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Rice: Force Necessary for Democracy
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Rice: Force necessary for democracy

Saturday 01 October 2005, 15:24 Makka Time, 12:24 GMT

The US secretary of state sought to justify US military action

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has defended the use of military force to advance the cause of democracy and liberty as "the only guarantee of true stability and lasting security".

"In a world where evil is still very real, democratic principles must also be backed with power in all its forms: Political and economic, cultural and moral, and yes, sometimes military," Rice said on Friday, in a speech at Princeton University in the northeastern state of New Jersey.

Alluding to countries such as Germany and France that opposed the US-led invasion of Iraq, Rice said: "Any champion of democracy who promotes principles without power can make no real difference in the lives of oppressed people."


"Some would argue that this broad approach to the problem is making the world less stable by rocking the boat and wrecking the status quo. But this presumes the existence of a stable status quo that does not threaten global security. This is not the case.

Rice believes US troops must
stay in Iraq for future security
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  -Rice: Force Necessary for Democracy buzzsaw_23  Oct-01-05 11:16 PM   #0 
  - Did she follow up by saying, "Now look at these shoes..."? n/t  DRoseDARs   Oct-01-05 11:21 PM   #1 
  - you shoes are from the Wookies...  tainowarrior   Oct-02-05 07:12 AM   #39 
  - Yes. But ...  The Traveler   Oct-01-05 11:22 PM   #2 
  - Almost every FN day this twirp mouths off.  pinniped   Oct-01-05 11:23 PM   #3 
  - it's a short step from that anti-democratic position...  grasswire   Oct-01-05 11:23 PM   #4 
  - Go stand in a corner,  zidzi   Oct-01-05 11:24 PM   #5 
  - Uh huh, Rice. Yeah.  Hong Kong Cavalier   Oct-01-05 11:25 PM   #6 
  - Not likely  Comadreja   Oct-02-05 02:29 PM   #67 
  - Bringing democracy by force is like bringing Christianity by the sword.  daleo   Oct-01-05 11:28 PM   #7 
  - Germany and Japan were the aggressors in WWII, as the U.S. is now  MisterP   Oct-01-05 11:31 PM   #8 
     - That is true  daleo   Oct-01-05 11:37 PM   #11 
        - but  bpilgrim   Oct-02-05 07:31 AM   #41 
        - I will have to read up more on pre-war Japan  daleo   Oct-02-05 02:57 PM   #69 
        - Democracies were also accomplished between countries  jwirr   Oct-02-05 01:43 PM   #60 
           - Japan WAS a western styled parliamentary democracy before wwII  bpilgrim   Oct-02-05 01:50 PM   #61 
              - I was not aware of their form of gov. before WWII and I was taking  jwirr   Oct-02-05 02:00 PM   #62 
  - Colonialism is a form of dictatorship not democracy  teryang   Oct-01-05 11:35 PM   #9 
  - She's unwittingly echoing Mao  Hardhead   Oct-01-05 11:36 PM   #10 
  - that is how he said it!  madrchsod   Oct-01-05 11:38 PM   #14 
  - You Beat Me To It  otohara   Oct-01-05 11:40 PM   #16 
  - i think mandela ,gandhi,king,and christ  madrchsod   Oct-01-05 11:37 PM   #12 
  - all imperial minded tyrants think alike  tainowarrior   Oct-02-05 07:14 AM   #40 
  - I think a real strong case could be made that this woman is mentally ill.  Old Crusoe   Oct-01-05 11:37 PM   #13 
  - that is why she and her master get along so well  madrchsod   Oct-01-05 11:40 PM   #17 
     - I like your image there a lot.  Old Crusoe   Oct-02-05 12:17 AM   #22 
        - LOL - It's all he is capable of understanding  Lastlaughin08   Oct-02-05 07:36 AM   #43 
  - Jesus H. Christ, they live in some weird fantasy world...  grytpype   Oct-01-05 11:38 PM   #15 
  - well, obviiously many still not convienced!  rodeodance   Oct-02-05 12:42 AM   #27 
