| 22. I'm not going to play semantics |
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with you. Seeing as you know exactly what happened and have come to a judgement based on all the facts known to you I have to defer to your superior knowledge. If you say it was an "execution" then it must have been.
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| -Brazilian did not wear bulky jacket |
IndianaGreen |
Jul-27-05 10:37 PM |
#0 |
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The BBC had initially reported that he was wearing a windbreaker |
Kathy in Cambridge |
Jul-27-05 10:40 PM |
#1 |
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thanks for that bit of info..i had missed that at the time... |
Monkie |
Jul-28-05 04:59 AM |
#11 |
| -
I thought it was really strange that |
zidzi |
Jul-27-05 10:42 PM |
#2 |
| -
guilty of running while brown? |
truthisfreedom |
Jul-27-05 10:49 PM |
#3 |
| -
Stats covering deaths with or after contact with Police 2003-2004 |
Guy_Montag |
Jul-28-05 07:05 AM |
#39 |
| -
Enviable even-handedness, much better than the US record (nt) |
Mairead |
Jul-28-05 07:36 AM |
#54 |
| -
& only one was shot n/t |
Guy_Montag |
Jul-28-05 08:02 AM |
#62 |
| -
how is that even handed? |
tk2kewl |
Jul-28-05 11:32 AM |
#97 |
| -
The sample is, thankfully, very small |
Guy_Montag |
Jul-28-05 11:42 AM |
#99 |
| -
Good data |
jwcomer |
Jul-28-05 11:16 AM |
#95 |
| -
I think we've seen the end of the war on terror |
Erika |
Jul-27-05 10:57 PM |
#4 |
| -
You're very optimistic |
PunkPop |
Jul-28-05 08:33 AM |
#66 |
| -
Not strange for a Brazilian (Equator) to wear a coat in London |
osaMABUSh |
Jul-27-05 11:01 PM |
#5 |
| -
The bobbies lost their credibility when they let him get on a bus |
soothsayer |
Jul-28-05 01:05 AM |
#6 |
| -
not bobbies, me thinks |
rman |
Jul-28-05 05:21 AM |
#14 |
| -
Indeed. The bus thing is just perplexing. |
Zhade |
Jul-28-05 08:18 PM |
#137 |
| -
It's been said they wanted to see who he might lead them to |
lockdown |
Jul-28-05 10:58 PM |
#148 |
| -
So much effort to dramatize the poor police victims in this, . . . |
The Stranger |
Jul-29-05 08:16 AM |
#180 |
| -
Yes of course |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 10:42 AM |
#191 |
| -
Pardon me? Someone has just probably committed murder, |
The Stranger |
Jul-29-05 11:00 AM |
#195 |
| -
Key word - capacity? |
lockdown |
Jul-29-05 01:31 PM |
#199 |
| -
Inexcuseable brutal destruction of this man's life. |
Judi Lynn |
Jul-28-05 02:03 AM |
#7 |
| -
Your last line is so poignant. eom |
alarcojon |
Jul-28-05 08:52 AM |
#70 |
| -
"drooling idiots in the States " |
Sterling |
Jul-28-05 10:57 AM |
#93 |
| -
"drooling bu$hites" stiring shit. (fuk em) |
sattahipdeep |
Jul-28-05 11:16 AM |
#94 |
| -
Not all, no. |
redqueen |
Jul-28-05 12:48 PM |
#108 |
| -
Just wanted to thank you personally for the insult. |
redqueen |
Jul-28-05 12:49 PM |
#109 |
| -
Kick! |
Judi Lynn |
Jul-28-05 03:13 AM |
#8 |
| -
Kicked & nominated. |
I Have A Dream |
Jul-28-05 04:39 AM |
#9 |
| -
I'm more speechless every day over this ... |
ngGale |
Jul-28-05 04:42 AM |
#10 |
| -
My exact thought, too. n/t |
Hepburn |
Jul-28-05 07:08 AM |
#42 |
| -
Travel card |
magellan |
Jul-28-05 05:06 AM |
#12 |
| -
Yes |
Frederik |
Jul-28-05 06:18 AM |
#23 |
| -
Thanks for the answers, guys. (nt) |
magellan |
Jul-28-05 06:53 PM |
#128 |
| -
Depends |
Nihil |
Jul-28-05 06:33 AM |
#25 |
| -
Is that crickets I hear? |
Puglover |
Jul-28-05 05:07 AM |
#13 |
| -
I'll say it then |
oscarmitre |
Jul-28-05 05:29 AM |
#16 |
| -
Hwo can you say this? |
mogster |
