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Tue Sep-27-05 03:02 PM
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| 119. The oil belongs to Venezuela and the Venezuelan people |
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Not to some foreign corporation.
I hope Chavez does what Fidel did in Cuba, and what we ought to do in America: nationalize the energy industry!
I won't shed any tears for a transnational corporation, or the assets they unfairly acquired, and neither should anyone else.
Viva Chavez! Abajo con Bush!
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| -Venezuela threatens to take over oil fields |
Say_What |
Sep-27-05 08:36 AM |
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Lets hope this won't be another 1953 Iran Coup |
Beaver Tail |
Sep-27-05 08:46 AM |
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Begins to look like Chile... |
fshrink |
Sep-27-05 08:53 AM |
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Now the reasons for wanting Chavez finally come to light |
sando |
Sep-27-05 08:55 AM |
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You didn't know THAT? |
votesomemore |
Sep-27-05 02:15 PM |
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That is one of the most far-fetched ideas I've ever heard |
Johnyawl |
Sep-27-05 08:44 PM |
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It's always a country's loss when the right-wing Republican pResident |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-27-05 09:01 AM |
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Do you know anything |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 12:56 PM |
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Yes |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 12:59 PM |
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Obviously |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:03 PM |
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Oh really? |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 01:11 PM |
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He has no respect for constitutions |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:16 PM |
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This is a non sequitor |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 01:22 PM |
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He certainly was elected |
votesomemore |
Sep-27-05 02:18 PM |
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No country is obligated to keep in power a man who orders massacres |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-27-05 01:33 PM |
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El Caracazo, etc... |
Say_What |
Sep-27-05 03:10 PM |
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Great info. Just what the doctor ordered! |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-27-05 03:28 PM |
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Why don't you explain what you're hinting at? |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-27-05 01:08 PM |
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I do not support the |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:19 PM |
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This is very vague |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 01:24 PM |
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Always back to what the US |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:53 PM |
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No, you haven't |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 04:59 PM |
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You do realize... |
NinetySix |
Sep-27-05 01:45 PM |
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Interesting view of history |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:48 PM |
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Interesting non-response. |
NinetySix |
Sep-27-05 01:51 PM |
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So you prefer myth over fact? |
K-W |
Sep-27-05 01:55 PM |
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A coup |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 02:06 PM |
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I thought you objected to the use of violence. |
K-W |
Sep-27-05 02:13 PM |
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only a distiction |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 02:22 PM |
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A self-serving hollow destinction. |
K-W |
Sep-27-05 02:25 PM |
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Please read World History 101 |
votesomemore |
Sep-27-05 02:25 PM |
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There are very few |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 03:02 PM |
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nonsense |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 05:06 PM |
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You mean like the Chilean coup that overthrew Salvador Allende? |
Say_What |
Sep-27-05 03:17 PM |
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Yes, that is the M.O. of the U.S. Government-and how is Iraq |
katty |
Sep-27-05 03:11 PM |
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thats a very narrow view |
morgan2 |
Sep-27-05 03:08 PM |
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You need to read a little about what sovereign countries can and can't do |
Say_What |
Sep-27-05 03:12 PM |
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Dupe. n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-27-05 01:10 PM |
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Yes I know. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-27-05 01:53 PM |
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Stagecraft: Chavez = Boogeyman for higher oil prices in the US |
Mika |
Sep-27-05 09:30 AM |
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As I was driving through one of the Boston areas poorer neighborhoods, |
Say_What |
Sep-27-05 09:38 AM |
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Also... |
IthinkThereforeIAM |
Sep-27-05 10:39 AM |
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this will piss off big oil |
emald |
Sep-27-05 10:04 AM |
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Good! |
slay |
Sep-27-05 10:06 AM |
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unfortunately |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 12:55 PM |
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no |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 01:00 PM |
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Why don't you provide a source revealing what political prisoners |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-27-05 01:01 PM |
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Check out Amnesty International |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:10 PM |
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V crisis is an anti-Chavez site. |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-27-05 01:14 PM |
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Sep-27-05 03:33 PM |
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It's kinda like having a squirrel getting into the house! |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-27-05 03:41 PM |
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Sep-27-05 09:03 PM |
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Not Amnesty International |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 01:16 PM |
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Did you read the full report from IAC |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:22 PM |
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What is your point? |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 01:26 PM |
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no need to prove |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:31 PM |
