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12. not so much a church/state issue, I think
As yet another use of schoolchildren as political props.

I think it's fine to allow parents to choose to have their kids go see and hear an important speaker, whether religious, political, scientific, or whatnot. But it's another thing all together to coerce children into being used as a backdrop for high-publicity events or to fill seats.
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  -Some parents express concern over Dalai Lama visit Cocoa  Sep-11-05 02:36 PM   #0 
  - Of ALL the things to get bent out of shape about...  Fenris   Sep-11-05 02:40 PM   #1 
  - Agreed. n/t  Kralizec   Sep-11-05 04:41 PM   #24 
  - Bloody Hell, these people just don't quit...  DRoseDARs   Sep-11-05 02:40 PM   #2 
  - Hahaha!  Gregorian   Sep-11-05 03:34 PM   #13 
  - Oh Lawd.  shockra   Sep-11-05 04:03 PM   #19 
  - What a bumper sticker that would make  matt819   Sep-11-05 05:38 PM   #29 
  - The idiots watched that MOVIE!!!!  MADem   Sep-12-05 12:48 PM   #77 
  - "Little Buddha"?  tblue37   Sep-12-05 02:13 PM   #85 
     - That's the one!!!! nt  MADem   Sep-12-05 03:38 PM   #99 
     - Well that's how it ended after the "test screening" caused the Studio...  Up2Late   Sep-12-05 04:32 PM   #113 
        - How did it originally end?  tblue37   Sep-13-05 09:32 AM   #135 
  - OH THE HUGE MANATEE!!! LOL!!!! Good one!  Up2Late   Sep-12-05 04:24 PM   #109 
  - Yeah, it's a great pun. Even comes with a picture...  DRoseDARs   Sep-13-05 06:34 AM   #130 
     - Hahahahahahaha!!!  Megahurtz   Sep-13-05 03:49 PM   #143 
     - Do you have one for Standing Ovulations?  rkc3   Sep-13-05 04:21 PM   #144 
  - No Shit!  Tight_rope   Sep-12-05 04:31 PM   #112 
  - Yes, but they'll watch Pat Robertson's swill on TV  Angry Girl   Sep-11-05 02:44 PM   #3 
  - Jews watch Pat Robertson?  QC   Sep-11-05 02:48 PM   #4 
  - right-wing Jews do  Cocoa   Sep-11-05 02:54 PM   #8 
  - Not even right wing Jews watch Pat Robertson  karynnj   Sep-11-05 04:10 PM   #21 
     - Jews for Jesus (who are really Xtina fundamentalists)  IndianaGreen   Sep-13-05 09:18 AM   #134 
  - *LOL* didn't mean to imply that!  Angry Girl   Sep-11-05 04:06 PM   #20 
  - Really?  sakabatou   Sep-11-05 06:35 PM   #36 
  - so now they worry about church and state. remember that, sun  roguevalley   Sep-11-05 02:48 PM   #5 
  - So what if it were Robertson who was coming over?  trogdor   Sep-12-05 02:02 PM   #83 
     - The Dalai Lama isn't doing missionary work...  DRoseDARs   Sep-17-05 07:02 AM   #146 
  - wait wait  Goldensilence   Sep-11-05 02:49 PM   #6 
  - Sure, ban the Dalai Lama  salinen   Sep-11-05 02:49 PM   #7 
  - It's humorous if it weren't so absurd  insane_cratic_gal   Sep-11-05 03:04 PM   #9 
  - what dangerous, subversive thoughts!!! n/t  Blue_Tires   Sep-11-05 03:23 PM   #11 
  - thanks people need this message  klyon   Sep-11-05 06:54 PM   #38 
  - I enjoyed reading this...I was raised Presbyterian, but have come to  WiseButAngrySara   Sep-12-05 03:23 PM   #95 
     - I sure do  insane_cratic_gal   Sep-12-05 09:09 PM   #127 
  - Ha! What absurd people!  Hardrada   Sep-11-05 03:19 PM   #10 
  - not so much a church/state issue, I think  pop goes the weasel   Sep-11-05 03:23 PM   #12 
