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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-25-05 05:05 PM
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6. I'm surprised Specter is fooling around with this
Its a RW kook story and it will burn anybody with a previously good reputation who associates themselves with it. Media Matters for America has some good articles on the Able Danger hoax. Outfits like Faux News will still run with the Able Danger story so they can blame Bill Clinton for 9/11.

The CIA has concluded its investigation of intelligence handling leading up to 9/11. It hasn't been released yet. My guess is that anything that happened after Clinton left office will be kept classified, and anything that went wrong while Clinton was still in office will be published or at least leaked. Then the RWs will go on to the new story about Clinton causing 9/11 and let the Able Danger matter die out.

The media will give the RW version of all of this, rather than having to explain why they never let the public know about Bush calling off the hunt for Bin Laden or refusing to hear anything from his staff about terrorism. The media also never told anyone that there was no such thing as the "Gorelick wall" or that John Ashcroft made up the whole Gorelick wall story to distract attention from his perjury before the 9/11 commission, and the reasons behind it. It will be much easier for the media to take the "Its Bill Clinton's fault" approach.

There's no sense in anyone on the left pushing this story, unless they hate Bill Clinton. That's who is most likely to get hurt by this.
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  -Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing seemslikeadream  Aug-25-05 04:18 PM   #0 
  - !!!!  Tom Kitten   Aug-25-05 04:20 PM   #1 
  - but they'll never talk about the protected heroin trafficking n/t  wli   Aug-25-05 04:20 PM   #2 
  - Watch out,, it happened on Clinton's watch  wakeme2008   Aug-25-05 04:22 PM   #3 
  - COVER ATTA'S FACE WITH POST IT NOTES Schoomaker & Zelikow  seemslikeadream   Aug-25-05 04:25 PM   #4 
  - IMO, that's what this is all about.  AtomicKitten   Aug-25-05 05:11 PM   #9 
     - But "they" don't know where Able Danger will lead  seemslikeadream   Aug-25-05 05:14 PM   #10 
     - ah yes  AtomicKitten   Aug-25-05 05:35 PM   #11 
     - It's Clenis' s fault  CityDem   Aug-26-05 01:01 AM   #26 
     - Or else it's an excuse to remove all remaining barriers to a police state.  lostnfound   Aug-28-05 02:13 PM   #49 
     - Better save this article and text then:  cyberpj   Aug-29-05 03:36 PM   #59 
  - They May....or....  stillcool47   Aug-25-05 05:05 PM   #5 
  - I'm surprised Specter is fooling around with this  creeksneakers2   Aug-25-05 05:05 PM   #6 
  - The question will be asked  seemslikeadream   Aug-25-05 05:10 PM   #8 
     - There was no information to give Bill Clinton  creeksneakers2   Aug-25-05 05:40 PM   #12 
     - Where is your proof of that  seemslikeadream   Aug-25-05 05:42 PM   #13 
     - There's more information on this on Media Matters for America  creeksneakers2   Aug-25-05 08:30 PM   #17 
        - It would be helpful if you could post links  seemslikeadream   Aug-25-05 08:34 PM   #18 
           -  creeksneakers2   Aug-25-05 08:42 PM   #19 
              - Maybe you haven't read that link through?  seemslikeadream   Aug-25-05 09:02 PM   #21 
     - Shoomaker and Zelikow are involved  Frederik   Aug-25-05 06:17 PM   #14 
        - Zelikow is to 9/11 what Dulles was to Warren: a rooster in the henhouse.  robertpaulsen   Aug-25-05 07:06 PM   #16 
           - Exactly  Frederik   Aug-26-05 06:24 AM   #27 
     - Answer: To Save For A Rainy Day . . .  Dinger   Aug-29-05 09:30 AM   #56 
  - Limpballs has been talking up the Able Danger story  zoeb   Aug-25-05 05:09 PM   #7 
  - Able Danger is a Pandora's Box that will blow up in the RW's face.  robertpaulsen   Aug-25-05 06:33 PM   #15 
  - Nice job of weaving  Dragonfly   Aug-25-05 08:58 PM   #20 
  - Was that Colleen Rowley?  robertpaulsen   Aug-26-05 04:51 PM   #41 
