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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:24 PM
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75. sure they are
i remember when lawn care was a skill performed by, in some cases, well-compensated japanese gardeners w. great knowledge of landscaping and horticulture

who does the work and at what price now, sure, you don't get any knowledge, but hey at least it's cheaper

construction was a good job for high pay

now construction crews in my area are illegals from mexico and guatemala getting a fraction of the pay

no use denying that skilled, high-paying jobs have disappeared because of illegal immigration, i just named 2 examples off the top of my head that we all encounter every day!

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  -CNN: The zero-savings problem ("saving rate at zero - that's right, nada") DeepModem Mom  Aug-02-05 10:32 PM   #0 
  - Tulips! Get your tulips here!  Art_from_Ark   Aug-02-05 10:41 PM   #1 
  - Ya got that right.  PurityOfEssence   Aug-02-05 11:15 PM   #4 
  - funny you should mention the vehicles they drive.  dweeb   Aug-03-05 12:05 AM   #6 
  - I drive a Honda Civic and don't even like war movies  osaMABUSh   Aug-03-05 12:17 AM   #8 
  - But look at them now  raccoon   Aug-03-05 08:33 AM   #17 
  - Good point. Article says one of two ways people finance deficit spending  1932   Aug-03-05 09:51 AM   #27 
  - Don't even get me started on cars.  girl gone mad   Aug-03-05 06:41 PM   #49 
  - 2 cars, both cash.  missb   Aug-03-05 07:24 PM   #54 
     - We have 2 vehicles  ninkasi   Aug-03-05 07:42 PM   #56 
  - I don't understand.  Dora   Aug-04-05 11:48 AM   #68 
  - I have a Princess Di beanie, third edition  Changenow   Aug-03-05 10:43 AM   #32 
  - at least you can eat the bulbs if things get really bad  Lisa   Aug-03-05 01:58 PM   #37 
  - I've been able to save some money for when I find a new job  high density   Aug-02-05 10:49 PM   #2 
  - The article says retirement savings are counted as savings even though  1932   Aug-02-05 10:53 PM   #3 
  - no you are misunderstanding  pitohui   Aug-03-05 10:10 AM   #30 
     - Check the article.  1932   Aug-03-05 05:58 PM   #48 
        - interest rates are low  pitohui   Aug-04-05 12:31 PM   #76 
           - I don't think it's investor intelligence that is making home prices rise.  1932   Aug-04-05 05:25 PM   #84 
  - The bling culture  fortyfeetunder   Aug-02-05 11:59 PM   #5 
  - Greenspan!  KT2000   Aug-03-05 12:10 AM   #7 
  - Wow. Imagine what all these folks could do with...  Hekate   Aug-03-05 01:41 AM   #9 
  - Somehow, the government gets away with saying there's no inflation  aint_no_life_nowhere   Aug-03-05 02:40 AM   #10 
  - It is not inflation if they don't devalue the currency  WannaJumpMyScooter   Aug-03-05 06:34 AM   #16 
  - Neocons like it because it means that banks are not holding back that  applegrove   Aug-03-05 02:49 AM   #11 
  - if people begin saving then companies will not make their profits  kodi   Aug-03-05 03:01 AM   #12 
  - It's okay to be illiquid when credit markets are too easy  teryang   Aug-03-05 05:33 AM   #13 
  - An average U.S. household net worth of $400K+?  sadiesworld   Aug-03-05 06:16 AM   #14 
  - Exactly....  sendero   Aug-03-05 06:33 AM   #15 
  - in this case, the wrong statistic  central scrutinizer   Aug-03-05 05:28 PM   #44 
     - Median in 2002 from one source is 59, 706(adj), anyone have a later no.?  FreeStateDemocrat   Aug-04-05 12:37 PM   #78 
        - The median net worth of all U.S. households is $100,894 - Aug. 20, 2004  FreeStateDemocrat   Aug-04-05 12:56 PM   #81 
  - And on top of that...  architect359   Aug-03-05 09:25 AM   #20 
  - Most of that is inflated real estate value  endarkenment   Aug-04-05 10:01 AM   #65 
  - Can someone please explain to me how it works  Coventina   Aug-03-05 09:04 AM   #18 
  - i can explain  pitohui   Aug-03-05 09:57 AM   #28 
     - The one time exclusion  Moondog   Aug-03-05 02:58 PM   #38 
     - even better!  pitohui   Aug-03-05 03:24 PM   #40 