  - Should he send them to see the Pope?  sandnsea   Sep-11-05 03:40 PM   #14 
  - Actually..  mvd   Sep-12-05 02:25 PM   #86 
  - As long as they allow them to go to see other religious leaders it's OK.  hollowdweller   Sep-11-05 03:40 PM   #15 
  - I think he's the political Leader-in-exile of Tibet, too.  Feles Mala   Sep-12-05 03:08 PM   #93 
  - It might interfere with the parental unit brainwashing  Rex   Sep-11-05 03:44 PM   #16 
  - I think their concern is valid, frankly.  Zenlitened   Sep-11-05 03:56 PM   #17 
  - I guess these parents just don't want their kids thinking about other  VegasWolf   Sep-11-05 04:00 PM   #18 
  - Not to worry...  Hand   Sep-11-05 06:13 PM   #32 
     - "Buddhism is a non-theistic religion  Johnny Noshoes   Sep-11-05 07:00 PM   #40 
     - But it is a supernatural based religion. Buddha under the Bodhi tree.  VegasWolf   Sep-11-05 07:23 PM   #43 
     - Hell, yoga is frightening to them  Southpaw Bookworm   Sep-12-05 08:48 AM   #54 
     - "Buddhism Without Beliefs" by Stephen Batchelor  alfredo   Sep-12-05 12:08 PM   #72 
        - No. Worshiping Buddha is not a tenet of Buddhism as is worshiping  VegasWolf   Sep-12-05 01:04 PM   #79 
        - I am in agreement with you. I was saying that Buddhism that  alfredo   Sep-12-05 01:47 PM   #80 
           - True!  VegasWolf   Sep-12-05 01:49 PM   #81 
              - I'll drink to that.  alfredo   Sep-12-05 02:07 PM   #84 
        - The gods were always there  psychopomp   Sep-12-05 07:41 PM   #126 
           - One little correction...  Hand   Sep-13-05 09:58 AM   #136 
              - Thanks for pointing that out  psychopomp   Sep-13-05 10:33 AM   #139 
     - Vajrayana (Tibetan) Buddhism does have quite a few gods  psychopomp   Sep-12-05 09:48 AM   #57 
  - no one should be forced to go  ayeshahaqqiqa   Sep-11-05 04:22 PM   #22 
  - What's a Jew doing in Idaho anyway?  Danmel   Sep-11-05 04:39 PM   #23 
  - Must be really, really reform, don't you think? (nt)  matt819   Sep-11-05 05:39 PM   #30 
     - Likely  Danmel   Sep-11-05 07:19 PM   #42 
  - Oh yeah, the Dalai will probably totally corrupt those kids.  skooooo   Sep-11-05 04:45 PM   #25 
  - Here's the governor's website with more info:  IDemo   Sep-11-05 04:47 PM   #26 
  - I'm so sorry, but Idaho is a stupid place  sheeptramp   Sep-11-05 04:52 PM   #27 
  - It's because of all the right wingers moving to Idaho  Erika   Sep-11-05 06:58 PM   #39 
     - ...and Frank Church!  sheeptramp   Sep-11-05 07:18 PM   #41 
        - Yep  Erika   Sep-11-05 09:01 PM   #46 
        - Cece Andrus and Frank Church were two of the greatest Dems  Enraged_Ape   Sep-12-05 10:46 AM   #61 
  - "My religion is love," Dalai Lama. How can you argue with that statement.  FreeStateDemocrat   Sep-11-05 05:14 PM   #28 
  - Very interesting statement  psychopomp   Sep-12-05 10:33 AM   #60 
  - "My religion is kindness" is the...  pelagius   Sep-12-05 02:56 PM   #92 
  - They'll find a way to confuse it with the Kama Sutra!!! n/t  MADem   Sep-12-05 12:51 PM   #78 
  - As a Buddhist ...  Akoto   Sep-11-05 05:41 PM   #31 
  - "Some people say"  Mika   Sep-11-05 06:26 PM   #33 
  - I understand wanting to point out the hypocrisy of this response  6000eliot   Sep-11-05 06:29 PM   #34 
