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Fri Oct-17-03 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #44 |
| 45. some indigenous medicine was quite effective |
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I know this is a bit OT but medicine men were just that -- healers. They used natural means as well as appeals to the spirit world. They could set broken bones, treat various illnesses with herbs found in their jungle home. One Western researcher reported that tribesmen could close up a gash, one that would have ordinarily required stitches, with a natural paste. He himself suffered such a gash and reported that it not only healed properly, it did not leave a scar.
Yes, I know this can't compare to MRIs and cancer surgery. But please realize that the indigenous took advantage of their own scientific discoveries, small as they might have been
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| -Power of prayer found wanting in hospital trial |
emad aisat sana |
Oct-15-03 07:58 AM |
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Looks like Rush is in deep shit. n/t |
rooboy |
Oct-15-03 08:01 AM |
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Mixed feelings on this. |
trotsky |
Oct-15-03 08:06 AM |
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I entirely agree |
sybylla |
Oct-15-03 08:13 AM |
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Maybe it was commissioned by Opus Dei, hoping for a |
emad aisat sana |
Oct-15-03 08:18 AM |
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Theists have managed to shift the burden of proof, unfortunately |
DavidD |
Oct-15-03 08:26 AM |
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Think of it more as a refutation of *psychic* powers... |
MojoKrunch |
Oct-15-03 08:32 AM |
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True, but... |
trotsky |
Oct-15-03 08:38 AM |
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Ok and... |
MojoKrunch |
Oct-15-03 07:23 PM |
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Can you do me just one favor? |
trotsky |
Oct-15-03 08:52 PM |
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Let me know if I'm boring you... :D |
MojoKrunch |
Oct-16-03 09:59 AM |
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One of the best arguments I've heard on this one: |
emad aisat sana |
Oct-16-03 10:26 AM |
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Round and round |
trotsky |
Oct-16-03 12:45 PM |
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"Inside out, upside down" |
MojoKrunch |
Oct-16-03 08:16 PM |
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You're framing this issue incorrectly. |
trotsky |
Oct-16-03 09:41 PM |
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Using Framing Gun now. |
MojoKrunch |
Oct-17-03 09:28 AM |
#43 |
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Please lay off on the personal slurs. |
trotsky |
Oct-17-03 10:26 AM |
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Well Said, Comrade |
The Magistrate |
Oct-17-03 10:54 PM |
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Shouldn't that be "ditto"? |
MojoKrunch |
Oct-18-03 11:15 AM |
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Are you STILL on this? |
MojoKrunch |
Oct-18-03 11:15 AM |
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Impressive, in an adolescent sort of way. |
trotsky |
Oct-18-03 01:34 PM |
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Uninteresting ins a pompous, ego-centric sort of way. |
MojoKrunch |
Oct-19-03 11:55 AM |
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Who Ya Gonna Call? Ghostbusters... |
InkAddict |
Oct-18-03 01:37 AM |
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ESP works |
TrogL |
Oct-15-03 08:58 AM |
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Yea, yea... and I can turn off street lights with my mind |
MojoKrunch |
Oct-15-03 07:25 PM |
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Same for me. |
kgfnally |
Oct-16-03 10:38 AM |
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ME TOO!!!! |
Karenina |
Oct-16-03 10:51 AM |
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Damn! |
ritc2750 |
Oct-16-03 11:18 AM |
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Psychic democrats or |
emad aisat sana |
Oct-16-03 11:23 AM |
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We can band together and use our powers for *good*!! |
MojoKrunch |
Oct-16-03 08:20 PM |
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Lights out? - I close down businesses |
InkAddict |
Oct-18-03 01:46 AM |
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I don't see any evidence in the article |
short bus president |
Oct-15-03 09:06 AM |
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Not in this article... |
ritc2750 |
Oct-16-03 11:16 AM |
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I agree this was a waste of money |
koopie57 |
Oct-19-03 11:28 AM |
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Damn... You Read My Mind!! |
arwalden |
Oct-16-03 12:30 PM |
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I disagree |
Ratty |
Oct-16-03 01:55 PM |
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Yeah, I wonder if Rev. Wright felt the same way |
Ivory_Tower |
Oct-16-03 06:58 PM |
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The Reverend Should Read His Own Book |
The Magistrate |
Oct-17-03 10:57 PM |
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Incorrect. |
Teaser |
Oct-20-03 09:30 AM |
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There is nothing like superstition to drive science! |
rexcat71 |
Oct-15-03 08:51 AM |
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When I had leukemia last year.... |
Tripper11 |
Oct-16-03 10:56 AM |
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reminds me of when my fundy friend got hodgkin's disease... |
amazona |
Oct-17-03 01:17 PM |
#48 |
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Ridiculous "study" that proves or disproves nothing |
Selwynn |
Oct-16-03 11:46 AM |
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Getting back to the point |
trotsky |
Oct-16-03 12:54 PM |
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I Can Seldom Type Calm Replies Like You Just Did... |
arwalden |
Oct-16-03 03:42 PM |
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No, actually, they couldn't |
Selwynn |
Oct-16-03 05:18 PM |
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Let me try to explain. |