Jul-28-05 05:42 AM |
#18 |
| -
IMHO, the worst part of this nightmarish story is the fact that they.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jul-28-05 07:33 AM |
#52 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-28-05 07:50 AM |
#57 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-28-05 07:52 AM |
#58 |
| -
Excellent post MLD |
LibertyorDeath |
Jul-28-05 01:57 PM |
#114 |
| -
Let's pretend he was indeed a terrorist ready to blow himself |
YapiYapo |
Jul-29-05 09:36 AM |
#182 |
| -
Our "rush to judgement" |
Kelvin Mace |
Jul-28-05 10:15 AM |
#86 |
| -
No this place took the pieces of news |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 06:55 AM |
#163 |
| -
It is undeniable that the police had shoot-to-kill orders and... |
IndianaGreen |
Jul-29-05 06:58 AM |
#164 |
| -
Shooting to kill needs no warning |
YapiYapo |
Jul-29-05 10:00 AM |
#185 |
| -
It is undeniable? You're kidding right? |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 10:39 AM |
#190 |
| -
Amusing how you are complaining about attitudes at DU |
MadHound |
Jul-28-05 06:00 AM |
#19 |
| -
Thanks buddy - you said that better than I ever could |
Cronus Protagonist |
Jul-28-05 06:05 AM |
#21 |
| -
Well said....thanks! |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jul-28-05 07:21 AM |
#47 |
| -
Madhound.... |
William Bloode |
Jul-28-05 03:09 PM |
#122 |
| -
Thank you for your service in the thin blue line |
MadHound |
Jul-28-05 03:40 PM |
#123 |
| -
Man do i understand. |
William Bloode |
Jul-28-05 06:42 PM |
#127 |
| -
Thanks so much for your posts, William! |
Karenina |
Jul-28-05 07:14 PM |
#130 |
| -
You are welcome Kareina. |
William Bloode |
Jul-28-05 08:01 PM |
#135 |
| -
Something about |
Karenina |
Jul-28-05 08:39 PM |
#141 |
| -
Excellent, excellent post. |
Zhade |
Jul-28-05 08:23 PM |
#138 |
| -
Great post. |
Sterling |
Jul-28-05 11:00 PM |
#149 |
| -
Comparing attitudes of posters on a discussion forum |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 07:00 AM |
#165 |
| -
Their minds were clouded by the fog of war, no doubt. |
Judi Lynn |
Jul-29-05 07:09 AM |
#168 |
| -
What does that mean? |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 10:18 AM |
#186 |
| -
Sorry friend, but that doesn't fly |
MadHound |
Jul-29-05 09:48 AM |
#184 |
| -
The "Rush to Judgment" was in believing the police justification |
Divernan |
Jul-28-05 06:30 AM |
#24 |
| -
I have never stated what I believe |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 07:08 AM |
#167 |
| -
"The rule of law is still in place in the UK"?? Does your definition.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jul-28-05 07:19 AM |
#46 |
| -
I find your post without logic. |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 07:11 AM |
#169 |
| -
"Rush to judgment" |
qanda |
Jul-28-05 08:39 AM |
#67 |
| -
Ironic? |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 07:14 AM |
#171 |
| -
I am less concerned |
Karenina |
Jul-28-05 08:46 AM |
#68 |
| -
That "presumption of innocence" was SADLY missing at the tubeway.... |
dicksteele |
Jul-28-05 09:12 AM |
#74 |
| -
Why do you assume I'm not? n/t |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 07:15 AM |
#172 |
| -
Unfortunately, liberals are also taking a "with us or against us" attitude |
redqueen |
Jul-28-05 12:50 PM |
#110 |
| -
Does that mean I have to suspend my own |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 07:16 AM |
#173 |
| -
Of course not! It only means you shouldn't insult anyone who disagrees. |
redqueen |
Jul-29-05 09:37 AM |
#183 |
| -
LMFAO!! |
