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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 07:35 PM
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72. true, but what the poster said may have some truth

The main problem with ID (other than it's not a real stand alone theory) is that it always ends up promoting a xtian God, one could suggest many possible beginnings that don't involve the God of the xtian bible, Spinoza's God for example.

In the short story The Last Question, Isaac Asimov offered a unique version of creation, which involves a universe wide computer that "evolves" over time, it reaches a point where it can answer "the last question". Pretty great short story, Personally if one were to extrapolate different versions of a "God theory" one of them would have to be Asimov's version.
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  -Pennsylvania school district's intelligent-design statement Judi Lynn  Sep-27-05 08:43 AM   #0 
  - God damn it!  Orrex   Sep-27-05 08:45 AM   #1 
  - Ditto.  LiberalVoice   Sep-27-05 08:47 AM   #2 
  - God damn it!  Lerkfish   Sep-27-05 08:49 AM   #3 
  - Embarassed doesn't begin to describe my feelings on this..  NuckinFutz   Sep-27-05 09:27 AM   #10 
  - Any moderate who wonders whether DU or Freep is a better home....  eallen   Sep-27-05 08:50 AM   #4 
  - Actually, most freepers don't know what they are  Tempest   Sep-27-05 09:32 AM   #11 
     - Actually, while I detest their politics  lakercub   Sep-27-05 06:05 PM   #55 
  - Could someone PLEASE explain the correct definition  Kelvin Mace   Sep-27-05 08:50 AM   #5 
  - Yeah. Gravity is a theory too, you morans.  kath   Sep-27-05 03:20 PM   #40 
     - If they're going to give a plug for ID, then they need to mention Flying  kath   Sep-27-05 03:23 PM   #41 
     - The Onion ran a story a few weeks ago...  regnaD kciN   Sep-27-05 04:29 PM   #46 
     - Gravity is a fact  Xipe Totec   Sep-27-05 07:19 PM   #69 
        - As a spinal cord injury sufferer  AtTheEndOfTheDay   Sep-27-05 07:33 PM   #70 
        - I think the "intelligent designer" was brilliant. After all, he/she/it  kestrel91316   Sep-28-05 10:38 AM   #79 
        - Or as Kurt Vonnegut asked on TDSw/JS  Bush in Berkeley   Sep-28-05 12:49 PM   #83 
  - Once again, a pack of Religious Nuts embarrass America in the ...  BlueJazz   Sep-27-05 08:52 AM   #6 
  - Great...  TlalocW   Sep-27-05 08:54 AM   #7 
  - I am an outraged Christian as well  Beaver Tail   Sep-27-05 08:55 AM   #8 
  - what's worse, it's BAD theology  northzax   Sep-27-05 10:22 AM   #15 
     - Bingo!  blackhorse   Sep-27-05 12:35 PM   #28 
     - Well said :-)  papau   Sep-27-05 02:43 PM   #36 
     - Very well and beautifully said. Thank you.  The White Tree   Sep-27-05 03:08 PM   #38 
     - This is extremely  Beaver Tail   Sep-27-05 03:31 PM   #44 
     - I think I can boil your post down some:  kgfnally   Sep-27-05 06:11 PM   #59 
     - no, that's unfair  northzax   Sep-27-05 06:36 PM   #66 
     - My own personal religion (which I invented) says that there WAS an  kestrel91316   Sep-28-05 10:40 AM   #80 
  - While other societies advance because they studied  rurallib   Sep-27-05 09:12 AM   #9 
  - Scientific brain drain  Tempest   Sep-27-05 09:34 AM   #12 
  - No, America will be asking the Intelligent Designer to ...  damntexdem   Sep-27-05 03:02 PM   #37 
  - Sigh  drm604   Sep-27-05 09:34 AM   #13 
  - Christian agenda attacking science  slay   Sep-27-05 10:19 AM   #14 
  - lewis structures are just a theory...  renegade000   Sep-27-05 10:24 AM   #16 
  - It makes no sense to challenge theory with superstition!  Mountainman   Sep-27-05 10:25 AM   #17 
  - DU'ers Would Do Much Better To Crititque The Perverted Version Of ID  cryingshame   Sep-27-05 10:32 AM   #18 
  - T'was God, She did it!  Kailassa   Sep-27-05 10:59 AM   #19 
  - ID does NOT posit any being. The fundies abusing the theory do  cryingshame   Sep-27-05 12:24 PM   #27 