     - 401k contributions are included in the BEA calculation of the savings rate  snippy   Aug-03-05 07:27 PM   #55 
  - NO the bank owns most of those homes until mortage is paid....  ElsewheresDaughter   Aug-03-05 09:12 AM   #19 
  - Add to that  SOS   Aug-03-05 10:59 AM   #33 
     - not true at all  pitohui   Aug-03-05 03:32 PM   #42 
        - Just bought a co-op unit, first home, on the same logic  AuntJen   Aug-03-05 07:43 PM   #57 
  - Spendthrift nation  leftchick   Aug-03-05 09:42 AM   #21 
  - I blame Bush  livetohike   Aug-03-05 09:42 AM   #22 
  - I wanted to open a savings account  catmandu57   Aug-03-05 09:43 AM   #23 
  - 3.15 % interest rate on savings  pitohui   Aug-03-05 09:49 AM   #26 
  - Nationalize the credit card industry...  SteppingRazor   Aug-03-05 09:44 AM   #24 
  - I like the way you think.  redqueen   Aug-03-05 11:21 AM   #36 
  - But seriously folks...  SteppingRazor   Aug-03-05 09:48 AM   #25 
  - this is the core problem  pitohui   Aug-03-05 10:03 AM   #29 
  - illegal immigrants are not stealing good jobs at high pay.  endarkenment   Aug-04-05 12:12 PM   #72 
     - sure they are  pitohui   Aug-04-05 12:24 PM   #75 
  - You don't have to buy a house  LisaM   Aug-03-05 03:11 PM   #39 
  - Back in the 50s, men were buying houses for their families....  tjdee   Aug-03-05 08:49 PM   #60 
  - This has always puzzeled me.  mccoyn   Aug-04-05 01:21 PM   #82 
  - No, but  Dora   Aug-04-05 11:53 AM   #69 
  - Especially when Rick Sphinctorum tells us women shouldn't work  hatrack   Aug-03-05 05:46 PM   #47 
  - I hate to be a wet blanket..  sendero   Aug-03-05 08:38 PM   #59 
  - No offense, but how long has it been since you "first started out?"  shrike   Aug-04-05 10:22 AM   #66 
  - My point is simpler than that..  sendero   Aug-04-05 11:40 AM   #67 
     - While I can't argue with that  shrike   Aug-04-05 12:37 PM   #77 
        - On that..  sendero   Aug-04-05 12:41 PM   #80 
           - Use to be start at bottom & workup now most dead end jobs w/o hope.  FreeStateDemocrat   Aug-04-05 06:48 PM   #85 
  - where do you find $3K cars?  pitohui   Aug-04-05 12:05 PM   #70 
     - I'm in the car business..  sendero   Aug-04-05 03:56 PM   #83 
  - No, but it's hard  zipplewrath   Aug-04-05 12:40 PM   #79 
  - No incentive  wrlwnd   Aug-03-05 10:31 AM   #31 
  - what bank fees?  pitohui   Aug-03-05 03:25 PM   #41 
  - I don't know where you are or  jbnow   Aug-03-05 06:58 PM   #52 
     - a well-off neighborhood in the southeast  pitohui   Aug-04-05 12:12 PM   #71 
  - Might even be safer too,  Megahurtz   Aug-05-05 07:14 PM   #87 
  - No savings here: medical bills wiped me out  Lorien   Aug-03-05 11:16 AM   #34 
  - I save 12.5%  midnight armadillo   Aug-03-05 11:17 AM   #35 
  - I'm a saver......I will not spend unless I have the money to back it up.  Historic NY   Aug-03-05 05:15 PM   #43 
  - Not sure how they figure that. I know plenty of people with actual savings  progressivebydesign   Aug-03-05 05:36 PM   #45 
  - Americans stock up to save more!  zara   Aug-03-05 05:43 PM   #46 
  - What if it turns out that the wise people are the ones....  olddad56   Aug-03-05 07:19 PM   #53 
     - yes it happened in the late 70s also  pitohui   Aug-04-05 12:13 PM   #73 
        - smart posts--but the mania contributes to the inflation, no?  zara   Aug-05-05 11:49 AM   #86 
  - Oh, I thought the tax cuts were supposed to help our economy!  Daphne08   Aug-03-05 06:43 PM   #50 
  - The tax cuts have helped, they have helped the rich get richer.....  olddad56   Aug-03-05 06:52 PM   #51 
  - Less in savings, less money to loan  AuntJen   Aug-03-05 08:02 PM   #58 
  - The Federal Reserve is a private bank it is not part of the US Government  loftycity   Aug-04-05 01:31 AM   #61 
  - Hey, what's the problem? I'll  mbperrin   Aug-04-05 01:42 AM   #62 
  - of course people are not stupid  pitohui   Aug-04-05 12:20 PM   #74 
  - During the next decade there will be a record number of bankruptcies,  Seabiscuit   Aug-04-05 02:11 AM   #63 
  - This is what happens when corporations take over the government  Rex   Aug-04-05 02:26 AM   #64 
 

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