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Sat Aug-20-05 10:43 PM
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| 91. ALPA doesn't announce that in advance. |
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We've been working to keep the company out of Chapter 11. Pilots have already given one round of pay cuts, and we expect to give another round, perhaps even larger than the first, as soon as the other labor group contracts have been settled.
The PFAA is in a very difficult situation along with all of the other labor groups. NWA used a "take it or leave it" approach to negotiations with AMFA, and I expect they will do the same with the flight attendants. ALPA will not get involved in that.
ALPA will do what it deems to be in the best interest of the pilots. Since we "marry" an airline when we get hired, keeping NWA viable is important. With the company in such poor financial shape, shutting down the operation with a sympathy strike might jeopardize that---of course, if we determine that it is in our best interest to strike, we will.
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| -Northwest Airlines: STRIKE IS ON |
Bluebear |
Aug-19-05 11:05 PM |
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damn. I would book a flight on Northwest for September. |
yellowdogintexas |
Aug-19-05 11:08 PM |
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Their pay was going to be cut 25%. That's a damn good reason. |
merwin |
Aug-19-05 11:10 PM |
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that is my major concern, actually. |
yellowdogintexas |
Aug-19-05 11:26 PM |
#14 |
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Actually this is no longer accurate |
cpamomfromtexas |
Aug-19-05 11:56 PM |
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Unions are DEAD in America. The Re-thugs have seen to this starting |
bribri16 |
Aug-20-05 10:41 PM |
#90 |
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Well the Rethugs and Mr. Soros |
auburnblu |
Aug-21-05 06:41 PM |
#118 |
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I don't usually use Northwest |
tavalon |
Aug-19-05 11:54 PM |
#26 |
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I like your karma. nt |
Bluebear |
Aug-20-05 01:05 AM |
#37 |
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Good for you. I'm a nurse who was on strike a few years ago |
BleedingHeartPatriot |
Aug-20-05 07:48 AM |
#61 |
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Mechanics would not give in to $76 million in concessions.... |
Bluebear |
Aug-19-05 11:11 PM |
#3 |
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PS good luck on your flight |
Bluebear |
Aug-19-05 11:14 PM |
#5 |
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They'll continue outsourcing to the Phillippines |
TomClash |
Aug-20-05 05:16 AM |
#46 |
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I still haven't shopped at Albertsons since they locked out their |
SimpleTrend |
Aug-19-05 11:18 PM |
#9 |
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Never EVER cross a picket line |
Gman |
Aug-20-05 12:18 AM |
#31 |
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Never say never. |
Psephos |
Aug-20-05 01:36 AM |
#38 |
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This union was being asked to cut its workforce by 50% |
Bluebear |
Aug-20-05 01:40 AM |
#39 |
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True, but my comments weren't specific to this case, |
Psephos |
Aug-20-05 01:53 AM |
#42 |
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All true points |
Bluebear |
Aug-20-05 03:12 AM |
#45 |
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Would the "high cost structures" you are referring to be |
Jose Diablo |
Aug-20-05 08:11 AM |
#64 |
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Labor costs are not the problem |
Psephos |
Aug-21-05 12:25 AM |
#104 |
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Good link there. |
Joebert |
Aug-21-05 05:28 PM |
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Heh, you make a very apt comparison... |
Psephos |
Aug-21-05 11:07 PM |
#120 |
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You are correct |
cpamomfromtexas |
Aug-21-05 11:03 PM |
#119 |
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where is overcapacity? |
pitohui |
Aug-20-05 02:16 PM |
#78 |
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overcapacity --> idle planes, freeloaders |
rfkrfk |
Aug-20-05 11:50 PM |
#98 |
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Let me clarify and be specific. |
Gman |
Aug-20-05 11:42 PM |
#95 |
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First United screwing its own loyal employees out of their pension and |
tmooses |
Aug-19-05 11:14 PM |
#4 |
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Meanwhile the top officials sold off their stock |
Bluebear |
Aug-19-05 11:17 PM |
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Not to forget that UAL employees have given back |
Jensen |
Aug-19-05 11:32 PM |
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United's employee-owners screwed themselves, |
rfkrfk |
Aug-19-05 11:48 PM |
#24 |
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How in the world would you know anything about it? |
iamtechus |
Aug-20-05 12:21 AM |
#32 |
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Good! UNION YES! |
CountAllVotes |
Aug-19-05 11:17 PM |
#6 |
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These companies make me so mad.... |
halobeam |
Aug-19-05 11:18 PM |
#8 |
