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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 02:23 PM
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61. Someone who doesn't seem to have a clue about this aspect
Edited on Tue Aug-09-05 02:34 PM by Judi Lynn
of American history of interfering in Latin America through propping up vicious dictators could get a lightning fast condensed idea from looking at these sketches. If you've read here long, no doubt you've already seen them used to help people who are struggling!

Hugo Chavez has had a chance to see our handiwork much farther back than just his term as Venezuela's President. He lead a coup unsuccessfully against a vicious, dirty dictator, Carlos Andres Perez, who is also a friend of George H. W. Bush. Carlos Andres Perez ordered his military to fire into a crowd of poor people who were protesting the fact he had significantly raised their only transportation costs: buses, far, far more than they could afford.
The massacre was called "El Caracazo."

Click on the thumbnails if you wish to see photos of this event:

Hugo Chavez was later pardoned by a following Venezuelan President, and Carlos Andres Perez was impeached for massive corruption. He is a prominent voice in the Venezuelan "opposition" currently, living at times in New York, or Miami, and calling for the assassination of Hugo Chavez.

On edit: Excuse, needed to clarify I didn't mean YOU are the one without a clue. Wanted to clear that up! Thanks.
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  -Venezuela warns against US invasion cal04  Aug-09-05 01:10 AM   #0 
  - So many countries to beat up  sushi   Aug-09-05 01:19 AM   #1 
  - But, hey, Lybia's our good friend now! (eom)  StevieM   Aug-09-05 01:23 AM   #3 
  - read the quote in my sig line  toey   Aug-09-05 10:08 AM   #9 
  - Your sig line -- Michael Ledeen  Eloriel   Aug-09-05 12:36 PM   #45 
  - Wonder how many CIA are part of the US students? n/t  bribri16   Aug-09-05 12:02 PM   #35 
     - That's a good question.  Bassic   Aug-09-05 01:51 PM   #53 
  - Could be  burrowowl   Aug-09-05 01:21 AM   #2 
  - Dont forget the ethnic cleansing that started it all EOM  K-W   Aug-09-05 10:10 AM   #10 
  - Venezuela's oil is "Lite Sweet Crude".. the benchmark of Quality, little  sam sarrha   Aug-09-05 01:28 AM   #4 
  - Socialism represents the Total Population, Capitalism only bout 2% richest  sam sarrha   Aug-09-05 01:30 AM   #5 
  - Venezuela warns against US invasion  norml   Aug-09-05 01:38 AM   #6 
  - Bush would have no qualms about invading Venezuela . . .  OneBlueSky   Aug-09-05 01:38 AM   #7 
     - Idiot used his only "Get out of jail free" card w/Iraq, The world will not  FreeStateDemocrat   Aug-09-05 01:37 PM   #50 
  - My partner's grandfather...  nine23   Aug-09-05 01:44 AM   #8 
  - Can't take Chavez seriously after this remark:  DFWdem   Aug-09-05 11:33 AM   #11 
  - Genocide of the population of North America?  not systems   Aug-09-05 11:38 AM   #12 
  - Well, let's see...  DFWdem   Aug-09-05 11:44 AM   #28 
     - You are correct  RetroLounge   Aug-09-05 11:48 AM   #30 
     - I'm proud too  DFWdem   Aug-09-05 11:57 AM   #33 
     - "We're not as bad as Hitler" - the new amerikkkan slogan.  TankLV   Aug-09-05 04:04 PM   #71 
     - The US is responsible  Bassic   Aug-09-05 01:58 PM   #55 
     - My point exactly  DFWdem   Aug-09-05 02:03 PM   #56 
        - Well you have to take his comment into context  Bassic   Aug-09-05 02:09 PM   #58 
        - Someone who doesn't seem to have a clue about this aspect  Judi Lynn   Aug-09-05 02:23 PM   #61 
        - The overthrow of the socialist Guatamalean government which  JimmyJazz   Aug-09-05 07:06 PM   #73 
           - It is inacurate in our perspective.  Bassic   Aug-10-05 06:50 AM   #83 