     - Huh? You lost me. "Design" doesn't REQUIRE a "Designer"?  reprobate   Sep-27-05 06:19 PM   #64 
        - not a supreme being of a designer-  MarsThe Cat   Sep-27-05 08:10 PM   #77 
  - What a ridiculous statement.  smoogatz   Sep-27-05 11:52 AM   #23 
  - There's nothing supernatural in ID Theory. Only when the fundies  cryingshame   Sep-27-05 12:22 PM   #26 
     - "Design" requires a designer.  smoogatz   Sep-27-05 01:08 PM   #29 
     - Not God, Gaia?  Kailassa   Sep-27-05 01:23 PM   #30 
     - You've got it backwards, and you're also wrong.  Zhade   Sep-27-05 06:05 PM   #54 
     - But it DOES still equate to  kgfnally   Sep-27-05 06:14 PM   #60 
     - no  lakercub   Sep-27-05 06:17 PM   #62 
        - Welcome to DU, lakercub.  Zhade   Sep-27-05 07:35 PM   #71 
  - "It's as perfectly valid a theory as Darwinism" Really?  NickB79   Sep-27-05 01:34 PM   #31 
  - Then teach Intelligent Design as philosophy.  Bridget Burke   Sep-27-05 01:39 PM   #32 
  - Nonsense! ID is pure Creationism without a spine.  damntexdem   Sep-27-05 03:16 PM   #39 
  - Your version of ID likewise has zero proof and is not science.  Zhade   Sep-27-05 05:55 PM   #52 
  - no it isn't perfectly valid a theory as Darwinism  WindRavenX   Sep-27-05 06:05 PM   #56 
  - How is ID as valid as evolution?  lakercub   Sep-27-05 06:25 PM   #65 
  - Seeing a Pro-Stupidity agenda vigorously promoted is just insufferable  Sandpiper   Sep-27-05 10:59 AM   #20 
  - Pro-Stupidity Agenda?  astroBspacedog   Sep-27-05 04:17 PM   #45 
  - Here is what I don't get  Dr Batsen D Belfry   Sep-27-05 11:10 AM   #21 
  - Sunday schools are free.  superconnected   Sep-27-05 02:32 PM   #34 
  - But that isn't their goal...  regnaD kciN   Sep-27-05 04:32 PM   #47 
  - would you be referring to Santorum's Protection of Accuweather Bill?  northzax   Sep-28-05 10:59 AM   #81 
  - How do these two statements make sense together????  obreaslan   Sep-27-05 11:45 AM   #22 
  - Evolutionists fail again under the ploy of the Republicans  superconnected   Sep-27-05 11:53 AM   #24 
  - Actually, many have begun using the term "IDC" ---  damntexdem   Sep-27-05 03:27 PM   #42 
  - Actually, "Darwinism" is not just the theory of evolution...  regnaD kciN   Sep-27-05 04:38 PM   #48 
  - If I was teaching biology in the Dover, PA school district  smoogatz   Sep-27-05 12:13 PM   #25 
  - What? You heretic! How dare you propose telling the students that ...  damntexdem   Sep-27-05 03:30 PM   #43 
  - Religionists  iam   Sep-27-05 02:22 PM   #33 
  - and this is a fucking BLUE STATE?  Endangered Specie   Sep-27-05 02:38 PM   #35 
  - See post #18 and tell me you're surprised.  Zhade   Sep-27-05 06:08 PM   #58 
     - true, but what the poster said may have some truth  Phx_Dem   Sep-27-05 07:35 PM   #72 
        - The poster's point might have some truth, if it made any sense.  Zhade   Sep-27-05 08:00 PM   #75 
  - Why don't they just cut to the chase and recommend Genesis? It would  yellowcanine   Sep-27-05 05:13 PM   #49 
  - yeah... put a christian book called  bee   Sep-27-05 05:33 PM   #50 
  - Why do some of these asshats call ID a theory?  pinniped   Sep-27-05 05:46 PM   #51 
  - No  lakercub   Sep-28-05 10:29 AM   #78 
  - And next week, girls, be sure to wear your burkas, or it's  Miss Chybil   Sep-27-05 05:57 PM   #53 
  - Ha! The laughing stock of a nation.  usregimechange   Sep-27-05 06:06 PM   #57 
  - Please, god. Save me from all those trying to save me.  reprobate   Sep-27-05 06:16 PM   #61 
  - Shit  sakabatou   Sep-27-05 06:19 PM   #63 
  - A little critique  lakercub   Sep-27-05 06:38 PM   #67 
  - Hey, Lakercub...  smoogatz   Sep-27-05 07:04 PM   #68 
  - Wow thats my home town paper. cool  obxhead   Sep-27-05 07:39 PM   #73 
  - This is sad!  Jim__   Sep-27-05 07:41 PM   #74 
  - Dover's mascot can now be the Dunce  Solly Mack   Sep-27-05 08:06 PM   #76 
  - IDers need to look up in the dictionary the word "teleological" eom.  baby_mouse   Sep-28-05 12:06 PM   #82 

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