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As I said to someone earlier |
KitchenWitch |
Aug-19-05 11:22 PM |
#10 |
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Oh and I recommended this to the Greatest page |
KitchenWitch |
Aug-19-05 11:28 PM |
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Mechanics on strike-airline-sky-no net??? Won't be flying this airline |
MichiganVote |
Aug-19-05 11:22 PM |
#11 |
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at least you have a choice |
GAspnes |
Aug-20-05 02:52 PM |
#82 |
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Yikes! |
MichiganVote |
Aug-20-05 03:50 PM |
#85 |
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I live in MN...been following this story for weeks... |
Beausoir |
Aug-19-05 11:23 PM |
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and remember it is the american tax payer who will be picking up |
flyarm |
Aug-20-05 05:32 AM |
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My father-in-law, a staunch, *-loving, dyed-in-the-wool Republican |
phylny |
Aug-21-05 05:52 AM |
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I would never cross a picket line for a flight. I've walked too many of |
tmooses |
Aug-19-05 11:24 PM |
#13 |
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Solidarity. |
Bluebear |
Aug-19-05 11:42 PM |
#20 |
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Good for you |
cpamomfromtexas |
Aug-20-05 12:01 AM |
#28 |
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I wish the workers luck |
bluestateguy |
Aug-19-05 11:26 PM |
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Where are the pilots? And the flight attendants? |
Beausoir |
Aug-19-05 11:34 PM |
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NW already hired flight attendant scabs in advance |
Bluebear |
Aug-19-05 11:39 PM |
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are pilots crossing the picket line, or not? n/t |
rfkrfk |
Aug-19-05 11:44 PM |
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Crossing. |
Bluebear |
Aug-20-05 01:43 AM |
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do any Dem party leaders, have a position on, crossing picket lines? |
rfkrfk |
Aug-20-05 02:55 AM |
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the pilots ought to do what american pilots did years ago... |
flyarm |
Aug-20-05 05:44 AM |
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i heard from an insider that these things have been going on the past week |
bettyellen |
Aug-20-05 07:33 AM |
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That's bullshit. |
tedzbear |
Aug-20-05 11:52 PM |
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Capt. McClain is a smiling face, stabbing his union bros in the back. |
tedzbear |
Aug-20-05 11:48 PM |
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WCCO: NWA Mechanics Strike |
KitchenWitch |
Aug-19-05 11:42 PM |
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Bushler will just send in stormtroopers to kill them n/t |
wli |
Aug-19-05 11:46 PM |
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That poor woman. Does anyone think of the ones that suffer in a strike. |
progressivebydesign |
Aug-19-05 11:54 PM |
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Just another reason to not fly Northwest. |
TahitiNut |
Aug-20-05 12:03 AM |
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Ditto that .... There are certain lines in life no one should cross. |
converted_democrat |
Aug-20-05 07:16 AM |
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aka NORTHWORST - CEO Steenland rakes in millions |
gulfcoastliberal |
Aug-21-05 12:01 AM |
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don't blame NWA management, a snake is a snake |
rfkrfk |
Aug-21-05 02:44 AM |
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Your damn right about that - the pilots and flight attendants |
gulfcoastliberal |
Aug-21-05 03:11 PM |
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eh? |
Bluebear |
Aug-21-05 03:15 PM |
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this is OUTRAGEOUS!!! |
Tom Kitten |
Aug-20-05 12:10 AM |
#30 |
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is it outrageous |
pitohui |
Aug-20-05 02:22 PM |
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that information is often misrepresented |
kahleefornia |
Aug-20-05 11:41 PM |
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It's not their fault that they make more than you |
Bluebear |
Aug-21-05 12:51 AM |
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I fly a lot on business |
DBoon |
Aug-21-05 06:29 PM |
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republican in office |
sue_66 |
Aug-20-05 12:28 AM |
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Me too |
KitchenWitch |
Aug-20-05 12:37 AM |
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Company also proposed a 50% cut in personnel |
Bluebear |
Aug-20-05 12:48 AM |
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This F'in Sucks |
Sgent |
Aug-20-05 12:49 AM |
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MEM is supposed to be least affected by strike |
pitohui |
Aug-20-05 02:24 PM |
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is sacrifice by all socialist? |
fortyfeetunder |
Aug-20-05 01:49 AM |
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Concessions by execs? Hah! They recently took bonuses! n/t |
salin |
Aug-20-05 07:31 AM |
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The dismantiling of trade unions |
nookiemonster |
Aug-20-05 03:03 AM |
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my heart goes out to NORTHWEST UNIONS AND EMPLOYEES! |