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Then your opinion is rather foolish |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 01:36 PM |
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Where have I made anything up??? |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 02:20 PM |
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Here is where |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 05:04 PM |
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Based on facts??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
Say_What |
Sep-27-05 09:30 PM |
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try this one or will you still deny?? |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:26 PM |
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Okay |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 01:34 PM |
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please read the AI link |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:40 PM |
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You spouting nonsense |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 05:09 PM |
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Say_What recognized him. Here's a thread in which he believed himself |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-27-05 05:15 PM |
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They used to teach history in school. Hitler got his power thru elections. |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Sep-27-05 11:04 PM |
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try this on foflappy...lot more against this one.... |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Sep-27-05 01:41 PM |
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War detainees are not |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 02:04 PM |
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illogical |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 05:15 PM |
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Here's are some articles you need to scan from Amnesty International |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-27-05 02:01 PM |
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OK But is off the topic |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 02:11 PM |
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No, not off topic |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 05:12 PM |
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VCRISIS???? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
Say_What |
Sep-27-05 03:21 PM |
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Have you been paying attention? |
NinetySix |
Sep-27-05 01:19 PM |
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try this one |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:24 PM |
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Do you ever reply to a response? |
NinetySix |
Sep-27-05 01:33 PM |
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Very sorry..a excerpt from the posted AI link. |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:38 PM |
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Reads very much like 1973 Chile when the US was financing and supporting |
Say_What |
Sep-27-05 03:28 PM |
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MSM, Allende's Chile, and Venezuela |
Say_What |
Sep-27-05 03:59 PM |
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Wow |
tkmorris |
Sep-27-05 02:54 PM |
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The bogeyman of communism doesn't frighten anyone anymore! |
IndianaGreen |
Sep-27-05 03:04 PM |
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Venezuela to Create State Owned Steel Company |
Say_What |
Sep-27-05 10:45 AM |
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South American nations agree to work for energy integration |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-27-05 12:11 PM |
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Why do so many at DU |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 12:49 PM |
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Why don't you provide links to your charge Chavez murdered to become |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-27-05 12:59 PM |
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ok |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:13 PM |
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Sep-27-05 01:20 PM |
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Amnesty Int. a right wing group????? |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:27 PM |
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No! |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 01:31 PM |
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who is to say |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:44 PM |
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Some people on this forum |
votesomemore |
Sep-27-05 02:40 PM |
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You have done no such thing |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 05:20 PM |
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The election was monitored by tons of international observers. |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-27-05 01:25 PM |
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An attempted coup in 2002 (against Mr. Chavez) foundered within 48 hours. |
bpilgrim |
Sep-27-05 01:28 PM |
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Bush and his cronies are the biggest MASS MURDERERS on the PLANET today |
bpilgrim |
Sep-27-05 01:19 PM |
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who told you that?? The easter bunny |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:28 PM |
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Sep-27-05 01:30 PM |
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Because I do not like Chavez |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:33 PM |
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Sep-27-05 01:40 PM |
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Because my opinions differ from yours |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:46 PM |
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spouting the neo-liberal lie wont go far on DU |
bpilgrim |
Sep-27-05 01:52 PM |
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What is neo-liberal??? |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:55 PM |
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stick around |
bpilgrim |
Sep-27-05 02:05 PM |
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I'd likje to hear what you think it is |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 02:16 PM |
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in a nut-shell it is simply PROFIT-over-PEOPLE |
bpilgrim |
Sep-27-05 02:25 PM |
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I agree with your definition... |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 02:56 PM |
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Basically, the usual right-wing anti-poor ideology |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-27-05 02:26 PM |
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No, because you edit and cherry-pick to make your argument. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-27-05 02:05 PM |
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Who here does not pick and |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 02:08 PM |
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Nice backpedaling. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-27-05 02:16 PM |
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A dictator takes extra constitutial power |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 02:24 PM |
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Vague. All of those could be said of Bush. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-27-05 02:27 PM |
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Vauge??????? |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 02:38 PM |