  - The government isn't sponsoring this  IDemo   Sep-11-05 06:49 PM   #37 
  - I bet if it was some Cardinal, they wouldn't have a problem  sakabatou   Sep-11-05 06:29 PM   #35 
  - I agree totally, all religion should be kept separate from any kind of  VegasWolf   Sep-11-05 07:46 PM   #44 
  - See response #37 above n/t  IDemo   Sep-11-05 07:52 PM   #45 
  - Seperation of church and state, as written in the Constitution  LiberalAmerican   Sep-12-05 12:08 AM   #47 
  - My personal opinion is that no government funding should go  VegasWolf   Sep-12-05 12:36 AM   #48 
  - The constitution  Sgent   Sep-12-05 01:37 AM   #49 
  - I would not want my children required to write an essay about the Pope.  patcox2   Sep-12-05 09:54 AM   #59 
     - Children were "invited" to write essays.  Bridget Burke   Sep-12-05 10:53 AM   #65 
        - sure, 'invited' and 'non-cumpulsory'  northzax   Sep-12-05 12:47 PM   #76 
           - Are your kids that regimented?  Bridget Burke   Sep-12-05 01:55 PM   #82 
              - a 'suggestion' from their teacher  northzax   Sep-12-05 02:36 PM   #87 
                 - If my boss "suggested" I wear shorter skirts to work...  Bridget Burke   Sep-12-05 02:38 PM   #89 
                    - so your boss can't suggest something to you  northzax   Sep-12-05 02:46 PM   #90 
                    - I don't NEED HR to protect me.  Bridget Burke   Sep-12-05 03:17 PM   #94 
                       - but what about the ones that don't?  northzax   Sep-12-05 03:41 PM   #100 
                    - good lord - how tight can we twist it??  iverglas   Sep-12-05 05:41 PM   #121 
  - The event is privately funded...  Bridget Burke   Sep-12-05 06:26 AM   #51 
  - sorry, that excuse doesn't hold water  northzax   Sep-12-05 10:47 AM   #62 
     - You've discovered the secret plot!  Bridget Burke   Sep-12-05 10:50 AM   #64 
     - probably  northzax   Sep-12-05 10:58 AM   #66 
     - Why not?  Nihil   Sep-12-05 11:21 AM   #68 
     - then it's also ok to say  northzax   Sep-12-05 12:40 PM   #73 
        - More or less in agreement here  Nihil   Sep-13-05 04:05 AM   #129 
           - there's a key line in your post  northzax   Sep-13-05 08:57 AM   #132 
              - Unintentionally misleading  Nihil   Sep-13-05 10:07 AM   #137 
     - "the public schools have no business sponsoring"....  boise1   Sep-12-05 12:05 PM   #69 
        - they aren't sponsoring the event  northzax   Sep-12-05 12:43 PM   #74 
  - Out of curiosity...  NobleCynic   Sep-12-05 04:25 PM   #110 
     - You are the second person to read more into what I said than what  VegasWolf   Sep-12-05 05:29 PM   #118 
  - Total proof - Americans are just plain stupid n/t  donheld   Sep-12-05 03:18 AM   #50 
  - Lucky kids those are.  leesa   Sep-12-05 07:23 AM   #52 
  - "they"  iverglas   Sep-12-05 07:53 AM   #53 
  - My coworker is thrilled  marshall   Sep-12-05 09:27 AM   #55 
  - The Dalai Lama announced last night on CNN that he hoped to visit  WiseButAngrySara   Sep-12-05 03:53 PM   #103 
  - Bahahaha....  defiant1   Sep-12-05 09:44 AM   #56 
  - I'm sure the parents can make decisions on their own without the  goforit   Sep-12-05 09:49 AM   #58 
  - ...if there is a problem...  xdk999   Sep-12-05 10:48 AM   #63 
