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16. Hey, Chavez, wanna hire Atty John Dean? . . . take a look . . .
Hey, Chavez, wanna hire Atty John Dean? . . . take a look . . .

Was Pat Robertson's Call For Assassination Of A Foreign Leader A Crime?
Had He Been a Democrat, He'd Probably Be Hiring A Criminal Attorney

by (Attorney) John W. Dean (former counsel to Richard M. Nixon)

Friday, Aug. 26, 2005

On Monday, August 22, the Chairman of the Christian Broadcast Network, Marion "Pat" Robertson, proclaimed, on his 700 Club television show, that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez should be murdered.

More specifically, Robertson said, "You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination," referring to the American policy since the Presidency of Gerald Ford against assassination of foreign leaders, "but if he (Chavez) thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war, and I don't think any oil shipments will stop."

"We have the ability to take him out," Robertson continued, "and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."

Robertson found himself in the middle of a media firestorm. He initially denied he'd called for Chavez to be killed, and claimed he'd been misinterpreted, but in an age of digital recording, Robertson could not flip-flop his way out of his own statement. He said what he said.

. . . snip . . .

The Broad Federal "Threat Attempt" Prohibition Vis--vis Foreign Leaders

Examine first, if you will, the broad prohibition against threatening or intimidating foreign officials, which is a misdemeanor offense. This is found in Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 112(b), which states: "Whoever willfully -- (1) threatens a foreign official , (2) attempts to threaten a foreign official shall be fined under this titled or imprisoned not more than six months, or both."

. . . snip . . .

The Federal Threat Statute: Fines and Prison For Threats to Kidnap or Injure

It is a federal felony to use instruments of interstate or foreign commerce to threaten other people. The statute is clear, and simple. Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 875(c), states: "Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to kidnap any person or any threat to injure the person of another, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both." (Emphases added.)