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Thank you. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-27-05 02:41 PM |
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LOL! |
votesomemore |
Sep-27-05 02:48 PM |
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Not really |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-27-05 02:59 PM |
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Yes, very vague |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 05:24 PM |
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Bypassing the US Senate |
votesomemore |
Sep-27-05 02:45 PM |
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Will you continue to spout nonsense? |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 04:56 PM |
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Like we don't know one when we see one. |
votesomemore |
Sep-27-05 02:42 PM |
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I am as serious as a heart attack |
bpilgrim |
Sep-27-05 01:32 PM |
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I agree that the US is engaging |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:37 PM |
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who told you that? the Easter Bunny? |
bpilgrim |
Sep-27-05 01:40 PM |
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Facts are in the eye of the beholder |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 01:59 PM |
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you speak from ignorance yet have the ego to spout the M$M line |
bpilgrim |
Sep-27-05 02:11 PM |
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so you do not believe |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 02:27 PM |
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Name a country that hasn't |
Outrider |
Sep-27-05 02:35 PM |
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M$M = Main Stream Media |
votesomemore |
Sep-27-05 02:53 PM |
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Do you know who he was trying to oust or why? |
tkmorris |
Sep-27-05 03:24 PM |
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I will disagree with the methods |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 03:52 PM |
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Amartya Sen says that development should be measured by increasing freedom |
1932 |
Sep-27-05 04:03 PM |
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Here's the link to the DN interview... |
Say_What |
Sep-27-05 04:07 PM |
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Since you *claim* to know so much about Venezuela, but fail to provide |
Say_What |
Sep-27-05 04:05 PM |
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Facts are in the eye of the beholder? |
NinetySix |
Sep-27-05 02:12 PM |
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Yes facts are |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 02:34 PM |
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You are no progressive... |
Solon |
Sep-27-05 02:28 PM |
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Interesting post |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 02:42 PM |
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I was being a little sarcastic... |
Solon |
Sep-27-05 03:21 PM |
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.You addressed many points very efficiently. |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-27-05 02:57 PM |
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I can retain quite a bit of information in my head, surprisingly... |
Solon |
Sep-27-05 03:23 PM |
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Oh really? |
funnymanpants |
Sep-27-05 05:29 PM |
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Your right. I looked into it -- this is HUGH!!1!!1 |
NinetySix |
Sep-27-05 01:40 PM |
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Yes, clearly Hugo is not helping anymore, and he ought to shutup now. |
bemildred |
Sep-27-05 02:15 PM |
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What happened to the usual Chavez haters? |
Bridget Burke |
Sep-27-05 02:16 PM |
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Perhaps one of the tombstoned has returned from the crypt.... |
NinetySix |
Sep-27-05 02:25 PM |
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Ah, the joys of dynamic IP addresses. (nt) |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-27-05 02:28 PM |
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Look at his profile |
Outrider |
Sep-27-05 02:39 PM |
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McLean county is quite conservative |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 02:48 PM |
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Is this a form of geographic clasism |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 02:58 PM |
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No, I speak from experience |
Outrider |
Sep-27-05 03:08 PM |
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Ive been here in McLean County |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 03:25 PM |
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Nothing to do with geography. IT. (nt) |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Sep-27-05 03:22 PM |
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You could have just asked. |
foflappy |
Sep-27-05 03:26 PM |
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Nothing to do with it... |
Solon |
Sep-27-05 03:26 PM |
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Sep-27-05 04:49 PM |
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Sep-27-05 05:12 PM |
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Thanks for that link... |
Say_What |
Sep-27-05 09:25 PM |
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They gotta try out their training wheels |
votesomemore |
Sep-27-05 02:56 PM |
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Yes, this IS HUGH!!!11!!1!!1!!! He just stumbled into a hotbed of |
Judi Lynn |
Sep-27-05 03:55 PM |
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Chavez is for the people and not the big companies. It's opposite |
bearfan454 |
Sep-27-05 02:29 PM |
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Same post nearly word for word that I saw on a Cuba thread last week |
Say_What |
Sep-27-05 02:47 PM |
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The same reason "some people" take every opportunity to bash Chavez |
slay |
Sep-27-05 10:19 PM |
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In related news Bushco annouced that there are suspected WMD in Venezuela |
losdiablosgato |
Sep-27-05 01:33 PM |
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The oil belongs to Venezuela and the Venezuelan people |
IndianaGreen |
Sep-27-05 03:02 PM |
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This sounds like a job for... |
DFWJock |
Sep-27-05 03:04 PM |
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amen to that! bush&gang (so far) are not having much |
katty |
Sep-27-05 03:17 PM |
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During the 2003 strikes in Venezuela, the country was in debt because |
1932 |
Sep-27-05 03:25 PM |
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Agreed! |
Megahurtz |
Sep-27-05 07:27 PM |
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OMG, Condie has no troops to protect her bosses' oil interests! |
McCamy Taylor |
Sep-27-05 04:57 PM |
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I'm not sure what to think |
Sgent |
Sep-27-05 08:49 PM |
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Do some reading on the Bolivarian Circles |
IndianaGreen |
Sep-27-05 09:13 PM |
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Precisely... |
Say_What |
Sep-27-05 09:23 PM |
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Communism is a centrally-planned economy. Venezuela is a market economy. |
1932 |
Sep-28-05 02:11 AM |
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locking |
Moderator |
Sep-28-05 02:50 AM |
#173 |