LibertyorDeath |
Jul-28-05 01:49 PM |
#113 |
| -
Apart from obvious mockery do you have a point? |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 07:16 AM |
#174 |
| -
OK, I'll bite.......... |
Pert_UK |
Jul-28-05 06:39 AM |
#27 |
| -
Well... |
mogster |
Jul-28-05 06:54 AM |
#31 |
| -
Pert |
Puglover |
Jul-28-05 06:54 AM |
#32 |
| -
Cheers fella...I genuinely appreciate your comments.... |
Pert_UK |
Jul-28-05 06:58 AM |
#34 |
| -
I do understand your reactions, Pert_UK |
Karenina |
Jul-28-05 06:55 AM |
#33 |
| -
I agree with you, but........ |
Pert_UK |
Jul-28-05 06:59 AM |
#35 |
| -
Pert help me out. |
Puglover |
Jul-28-05 07:05 AM |
#40 |
| -
Here you go.... |
Pert_UK |
Jul-28-05 07:24 AM |
#48 |
| -
Pert |
Puglover |
Jul-28-05 07:39 AM |
#55 |
| -
And as the Mod mentions..... |
Pert_UK |
Jul-28-05 09:36 AM |
#77 |
| -
I agree that tarring |
Kelvin Mace |
Jul-28-05 10:35 AM |
#91 |
| -
Hi Pert! |
barb162 |
Jul-28-05 02:45 PM |
#120 |
| -
Thank you very kindly, ma'am....(tips hat, rides off into sunset) |
Pert_UK |
Jul-29-05 03:33 AM |
#155 |
| -
FYI |
Moderator |
Jul-28-05 08:01 AM |
#61 |
| -
Thanks, and thanks for the Mods' work in keeping the worst under... |
Pert_UK |
Jul-28-05 09:37 AM |
#78 |
| -
The Amis have their own issues |
Karenina |
Jul-28-05 07:27 AM |
#50 |
| -
It's interesting that the people making the comment that some DU.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jul-28-05 07:58 AM |
#60 |
| -
I think... |
sendero |
Jul-28-05 07:03 AM |
#37 |
| -
The police are trying to have it both ways, and that's simply not on |
Mairead |
Jul-28-05 07:06 AM |
#41 |
| -
WHY did they follow him? |
Karenina |
Jul-28-05 10:41 AM |
#92 |
| -
I agree it is grossly unfair to criticize wholesale the UK police force |
Divernan |
Jul-28-05 07:10 AM |
#43 |
| -
Ironic that Tony Blair refused to form a 9-11 style commission |
IndianaGreen |
Jul-28-05 07:12 AM |
#44 |
| -
right after he gave the nonsensical "went to sleep after noyn-eleven's |
MisterP |
Jul-28-05 02:00 PM |
#115 |
| -
There is a man investigating and I saw an interview |
barb162 |
Jul-28-05 02:29 PM |
#117 |
| -
Very few DU posters, if any, reacted in the manner you describe..... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jul-28-05 07:50 AM |
#56 |
| -
Thanks for taking the time. |
redqueen |
Jul-28-05 12:54 PM |
#111 |
| -
Independent reports... |
Violet_Crumble |
Jul-29-05 03:07 AM |
#154 |
| -
Probably pissed off at banging their heads against the wall |
Nihil |
Jul-28-05 06:39 AM |
#28 |
| -
Nihil |
Puglover |
Jul-28-05 07:02 AM |
#36 |
| -
Thanks Jeff |
Nihil |
Jul-28-05 07:24 AM |
#49 |
| -
Legal resident, |
Karenina |
Jul-28-05 05:22 AM |
#15 |
| -
That isn't a question it's an assumption |
oscarmitre |
Jul-28-05 05:37 AM |
#17 |
| -
Don't know why you're arguing with the word choice |
magellan |
Jul-28-05 06:04 AM |
#20 |
| -
I'm not going to play semantics |
oscarmitre |
Jul-28-05 06:13 AM |
#22 |
| -
Quoting the definition from a dictionary is NOT playing semantics. |
Divernan |
Jul-28-05 06:36 AM |
#26 |
| -
Perhaps you could use the word "killed" |
Guy_Montag |
Jul-28-05 07:03 AM |
#38 |
| -
"Executed" is more appropriate: the cop performed the act ex-officio |
Mairead |
Jul-28-05 07:34 AM |
#53 |
| -
Right let's try this |
Guy_Montag |
Jul-28-05 07:56 AM |
#59 |
| -
Or this |
Mairead |
Jul-28-05 08:26 AM |
#64 |
| -
But he wasn't killed as a punishment. |
Guy_Montag |
Jul-28-05 08:32 AM |
#65 |
| -
I'm sure the cop who did it thought (or will claim) it was a punishment! |
Mairead |
Jul-28-05 09:03 AM |
#71 |
| -
Why would he claim it to be a punishment? |