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  -Venezuela to seek legal action against Robertson Charlie Brown  Aug-28-05 09:51 PM   #0 
  - at last someone with the guts to do what should be done!!! nt  msongs   Aug-28-05 09:55 PM   #1 
  - They'd have a lot of American support, if they did.  Judi Lynn   Aug-28-05 09:55 PM   #2 
  - I can see bolton  zidzi   Aug-28-05 09:58 PM   #7 
     - Here, Here! Viva De Chavez! n/t  icymist   Aug-29-05 12:12 PM   #61 
     - Nah, he's too busy beating his staplers into bunker busters  despairing optimist   Aug-29-05 02:32 PM   #71 
  - I wish I could do something to help the guy kick BUSH'S ASS!!!  NVMojo   Aug-28-05 09:55 PM   #3 
  - Tough Shit,  zidzi   Aug-28-05 09:55 PM   #4 
  - And pat robertson is A DOMESTIC TERRORIST.  calimary   Aug-30-05 08:53 PM   #92 
  - Brilliant, Hugo---  phiddle   Aug-28-05 09:56 PM   #5 
  - It is Brilliant!  zidzi   Aug-28-05 10:01 PM   #10 
  - you can have him  riverwalker   Aug-28-05 09:56 PM   #6 
  - Can we donate to a Venezuelan Legal Fund for this?....  Robeson   Aug-28-05 09:59 PM   #8 
  - Absolutamente!  getmeouttahere   Aug-28-05 10:36 PM   #21 
  - Believers everywhere, please send your donations to the Reverend..  Olney Blue   Aug-28-05 10:00 PM   #9 
  - Good, get that f*&ker Roberson outa here!  BlueEyedSon   Aug-28-05 10:04 PM   #11 
  - Nothing would please me more.....  Old and In the Way   Aug-28-05 10:05 PM   #12 
  - LOL Chavez you Rock!  cal04   Aug-28-05 10:05 PM   #13 
  - I love Hugo!!! He's a leader with backbone and cajones!!  Larkspur   Aug-28-05 10:05 PM   #14 
  - Go Chavez!  Panda1   Aug-28-05 10:06 PM   #15 
  - Hey, Chavez, wanna hire Atty John Dean? . . . take a look . . .  TaleWgnDg   Aug-28-05 10:11 PM   #16 
  - Thanks. I was looking for that .  Gregorian   Aug-28-05 10:23 PM   #20 
  - Coulter is a spineless whimp, a gutless wonder making  TaleWgnDg   Aug-28-05 10:41 PM   #23 
     - wasn't she dropped from an Arizona paper  BareNakedLiberal   Aug-29-05 11:02 PM   #90 
  - thanks for posting that  BareNakedLiberal   Aug-29-05 10:59 PM   #89 
     - You're welcome, and no I don't know who fired Clouter  TaleWgnDg   Aug-30-05 08:50 PM   #91 
  - Nice to know someone has the guts to fight.  Jade Fox   Aug-28-05 10:12 PM   #17 
  - If only our Dems were as brave. n/t  wli   Aug-28-05 10:17 PM   #18 
  - good for him  samsingh   Aug-28-05 10:19 PM   #19 
  - Excellent! Perhaps one of these belligerent loudmouths will stop  leesa   Aug-28-05 10:41 PM   #22 
  - Now if Sweden will do the same thing with Phelps  Mabus   Aug-28-05 10:54 PM   #24 
  - That would be sweet!  GoddessOfGuinness   Aug-29-05 12:19 AM   #30 
  - Given a choice, I'd rather have Robertson ah, "taken out"  belle   Aug-29-05 08:12 AM   #45 
     - Agreed  Mabus   Aug-29-05 06:15 PM   #80 
  - Now Robertson will have to get lawyered up like all Clinton's friends.  1932   Aug-28-05 10:57 PM   #25 
  - ...and, like Kissinger, he'll have to think twice before travelling abroad  1932   Aug-28-05 10:58 PM   #26 
  - Viva Chavez  mitchum   Aug-28-05 10:59 PM   #27 
  - Excellent! I say lock up that Christian Terrorist!  Up2Late   Aug-28-05 11:10 PM   #28 
  - Yah , lol,Put him in the same cell with Judith Miller.  goforit   Aug-29-05 07:58 AM   #44 
  - Can Bush pardon Robertson?  tridim   Aug-28-05 11:26 PM   #29 
  - Not for international crimes, or crimes he was charged with in another  mtnester   Aug-29-05 11:53 AM   #59 
  - I wish someone in our party would demand that federal law be enforced  IChing   Aug-29-05 12:40 AM   #31 
  - I can and do doubt that Robertson violated this law  onenote   Aug-29-05 11:09 AM   #51 
  - Let's all call our leaders and demand Pat's extradition.  genius   Aug-29-05 01:38 AM   #32 
  - Well, he IS a religious extremist  mogster   Aug-29-05 03:32 AM   #33 