     - Yes, it is Ms. Rowley, who has recently  Dragonfly   Aug-26-05 08:27 PM   #43 
  - Yep. Treason and mutiny and preparation for a complete coup.  Just Me   Aug-25-05 09:21 PM   #22 
  - 7 COUNTRIES!?!  Amonester   Aug-26-05 12:04 AM   #25 
  - Yep. And Wes Clark knows exactly which seven were named.  robertpaulsen   Aug-28-05 04:38 PM   #53 
  - They were all hitting off the same opium pipe.  Old and In the Way   Aug-29-05 07:54 PM   #63 
  - Just read the devastating piece on A.Q. Khan and Richard Cheney....  MadeinOhio   Aug-29-05 08:08 AM   #55 
  - Maybe Bush...  StrafingMoose   Aug-29-05 03:16 PM   #58 
  - Plausible denialbility?  Old and In the Way   Aug-29-05 08:04 PM   #65 
  - Thank you.....the missing link.  Old and In the Way   Aug-29-05 07:26 PM   #61 
  - There's a solution, call more meetings. nt  VegasWolf   Aug-25-05 09:22 PM   #23 
  - Senate panel chair asks FBI for Atta info  seemslikeadream   Aug-25-05 10:48 PM   #24 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-26-05 08:23 AM   #28 
  - I don't believe he was able to take any original documents  seemslikeadream   Aug-26-05 08:28 AM   #29 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-26-05 08:55 AM   #35 
     - RedOak says  seemslikeadream   Aug-26-05 09:04 AM   #36 
  - Oh please. Burger didn't take any originals only copies  underpants   Aug-26-05 08:28 AM   #30 
  - They are using this to redefine "data mining" (noticed?)  underpants   Aug-26-05 08:30 AM   #31 
  - I'm trying to notice everything about this story underpants  seemslikeadream   Aug-26-05 08:37 AM   #33 
     - Whoops!  underpants   Aug-26-05 08:47 AM   #34 
  - Betcha the data mining software used was the same that Michael Ruppert  Pachamama   Aug-27-05 04:37 AM   #46 
     - I believe you're referring to P-Tech.  robertpaulsen   Aug-29-05 06:07 PM   #60 
  - Hey Weldon--STOP BLAMING AMERICA!!!!  underpants   Aug-26-05 08:31 AM   #32 
  - There are many other National Security Veterans/Experts  StateSecrets   Aug-26-05 12:22 PM   #37 
  - "Fixing facts around policy",..."fixing witnesses around policy",...  Just Me   Aug-26-05 12:37 PM   #38 
  - DO THE MATH  seemslikeadream   Aug-26-05 01:00 PM   #39 
  - Welcome onboard States Secrets!  Old and In the Way   Aug-29-05 08:14 PM   #66 
  - Right and unless they target Pat Roberts, Dick Cheney, and Porter Goss  lala_rawraw   Aug-26-05 01:41 PM   #40 
  - History PROVES that, the failure to enforce complete accountability,...  Just Me   Aug-26-05 05:11 PM   #42 
  - Kristen Breitweiser Enabling Danger  seemslikeadream   Aug-26-05 11:00 PM   #44 
  - Wouldn't it be interesting if.......  howmad1   Aug-26-05 11:22 PM   #45 
  - Third Source Backs 'Able Danger' Claims About Atta  seemslikeadream   Aug-27-05 08:41 AM   #47 
  - I can't find the New York Post article "Military 'Spied' on Rice."  seemslikeadream   Aug-27-05 01:22 PM   #48 
  - WTC Janitor Has Jersey Apartment Burglarized  beetbox   Aug-28-05 02:50 PM   #51 
  - "Military Spied on Rice" link  cosmicdot   Aug-29-05 07:48 PM   #62 
  - Events leading up to 9/11 is no longer there, it was there a few day ago  pirhana   Aug-28-05 02:36 PM   #50 
  - try it again  cosmicdot   Aug-29-05 07:57 PM   #64 
  - Able Danger: More Mysteries Time Magazine  seemslikeadream   Aug-28-05 04:35 PM   #52 
  - Very interesting.......  Old and In the Way   Aug-29-05 08:33 PM   #67 
     - Something tells me Weldon doesn't read MadcowNews!  seemslikeadream   Aug-29-05 08:45 PM   #69 
  - Weldon says subpoenas to a congressional hearing are coming.  seemslikeadream   Aug-29-05 08:03 AM   #54 
  - From your Nesmax link....(chuckle)  Old and In the Way   Aug-29-05 08:38 PM   #68 
  - Abramoff connection?  seemslikeadream   Aug-29-05 02:54 PM   #57 
  - Our vision of humanity surpasses their greed and gluttony. n/t  Just Me   Aug-29-05 08:49 PM   #70 
  - Excellent thread by understandinglife  seemslikeadream   Aug-30-05 07:11 AM   #71 
  - Condi in Middle of Able Danger Cover Up  seemslikeadream   Aug-30-05 09:41 AM   #72 
     - Kick. Thanks for staying on top of this!  robertpaulsen   Aug-30-05 06:59 PM   #73 

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