        - Or he didnt expect people to interpret his words rediculously.  K-W   Aug-09-05 02:15 PM   #59 
           - He is a head of state  DFWdem   Aug-09-05 02:23 PM   #62 
              - And I thought you were being rediculous before.  K-W   Aug-09-05 02:36 PM   #65 
                 - You're right  DFWdem   Aug-09-05 02:43 PM   #66 
                    - When you feel like responding to something I actually said,  K-W   Aug-09-05 03:02 PM   #69 
                       - Okay then, here you go  DFWdem   Aug-10-05 02:15 PM   #93 
                          - You are again responding to something I did not say, but  K-W   Aug-10-05 02:55 PM   #97 
                             - Well...  DFWdem   Aug-10-05 03:24 PM   #101 
                                - Yah, the US is no more imperialistic than Sweden :p  K-W   Aug-10-05 03:35 PM   #104 
                                   - Depends on how you look at it  DFWdem   Aug-10-05 03:51 PM   #106 
                                      - Perhaps  K-W   Aug-10-05 04:02 PM   #108 
     - Your pResident supports a brutal dictator right now.  Judi Lynn   Aug-09-05 04:50 PM   #72 
     - Don't forget how we invaded Haiti and REINSTATED SLAVERY  TroubleMan   Aug-09-05 08:18 PM   #77 
  - Really, I can still take him seriously, perhaps thats just your problem  K-W   Aug-09-05 11:55 AM   #31 
  - Whatever  DFWdem   Aug-09-05 12:10 PM   #37 
     - Maybe Chavez doesnt care  K-W   Aug-09-05 12:19 PM   #40 
        - He doesn't need me to blow it out of proportion  DFWdem   Aug-09-05 12:24 PM   #43 
           - All evidence suggests otherwise.  K-W   Aug-09-05 12:29 PM   #44 
  - Look at it from the Latin American perspective....  cire4   Aug-09-05 12:10 PM   #36 
  - Exactly.  Minstrel Boy   Aug-09-05 12:16 PM   #39 
  - Much of it was done clandestinely, too.  Judi Lynn   Aug-09-05 12:23 PM   #42 
  - Spain  Pystoff   Aug-09-05 01:45 PM   #51 
  - It goes back too far for collective memory.  Bassic   Aug-10-05 07:05 AM   #84 
     - Yeah we get credit for the last 100 years  Pystoff   Aug-10-05 09:49 AM   #92 
  - Very, very important point!  Zhade   Aug-09-05 08:05 PM   #76 
  - If You Go Back to Colonial Days  ribofunk   Aug-09-05 02:23 PM   #63 
  - Well, unfortunately...  Mr. Peanut   Aug-09-05 07:58 PM   #75 
  - Chavez was right on the mark  donheld   Aug-10-05 03:21 PM   #100 
     - Just the way our control obsessed right-wing likes it, too.  Judi Lynn   Aug-10-05 04:02 PM   #109 
  - Chavez: U.S. will ''bite the dust'' if it invades Venezuela  sabra   Aug-09-05 11:39 AM   #13 
  - He just isn't gonna be happy unless we invade him.  yibbehobba   Aug-09-05 11:39 AM   #14 
  - More like he's convinced it will happen.  Bassic   Aug-10-05 07:09 AM   #85 
     - Actually, it was a VERY ugly friend of the Bushes who already nationalized  Judi Lynn   Aug-10-05 08:34 AM   #87 
        - Indeed.  Bassic   Aug-10-05 08:38 AM   #88 
           - You bet. Undoubted the entire vile contents of the violent right-wing  Judi Lynn   Aug-10-05 08:46 AM   #91 
  - Hey, only bush can talk that way.  Gregorian   Aug-09-05 11:39 AM   #15 
  - Viva Chavez!  getmeouttahere   Aug-09-05 11:39 AM   #16 
  - "We must stop the dictator of Venezuela!"*  bluestateguy   Aug-09-05 11:40 AM   #17 
  - We must stop the dictator of the US!  mom cat   Aug-09-05 11:40 AM   #20 
  - Hate radio in America is  zidzi   Aug-09-05 11:40 AM   #22 
  - He's wise to keep Bush's threat to Venezuela in front of the world's eyes.  Judi Lynn   Aug-09-05 11:40 AM   #18 
  - Yes, he's been doing this for quite a while.  cliss   Aug-09-05 11:40 AM   #23 
     - He really knows how to deter a mugger!  Mairead   Aug-09-05 01:36 PM   #49 
  - Viva Chavez!  justinsb   Aug-09-05 11:40 AM   #19 