flyarm |
Aug-20-05 05:26 AM |
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Same experience. All the young pilots I know are very pro-bush* |
Turn CO Blue |
Aug-20-05 03:07 PM |
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is any Other union, honoring the picket line? n/t |
rfkrfk |
Aug-20-05 06:37 AM |
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A couple of facts for you all. |
Puglover |
Aug-20-05 06:40 AM |
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what is the company's incentive, to do business with AMFA ? |
rfkrfk |
Aug-20-05 07:22 AM |
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well stated |
BlueCollar |
Aug-20-05 09:39 AM |
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Exactly right Blue |
Puglover |
Aug-20-05 10:00 AM |
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The fact is that NWA are corporate assholes |
BlueCollar |
Aug-20-05 10:18 AM |
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Bullshit. |
tedzbear |
Aug-21-05 12:13 AM |
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You aren't even aware that AMFA isn't AFL-CIO therefore not |
Puglover |
Aug-21-05 06:04 AM |
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No sympathy strikes |
Sgent |
Aug-20-05 06:52 AM |
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Union bickering is what Management LOVES. |
tedzbear |
Aug-21-05 12:28 AM |
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Northwest Mechanics ~ This AFSCME sister is |
AFSCME girl |
Aug-20-05 07:03 AM |
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poor lady |
Swamp Rat |
Aug-20-05 07:08 AM |
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Flight Attendants voted last night to not sympathy strike. |
peacebuzzard |
Aug-20-05 07:40 AM |
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define 'safe/unsafe', when planes are fixed by scabs , n/t |
rfkrfk |
Aug-20-05 08:08 AM |
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I have no answer. |
peacebuzzard |
Aug-20-05 08:35 AM |
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Ummm |
Puglover |
Aug-20-05 08:10 AM |
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And I am on my way. I never thought it would come to this. |
peacebuzzard |
Aug-20-05 08:27 AM |
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Will the CEO still get his bonus? |
Catchawave |
Aug-20-05 07:47 AM |
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Once Northwest has broken the Mechanics Union |
fasttense |
Aug-20-05 08:29 AM |
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I may have to go to Japan later in the fall or winter, and I will cobble |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Aug-20-05 08:58 AM |
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Uh-oh. My SO travels for work and they always fly NW |
meganmonkey |
Aug-20-05 08:59 AM |
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I would never cross a picket line for any reason. |
mbperrin |
Aug-20-05 09:42 AM |
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Maybe they should let them walk.... |
DubyaSux |
Aug-20-05 09:47 AM |
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Let me give you some more information |
Bluebear |
Aug-20-05 01:00 PM |
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Huh? |
DubyaSux |
Aug-20-05 02:43 PM |
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Where did you hear they asked for $92,000 a year? |
Bluebear |
Aug-20-05 03:06 PM |
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Facts. |
mn9driver |
Aug-20-05 04:15 PM |
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Do they work 40 hours a week? |
kahleefornia |
Aug-20-05 11:56 PM |
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many people aren't |
kahleefornia |
Aug-20-05 11:54 PM |
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Wow, you win the prize for being misinformed! |
LTRS |
Aug-21-05 01:47 AM |
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I feel sorry for these folks.. |
sendero |
Aug-20-05 10:08 AM |
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Well, there goes another airline. |
yibbehobba |
Aug-20-05 10:16 AM |
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The workers here (and I know I'll get flamed big time) are not right. |
DuaneBidoux |
Aug-20-05 04:18 PM |
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but why is it always the workers who have |
libnnc |
Aug-20-05 04:21 PM |
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Absolutely. i don't disagree with that one bit! If I were a shareholder |
DuaneBidoux |
Aug-21-05 03:56 PM |
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will pilots strike, when flight attendants are replaced by scabs? n/t |
rfkrfk |
Aug-20-05 10:13 PM |
#89 |
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ALPA doesn't announce that in advance. |
mn9driver |
Aug-20-05 10:43 PM |
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good strategy |
rfkrfk |
Aug-20-05 11:09 PM |
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You will be sorry you are crossing the picket line. |
tedzbear |
Aug-21-05 12:42 AM |
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and George Bush goes on with his life. |
gort |
Aug-20-05 11:10 PM |
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He's got free airfare and security for life |
Joebert |
Aug-21-05 05:30 PM |
#116 |
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STAND UP FOR AMERICAN WORKERS..... |
mike_c |
Aug-20-05 11:46 PM |
#96 |
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