  - So she likes it rough, eh? Doesn't surprise me  jobycom   Oct-01-05 11:55 PM   #18 
  - How come ~  Nostradammit   Oct-02-05 12:52 AM   #29 
     - I always assumed Laura did that, but now I don't know.  jobycom   Oct-02-05 01:04 AM   #31 
        - I'm thinking they take turns.  Nostradammit   Oct-02-05 01:26 AM   #33 
  - Typical neoconservative tripe  bluestateguy   Oct-02-05 12:05 AM   #19 
  - she has 'we must destroy this country  xxqqqzme   Oct-02-05 12:09 AM   #20 
  - ho ho hey hey  yorkiemommie1   Oct-02-05 12:15 AM   #21 
  - Everytime I see that website...  Gnostic   Oct-02-05 10:09 AM   #53 
  - Then why is it illegal in the US to overthrow the government by force? (nm  Book Lover   Oct-02-05 12:24 AM   #23 
  - She is a warmonger  lumpy   Oct-02-05 12:27 AM   #24 
  - Karen h. said the same thing this week on her 'diplomacy' tour..  rodeodance   Oct-02-05 12:39 AM   #25 
  - nominated  rodeodance   Oct-02-05 12:40 AM   #26 
  - the face of evil  flordehinojos   Oct-02-05 12:47 AM   #28 
  - War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength  LoneDriver   Oct-02-05 01:01 AM   #30 
  - Oh, I thought she was an expert on Russian history, Seems as though  The_Casual_Observer   Oct-02-05 01:12 AM   #32 
  - am I the only one who finds Rice a little . . . well . . . ditzy? . . .  OneBlueSky   Oct-02-05 02:05 AM   #34 
  - She's the evil Mary Tyler Moore.  tanyev   Oct-02-05 07:43 AM   #45 
  - Given the content of her remarks, her positiion is understandable.  Theduckno2   Oct-02-05 03:34 AM   #35 
  - faster pussycat! kill! kill!  truthisfreedom   Oct-02-05 03:40 AM   #36 
  - Heard a Dick Gregory quotation recently...  Orsino   Oct-02-05 06:44 AM   #37 
  - The new 'Murika: Democracy at gunpoint.  ixion   Oct-02-05 07:02 AM   #38 
  - What else would you expect from the DC dominatrix?  Lastlaughin08   Oct-02-05 07:34 AM   #42 
  - She's no dominatrix  Gnostic   Oct-02-05 12:08 PM   #59 
  - Do you think she's afraid of the monsters under the bed too?  methinks2   Oct-02-05 07:36 AM   #44 
  - Might makes right.  tanyev   Oct-02-05 07:44 AM   #46 
  - INTELLIGENCE is Necessary for Democracy  Demeter   Oct-02-05 07:46 AM   #47 
  - When you seek the greatest evil  modrepub   Oct-02-05 09:02 AM   #48 
  - So, if you don't think like I do, then war is an option? n/t  splat@14   Oct-02-05 09:10 AM   #49 
  - The premise is so stupid and ignorant that's not even debatable  nolabels   Oct-02-05 09:13 AM   #50 
  - Such BS, how bout the so called democracies in Israel and Egypt  Charles19   Oct-02-05 09:27 AM   #51 
  - They want to make democracy just like dictatorship.  tabasco   Oct-02-05 09:55 AM   #52 
  - Can we bring DEMOCRACY back to the US?  Luna_Chick   Oct-02-05 10:14 AM   #54 
  - and I say  symbolman   Oct-02-05 10:47 AM   #55 
  - Perhaps this is what Bennett meant...  Gnostic   Oct-02-05 10:55 AM   #56 
  - I think what Bennett meant was  buzzsaw_23   Oct-02-05 11:26 AM   #57 
     - Apologies  Gnostic   Oct-02-05 12:01 PM   #58 
  - Why does this mentality piss me off?  0007   Oct-02-05 02:16 PM   #63 
  - Fascistic philosophizing  govegan   Oct-02-05 02:17 PM   #64 
  - Where in her career or academic study did she learn that  madmark   Oct-02-05 02:18 PM   #65 
  - "Where in her career or academic study did she learn that  Spinoza   Oct-02-05 05:31 PM   #70 
  - Exxon Condi  Comadreja   Oct-02-05 02:27 PM   #66 
  - Just another secondhand Imperialist failure  Comadreja   Oct-02-05 02:41 PM   #68 
  - If I said that the secret service would be knocking on my door. n/t  Chemical Bill   Oct-02-05 07:20 PM   #71 
  - Rice-a-baloney.  Olney Blue   Oct-02-05 07:39 PM   #72 
  - Shame, Cornfencia Rice, shame.  The Kicker   Oct-02-05 07:59 PM   #73 

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