  - Why does Chavez get a pass? he strongly supports a military dictatorship  underthedome   Aug-09-05 11:40 AM   #25 
     - Chavez has overcome great odds in just staying in power  justinsb   Aug-09-05 11:46 AM   #29 
     - Question re: Cuba  DFWdem   Aug-09-05 01:48 PM   #52 
        - You may feel a need to start filling in the gaps in your awareness  Judi Lynn   Aug-09-05 02:03 PM   #57 
        - That's why I'm asking Judi Lynn  DFWdem   Aug-09-05 02:29 PM   #64 
        - We can't jump start your brain, can we?  Judi Lynn   Aug-09-05 02:59 PM   #68 
           - So what is your complaint exactly?  DFWdem   Aug-10-05 02:28 PM   #95 
              - Drop the embargo. Period.  Judi Lynn   Aug-10-05 02:34 PM   #96 
                 - Okay, end the embargo  DFWdem   Aug-10-05 03:10 PM   #98 
                    - You apparently never realized the Russians put the missiles in place  Judi Lynn   Aug-10-05 03:20 PM   #99 
                       - And after we put nukes in Turkey.  K-W   Aug-10-05 03:24 PM   #102 
                       - No, I realized that  DFWdem   Aug-10-05 03:29 PM   #103 
                          - The USSR was motivated by missles in Turkey.  K-W   Aug-10-05 03:41 PM   #105 
                             - That's right. There were far more raids and attacks going on, too.  Judi Lynn   Aug-10-05 03:58 PM   #107 
        - I'm reading Richard Gott's _Cuba_  1932   Aug-09-05 08:39 PM   #78 
        - Well, who else would want ot trade with them?  Bassic   Aug-10-05 07:18 AM   #86 
           - Cuba has trading partners with countries all over the world.  Judi Lynn   Aug-10-05 08:40 AM   #89 
              - I'm curious to see just how much influence this guy is going to have.  Bassic   Aug-10-05 08:45 AM   #90 
     - that made me uncomfortable, too  killbotfactory   Aug-09-05 01:01 PM   #47 
     - "Cuba's military dictatorship"?? Get another supplier, guy, your one is  Mairead   Aug-09-05 01:30 PM   #48 
     - Chavez isnt our president and he doesnt arm anyone. EOM  K-W   Aug-09-05 01:55 PM   #54 
     - and Bush kisses the Saudis  ButterflyBlood   Aug-09-05 09:20 PM   #81 
  - bush had the crazy idea to  zidzi   Aug-09-05 11:40 AM   #21 
  - We're already biting the dust in Iraq  XemaSab   Aug-09-05 11:40 AM   #24 
  - Hugo cracks me up!  Gyre   Aug-09-05 11:40 AM   #26 
  - and speaking of cuba, I find it totally funny that because they are  okieinpain   Aug-09-05 11:40 AM   #27 
  - BushCo Is more likely to get rid of Chavez in a Helicopter explosion  mirandapriestly   Aug-09-05 08:54 PM   #80 
     - Do you remember this helicopter crash?  Judi Lynn   Aug-10-05 01:34 AM   #82 
  - WOW!!!........Chavez certainly tells it like it is.  goforit   Aug-09-05 11:55 AM   #32 
  - What is Bush going to use to attack Venezuela, his good looks? -puke-  VegasWolf   Aug-09-05 12:00 PM   #34 
  - Seems like Red China isn't the problem anymore. Pink Venezuela is.  HypnoToad   Aug-09-05 12:15 PM   #38 
  - Chavez needs to chill & wait his turn, we gotta do Iran first.  splat@14   Aug-09-05 12:20 PM   #41 
  - Don't forget Canada  TrogL   Aug-09-05 03:05 PM   #70 
  - You may want to hold off on the rhetoric until next month Hugo  StaggerLee   Aug-09-05 12:36 PM   #46 
  - Support VZ and Hugo: Buy gas at Citgo  Barkley   Aug-09-05 02:20 PM   #60 
  - right on! i almost ran out the other day because i only fill up at citgo.  lakeguy   Aug-09-05 07:29 PM   #74 
  - Hugo calls US "Savage Empire." Our reputation preceeds us. nt  VegasWolf   Aug-09-05 02:47 PM   #67 
  - The pResident and his cabal are so freakin unbelieveable  Greylyn58   Aug-09-05 08:39 PM   #79 
  - Venezuela Warns Illegal Diamond Miners to Leave  Judi Lynn   Aug-10-05 02:23 PM   #94 

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