trotsky |
Oct-16-03 06:51 PM |
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I will indeed feel free.. |
Selwynn |
Oct-16-03 09:03 PM |
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Let's try this |
trotsky |
Oct-16-03 10:20 PM |
#37 |
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Equivocation of terms |
Selwynn |
Oct-17-03 01:06 AM |
#39 |
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Look again at my first response to you: |
trotsky |
Oct-17-03 08:31 AM |
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I've Been Watching This... |
arwalden |
Oct-17-03 12:13 PM |
#47 |
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Keep watching, then.. |
Selwynn |
Oct-18-03 03:11 AM |
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You're accidentally misrepresenting me here, I think |
Selwynn |
Oct-18-03 03:09 AM |
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chiming in |
frustrated_lefty |
Oct-18-03 10:52 AM |
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Well, perhaps we're at an end. |
trotsky |
Oct-18-03 02:08 PM |
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Trotsky.... |
frustrated_lefty |
Oct-18-03 03:06 PM |
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My thoughts |
trotsky |
Oct-19-03 11:07 AM |
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You do realize that this is a logical fallacy? |
Selwynn |
Oct-19-03 02:53 PM |
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Oh, really? |
trotsky |
Oct-20-03 08:38 AM |
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Re:My thoughts |
frustrated_lefty |
Oct-19-03 06:09 PM |
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It's all kind of unraveling for you, isn't it? |
Selwynn |
Oct-18-03 06:43 PM |
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You Type A Lot... I'll Give You That. But You Sure Don't Say Much... |
arwalden |
Oct-18-03 10:23 PM |
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Thanks for the comments. |
Selwynn |
Oct-19-03 02:20 AM |
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But That's Your Style... There's All Sorts Of Jabs In Your Messages |
arwalden |
Oct-19-03 01:53 PM |
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Once again - |
Selwynn |
Oct-19-03 02:50 PM |
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I've Contributed Nothing... Other Than Commentary |
arwalden |
Oct-19-03 03:08 PM |
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You may have the last word as well, if you wish. |
Selwynn |
Oct-19-03 03:21 PM |
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Only One? May I Have Two? Please? |
arwalden |
Oct-19-03 03:40 PM |
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Unraveling? I don't think so. |
trotsky |
Oct-19-03 10:57 AM |
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You may have the last word |
Selwynn |
Oct-19-03 02:45 PM |
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May I praise you and Trotsky both for your contributions here? |
karlschneider |
Oct-18-03 11:07 PM |
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Yes, I'd like to at this point like to salute Trotsky... |
Selwynn |
Oct-19-03 02:32 AM |
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Thanks to you both. |
trotsky |
Oct-19-03 10:33 AM |
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Nicely said! This was a "Bell's" experiment - unkown action at a distance |
papau |
Oct-18-03 09:45 AM |
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I don't think you and I would agree, but thank you. |
Selwynn |
Oct-18-03 11:19 AM |
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Elucidate please. |
MojoKrunch |
Oct-19-03 12:08 PM |
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Clarification |
Selwynn |
Oct-19-03 03:03 PM |
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Thanks |
MojoKrunch |
Oct-20-03 09:06 AM |
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Egads! |
0007 |
Oct-16-03 12:30 PM |
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Oh well |
Catt03 |
Oct-16-03 01:10 PM |
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Belief |
jsw_81 |
Oct-16-03 11:32 PM |
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utterly worthless to you, not him/her.. |
Selwynn |
Oct-17-03 01:07 AM |
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It's interesting that no animist traditions were tested |
MetaTrope |
Oct-17-03 01:31 AM |
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Shamans and medicine men. |
MojoKrunch |
Oct-17-03 09:38 AM |
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some indigenous medicine was quite effective |
shrike |
Oct-17-03 10:26 AM |
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No, no... this stuff is cool. |
MojoKrunch |
Oct-17-03 09:07 PM |
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What a can of worms |
depakote_kid |
Oct-17-03 10:15 PM |
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Well, Western Medicine Is The Fourth Leading Cause of DEATH |
cryingshame |
Oct-17-03 10:45 PM |
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"all drugs are poisons," sure |
amazona |
Oct-18-03 09:40 AM |
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Not to rain on your crusade, |
frustrated_lefty |
Oct-18-03 11:07 AM |
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Ouch! |
Cronus |
Oct-19-03 03:04 PM |
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Please keep in mind... |
trotsky |
Oct-18-03 02:32 PM |
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Your Arrogance Puts An Emphasis On Your Own Ignorance |
cryingshame |
Oct-19-03 01:24 PM |
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So what you're saying is anti-science is your Viagra? |
Cronus |
Oct-19-03 03:06 PM |
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You really need to inform yourself. |
trotsky |
Oct-20-03 10:06 AM |
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Wait a minute - I'll bet there were 750 people |
InkAddict |
Oct-18-03 01:33 AM |
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pray to fill one hand.. |
toddzilla |
Oct-18-03 08:26 AM |
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Prayer, alternative medicine, and other healing |
Nikia |
Oct-19-03 11:28 AM |
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Most 'miracles fail rigorous verification tests |
emad aisat sana |
Oct-20-03 04:49 AM |
#95 |
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