10:18 AM   #78 
              - No, don't have the time and not interested.  dogman   Oct-14-05 04:29 PM   #81 
     - Clark has too much faith in institutions,  girl gone mad   Oct-14-05 01:22 AM   #72 
        - I think Clark has too much faith in Republican-style trickle down  1932   Oct-14-05 10:26 AM   #79 
           - You continue to define Clark in your terms, not his.  dogman   Oct-14-05 05:01 PM   #83 
           - er...ummmm excuse me, excuse me please  Donna Zen   Oct-14-05 06:27 PM   #84 
           - I'm having a tough time deciphering an argument in this post.  1932   Oct-15-05 09:14 AM   #94 
           - like clockwork...  CarolNYC   Oct-15-05 10:33 AM   #98 
           - like clockwork...  CarolNYC   Oct-15-05 10:35 AM   #99 
           - Clark opposes trickle down economics  Phoebe_in_Sydney   Oct-16-05 12:46 AM   #106 
              - I'm not saying that he endorses trickle down economics in the domestic  1932   Oct-16-05 02:23 AM   #107 
  - Exactly. What happend to the american values of anti-colonialism,  1932   Oct-13-05 12:44 PM   #35 
  - never actually existed  LatinoSocialist   Oct-13-05 01:27 PM   #40 
  - Check out this:  1932   Oct-13-05 01:46 PM   #41 
     - Interesting..  LatinoSocialist   Oct-13-05 02:22 PM   #43 
  - Well, you might be interested in this then.....  FrenchieCat   Oct-13-05 02:27 PM   #44 
  - Read the last two paragraphs of the infamous Chapter 6.  dogman   Oct-14-05 06:49 PM   #85 
     - He defines the New American Empire as a purely military empire  1932   Oct-14-05 10:22 PM   #88 
        - Once again, your words not his.  dogman   Oct-14-05 11:03 PM   #89 
           - Anyone with time and interest can read Clark's book.  1932   Oct-15-05 06:47 AM   #90 
              - Now you resort to a total distortion of the truth?  dogman   Oct-15-05 07:30 AM   #91 
                 - Cute headline. Your post doesn't back it up.  1932   Oct-15-05 08:12 AM   #92 
                    - And now you totally distort what I wrote.  dogman   Oct-15-05 09:14 AM   #93 
                       - Sound and fury signifying nothing.  1932   Oct-15-05 09:38 AM   #95 
                       - Other than a continuous assault on Clark, what is your purpose?  dogman   Oct-15-05 10:04 AM   #96 
                          - My purpose: trying show people that the New Deal principles apply to FP  1932   Oct-15-05 10:38 AM   #100 
                             - And more out of context and distortion BS.  dogman   Oct-15-05 01:55 PM   #102 
                       - Interpretation  CarolNYC   Oct-15-05 11:24 AM   #101 
                          - And here's the link so that people can read and make own judgment:  1932   Oct-15-05 02:47 PM   #103 
                             - Perhaps this would be the more appropriate link....  CarolNYC   Oct-15-05 05:40 PM   #104 
                                - That's the entire text of Chapter 6. It's an excellent start.  1932   Oct-16-05 12:11 AM   #105 
                                   - No, actually, it is not.  CarolNYC   Oct-16-05 11:20 AM   #109 
                                      - From the website:  1932   Oct-16-05 01:21 PM   #111 
                                         - Actually, I did compare them this morning  CarolNYC   Oct-16-05 01:37 PM   #112 
                                            - Everything in that article is in the book, right?  1932   Oct-16-05 06:18 PM   #113 
                                               - OK, dude (or dudette) :)  CarolNYC   Oct-16-05 09:19 PM   #115 
                                                  - Which line is not in the book?  1932   Oct-16-05 10:06 PM   #117 
                                                  - Oh,  CarolNYC   Oct-16-05 10:16 PM   #118 
                                                  - "quotes" and "paraphrased"  1932   Oct-16-05 10:58 PM   #119 
  - Of course.....but we know that....doh!  FrenchieCat   Oct-13-05 08:56 PM   #59 
  - this is interesting....  mike_c   Oct-13-05 12:15 PM   #33 
  - See this thread...Clark on Geraldo recently.....shift...  Gloria   Oct-13-05 10:52 PM   #67 
     - I will be paying close attention to this....  mike_c   Oct-14-05 12:53 AM   #71 
  - L. Eagleburger is on the board of directors of Halliburton.  DemoTex   Oct-13-05 12:24 PM   #34 
  - he's not going to apologize for the policy  SlavesandBulldozers   Oct-13-05 11:03 PM   #69 
  - that's all I needed to hear General  shadowknows69   Oct-13-05 08:18 PM   #55 
  - Sounds like a DLC shop talk!!!....Osama?, Personally trained by Poppy  goforit   Oct-13-05 09:57 PM   #61 
  - You, on the other hand get expelled  FrenchieCat   Oct-14-05 01:49 AM   #73 
  - An aside....  CarolNYC   Oct-13-05 10:37 PM   #66 
  - Bull Shit! All of this is shit until impeachment proceedings start.  Cults4Bush   Oct-14-05 08:11 AM   #75 
  - Great words  Maestro   Oct-14-05 09:49 AM   #77 
  - Two criminal thugs Albright and Eagleburger  entanglement   Oct-16-05 04:45 AM   #108 
  - To substantiate your claims  callady   Oct-16-05 11:34 AM   #110 
  - Will this replay on C-SPAN?  Field Of Dreams   Oct-16-05 07:19 PM   #114 
     - As far as I can tell...  CarolNYC   Oct-16-05 09:20 PM   #116 
 

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