Guy_Montag |
Jul-28-05 09:11 AM |
#73 |
| -
Because unless the victim is construed to have committed an offence |
Mairead |
Jul-28-05 09:30 AM |
#76 |
| -
Once again - our police do not hand out punishments |
Guy_Montag |
Jul-28-05 09:40 AM |
#79 |
| -
What on earth do you call shooting someone dead, then??? |
Mairead |
Jul-28-05 10:03 AM |
#83 |
| -
This was not a punishment! |
Guy_Montag |
Jul-28-05 10:15 AM |
#87 |
| -
We live in different worlds, evidently. (nt) |
Mairead |
Jul-28-05 10:18 AM |
#88 |
| -
Using your own example... |
jsamuel |
Jul-28-05 11:21 AM |
#96 |
| -
Not necessarily |
Guy_Montag |
Jul-28-05 11:35 AM |
#98 |
| -
There was no suicide belt and the police knew it |
Mairead |
Jul-28-05 12:05 PM |
#101 |
| -
And from where is your expertise and knowledge drawn? |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 01:43 AM |
#153 |
| -
Rather than make yourself seem puerile by empty bluster and namecalling |
Mairead |
Jul-29-05 05:38 AM |
#156 |
| -
Sorry I just can't take that seriously. |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 05:54 AM |
#157 |
| -
When you've got an authoritative statement from the police saying |
Mairead |
Jul-29-05 08:15 AM |
#179 |
| -
Point taken |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 10:36 AM |
#189 |
| -
Actually there is at least one witness who said that he was on the ground |
jsamuel |
Jul-28-05 12:08 PM |
#102 |
| -
Someone made a statement to the media that hes being held down |
Guy_Montag |
Jul-28-05 12:36 PM |
#104 |
| -
"he tried to take a hostage." |
Sterling |
Jul-28-05 11:20 PM |
#151 |
| -
the endless stream of bullshit |
Warren Stupidity |
Jul-29-05 06:11 AM |
#158 |
| -
On WHAT BASIS |
Karenina |
Jul-28-05 12:17 PM |
#103 |
| -
Why haven't they followed EVERYONE or ANYONE that had these same requir. |
jsamuel |
Jul-28-05 12:40 PM |
#105 |
| -
Yeah, Karenina, that's one of the things that gets me, too. If they |
Peace Patriot |
Jul-28-05 02:02 PM |
#116 |
| -
Psssssttt.... PP |
Karenina |
Jul-28-05 07:25 PM |
#132 |
| -
Wow, I missed that they were ON the bus WITH him. |
Zhade |
Jul-28-05 08:59 PM |
#144 |
| -
or they just screwed up |
alarcojon |
Jul-29-05 11:29 AM |
#196 |
| -
Being handcuffed doesn't end your life. |
Zhade |
Jul-28-05 08:56 PM |
#143 |
| -
Wrong |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 01:31 AM |
#152 |
| -
and yet |
Warren Stupidity |
Jul-29-05 06:14 AM |
#159 |
| -
This may interest you... |
Karenina |
Jul-28-05 06:44 AM |
#29 |
| -
Yes it does interest me. |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 06:49 AM |
#162 |
| -
No reason to be petulant |
magellan |
Jul-28-05 06:52 AM |
#30 |
| -
kick |
marekjed |
Jul-28-05 07:15 AM |
#45 |
| -
Sometimes it doesn't feel good to have your suspicions verified. eom |
Concerned GA Voter |
Jul-28-05 07:28 AM |
#51 |
| -
Blair ordered an Arab corpse. He had all the evidence to convict this |
dArKeR |
Jul-28-05 08:18 AM |
#63 |
| -
It's certainly possible n/t |
sattahipdeep |
Jul-28-05 10:05 AM |
#84 |
| -
still waiting to hear why no police already at subway station |
Romulus |
Jul-28-05 08:51 AM |
#69 |
| -
Must have known something? |
sattahipdeep |
Jul-28-05 09:57 AM |
#82 |
| -
If they had Osama bin Laden pinned down and helpless, I would STILL |
AzDar |
Jul-28-05 09:05 AM |
#72 |
| -
The police should produce the jacket |
daleo |
Jul-28-05 09:15 AM |
#75 |
| -
Must be similar to executions in Brazil... |
Canadian_moderate |
Jul-28-05 09:45 AM |
#80 |
| -
What shocked many Londoners.... |
sattahipdeep |
Jul-28-05 09:51 AM |
#81 |