  - "Radical Cleric".  TankLV   Aug-29-05 10:33 PM   #87 
  - I can't believe what I'm reading here  Xithras   Aug-29-05 03:55 AM   #34 
  - Well  mogster   Aug-29-05 04:02 AM   #36 
  - it appears that John Dean, Nixon's former counsel, disagrees w/you  ima_sinnic   Aug-29-05 04:13 AM   #37 
  - He's deliberately obfuscating.  Xithras   Aug-29-05 11:39 AM   #58 
  - The US doesn't assassinate heads of state. Roberston was saying  1932   Aug-29-05 12:50 PM   #64 
     - One question about Pat's liability.  pabsungenis   Aug-29-05 04:17 PM   #74 
  - if John Dean is your lawyer, get a money back guarantee  onenote   Aug-29-05 12:57 PM   #67 
  - I think this IS illeagal and  amber dog democrat   Aug-29-05 05:59 AM   #38 
  - VIVA CHEVEZ !!!  amber dog democrat   Aug-29-05 06:02 AM   #39 
  - You are wrong. He called for the assassination of a head of state  leesa   Aug-29-05 07:54 AM   #42 
  - Legally, that world is irrelevant.  Xithras   Aug-29-05 11:24 AM   #56 
     - Uhm, you couldn't be more wrong. Legally, international law is equal to  1932   Aug-29-05 12:55 PM   #66 
  - Relax, it won't fly. What *I'm* hoping, anyway, is...  belle   Aug-29-05 08:14 AM   #46 
  - Now THAT'S something we can ALL hope for!  Xithras   Aug-29-05 11:19 AM   #55 
  - What would have happened if he said the same thing about Bush? NT  LivingInTheBubble   Aug-29-05 08:51 AM   #48 
  - Didn't Clinton send some missiles into Iraq because they talked about...  1932   Aug-29-05 12:58 PM   #68 
  - Why the US has done it  atreides1   Aug-29-05 10:43 AM   #50 
  - Treaties are different  Xithras   Aug-29-05 11:18 AM   #54 
  - well put xithras  onenote   Aug-29-05 11:13 AM   #53 
  - Bullshit! Talking politics and threatening assignation is not the same.  icymist   Aug-29-05 12:34 PM   #63 
     - You would have to prove that influence  Xithras   Aug-29-05 02:21 PM   #70 
        - Or maybe it wouldn't be hard to prove.  1932   Aug-29-05 05:10 PM   #77 
  - Chavez threatens UN complaint, if no action against Robertson  maddezmom   Aug-29-05 03:59 AM   #35 
  - I'm glad THEY are doing something...  CanonRay   Aug-29-05 07:53 AM   #40 
  - Bravo, Hugo !! n/t  REACTIVATED IN CT   Aug-29-05 07:54 AM   #41 
  - Robertson's views death for those who critizise Bush?  goforit   Aug-29-05 07:57 AM   #43 
  - Ron Kuby  LeftyElvis   Aug-29-05 08:50 AM   #47 
  - LMAO  meganmonkey   Aug-29-05 08:54 AM   #49 
  - Fuckin-A!  arwalden   Aug-29-05 11:11 AM   #52 
  - Viva Chavez!  Megahurtz   Aug-29-05 11:36 AM   #57 
  - Go Hugo!  pberq   Aug-29-05 12:01 PM   #60 
  - Oh this is great...  novak goes postal   Aug-29-05 12:31 PM   #62 
  - KICK! Viva Chavez!  chomskysright   Aug-29-05 12:51 PM   #65 
     - TAKE HIM OOT!  bejammin075   Aug-29-05 02:12 PM   #69 
        - I think it's an affectation. I'm sure he has always been an American.  Judi Lynn   Aug-29-05 02:38 PM   #72 
           - Clearly its the accent of the Holy Spirit  shadowknows69   Aug-29-05 05:56 PM   #78 
  - Way to piss off Latin America, Pat.  neuvocat   Aug-29-05 03:56 PM   #73 
  - You Can Have the Thief  stepnw1f   Aug-29-05 04:21 PM   #75 
  - Flame away but  shadowknows69   Aug-29-05 05:02 PM   #76 
  - No flame,  ozone_man   Aug-29-05 06:22 PM   #81 
  - Curious  rmgarrette64   Aug-29-05 06:29 PM   #82 
  - Good point but...  shadowknows69   Aug-29-05 08:11 PM   #84 
  - Can't disagree with you there.  TankLV   Aug-29-05 10:38 PM   #88 
  - I love Hugo Chavez!  Joanne98   Aug-29-05 06:08 PM   #79 
  - In a global popularity contest  NeoConsSuck   Aug-29-05 06:39 PM   #83 
  - whether the suit is won or not doesn't matter to me  NJCher   Aug-29-05 09:23 PM   #85 
     - Me too  Chovexani   Aug-29-05 10:01 PM   #86 

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