  - My three nieces met the Dalai Lama a couple of years ago.  gauguin57   Sep-12-05 11:18 AM   #67 
  - I've met His Holiness as well  northzax   Sep-12-05 12:45 PM   #75 
     - yup!  iverglas   Sep-13-05 08:21 AM   #131 
  - Heh, NOW they mention "constitutional separation between church and state"  54anickel   Sep-12-05 12:08 PM   #70 
  - If I had to listen to a religious authority, I would far rather listen to  VegasWolf   Sep-12-05 12:08 PM   #71 
  - Crossroads Christian Church is concerned....  Bridget Burke   Sep-12-05 02:37 PM   #88 
  - Wow!! Tell me this church is not REAL please!!!! Get your anti-evolution  VegasWolf   Sep-12-05 04:13 PM   #105 
  - How ironic that 'keepthecommandmentsboise.com' favored ignoring - -  IDemo   Sep-12-05 09:42 PM   #128 
  - The study of other religions is part of a decent education.  Iris   Sep-12-05 02:55 PM   #91 
  - So they don't sign the permission slip for their kid to go.  Contrary1   Sep-12-05 03:27 PM   #96 
  - Oh my f------ god!  lilymidnite   Sep-12-05 03:31 PM   #97 
  - And if it were Mother Teresa? Or Ghandi? would they complain? n/t  progressivebydesign   Sep-12-05 03:34 PM   #98 
  - about the smell, I'd guess  northzax   Sep-12-05 03:46 PM   #101 
  - Maybe they are afraid he will make them caddy for him  AngryAmish   Sep-12-05 03:48 PM   #102 
  - One of the great men of our time  MadisonProgressive   Sep-12-05 03:53 PM   #104 
  - Hmmmm, seems to me school officials send kids when the Pope visits  Walt Starr   Sep-12-05 04:15 PM   #106 
  - what a strange country you must live in  iverglas   Sep-12-05 05:46 PM   #122 
  - Too little information  NobleCynic   Sep-12-05 04:19 PM   #107 
  - so you would accept Pat Robertson  northzax   Sep-12-05 04:25 PM   #111 
  - ah, fringe nutballs  iverglas   Sep-12-05 05:35 PM   #119 
  - I'm wondering if this lady would feel the same way if  Skidmore   Sep-12-05 04:22 PM   #108 
  - I would, if Maimonides himself  northzax   Sep-12-05 04:34 PM   #114 
  - why?  iverglas   Sep-12-05 05:05 PM   #115 
     - Just because I am very distrustful of people of any  Skidmore   Sep-12-05 05:13 PM   #116 
        - well, that's one way of characterizing her  iverglas   Sep-12-05 05:28 PM   #117 
  - I demand a SCIENTIFIC theory of Peace and Tranquility be presented, too!!!  Gidney N Cloyd   Sep-12-05 05:40 PM   #120 
  - can i go in their place ?  yorkiemommie1   Sep-12-05 06:12 PM   #123 
  - so none of these idiots ever heard of a "permission slip" ?  anotherdrew   Sep-12-05 06:26 PM   #124 
  - I grow ever more appalled  iverglas   Sep-12-05 07:34 PM   #125 
     - good points, it's all about Anti-China photo-op for this Rethug gov  anotherdrew   Sep-13-05 03:31 PM   #141 
        - I'd meant to make that bit plainer ;)  iverglas   Sep-13-05 03:44 PM   #142 
           - Buddhism is great, but state-run Buddhism in tibet isn't sooo perfect eith  anotherdrew   Sep-13-05 07:19 PM   #145 
  - Yeah,  Bassic   Sep-13-05 09:16 AM   #133 
  - I don't remember this outrage over the Pope visits...  Canuckistanian   Sep-13-05 10:22 AM   #138 
     - and I don't recall public schools sending kids to see the Pope  northzax   Sep-13-05 10:48 AM   #140 
 

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