| -
Besides being brown |
tuckessee |
Jul-28-05 10:14 AM |
#85 |
| -
Or who did he know or who knew him |
sattahipdeep |
Jul-28-05 10:31 AM |
#90 |
| -
Just one more lie by the British Police... |
RetroLounge |
Jul-28-05 10:22 AM |
#89 |
| -
Don't confuse media reports with police statements |
Guy_Montag |
Jul-28-05 11:44 AM |
#100 |
| -
The media is usually relying on the police to give them information to.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jul-28-05 12:41 PM |
#106 |
| -
They may rely on individual policemen, |
Guy_Montag |
Jul-28-05 12:47 PM |
#107 |
| -
I'm so f*ing mad! |
melissinha |
Jul-28-05 01:16 PM |
#112 |
| -
I understand your anger and frustration |
Canadian_moderate |
Jul-28-05 02:36 PM |
#118 |
| -
yeah |
melissinha |
Jul-28-05 03:01 PM |
#121 |
| -
The police tactics were wrong... |
Canadian_moderate |
Jul-28-05 03:41 PM |
#124 |
| -
War on Terra ovah (it's official). Haven't you heard?? |
downstairsparts |
Jul-29-05 07:13 AM |
#170 |
| -
"global struggle against violent extremism" = GSAVE |
daleo |
Jul-29-05 01:07 PM |
#198 |
| -
RIP Jean Charles |
alarcojon |
Jul-28-05 08:38 PM |
#140 |
| -
Light or heavy jacket? |
barb162 |
Jul-28-05 02:37 PM |
#119 |
| -
As the pile of official bullshit mounts higher and higher |
endarkenment |
Jul-28-05 05:21 PM |
#125 |
| -
Come on then mate, |
Tom Bombadil |
Jul-28-05 05:52 PM |
#126 |
| -
I'd implement "shoot first, ask questions later", without telling citizens, |
rman |
Jul-28-05 09:09 PM |
#145 |
| -
What policy would you introduce |
Karenina |
Jul-28-05 09:12 PM |
#146 |
| -
Beeeeeeeeep! |
Karenina |
Jul-28-05 07:05 PM |
#129 |
| -
What?? |
Tom Bombadil |
Jul-28-05 07:30 PM |
#133 |
| -
Q: What was "suspicious"? A: His skin color and his rushing to a train. |
David Zephyr |
Jul-28-05 07:16 PM |
#131 |
| -
A reminder about that case |
alarcojon |
Jul-28-05 08:33 PM |
#139 |
| -
Yo, Davey-dah |
Karenina |
Jul-28-05 09:24 PM |
#147 |
| -
And you missed |
barb162 |
Jul-28-05 11:18 PM |
#150 |
| -
a combination of two things |
Warren Stupidity |
Jul-29-05 06:15 AM |
#160 |
| -
Let me restate my position. |
Warren Stupidity |
Jul-28-05 07:30 PM |
#134 |
| -
Show some evidence that those policies are in place |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 07:33 AM |
#175 |
| -
Just crawl out of a hole? |
Warren Stupidity |
Jul-29-05 08:10 AM |
#177 |
| -
ah heck I couldn't wait |
Warren Stupidity |
Jul-29-05 08:14 AM |
#178 |
| -
Instead of telling me to google |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 10:32 AM |
#188 |
| -
I did |
Warren Stupidity |
Jul-29-05 10:50 AM |
#192 |
| -
You mean, lied to us AGAIN. |
Zhade |
Jul-28-05 08:14 PM |
#136 |
| -
i just wish the real story would come out |
Blue_Tires |
Jul-28-05 08:52 PM |
#142 |
| -
Blair has refused to have a commission of inquiry |
IndianaGreen |
Jul-29-05 06:32 AM |
#161 |
| -
of course there is video --- but that would reveal the LIES |
cthrumatrix |
Jul-29-05 07:04 AM |
#166 |
| -
What I do know is that an innocent man lost his life |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 07:56 AM |
#176 |
| -
The team member who pulled the trigger |
Karenina |
Jul-29-05 08:42 AM |
#181 |
| -
I don't have to ask myself these questions Karenina |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 10:27 AM |
#187 |
| -
go for option (a) |
Warren Stupidity |
Jul-29-05 10:52 AM |
#193 |
| -
Makes sense |
oscarmitre |
Jul-29-05 10:57 AM |
#194 |
| -
If I understand "fitted up" properly |
Karenina |
Jul-29-05 11:58 AM |
#197 |
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