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CNN: NASA grounds shuttle fleet(debris, but guess is, will not be problem)
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NASA grounds shuttle fleet
Falling debris during launch draws concern
Wednesday, July 27, 2005; Posted: 6:45 p.m. EDT (22:45 GMT)

KENNEDY SPACE CENTER, Florida (CNN) -- There will be no more shuttle launches until NASA engineers determine the effect of debris that fell from the shuttle Discovery during blastoff Tuesday, said Bill Parsons, space shuttle program manager.

"We are treating it very seriously," he told reporters. "Are we losing sleep over it? Not yet."

He added, "We will continue to do the evaluation."...

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Earlier Wednesday NASA lead flight director Paul Hill said that, based on engineers' "first-blush" analysis of falling debris, there was "no significant problem" with the orbiting shuttle.

Hill spoke to reporters after astronauts, using a robotic arm equipped with a camera and laser, spent "one hell of a day" poring over every inch of Discovery, looking for surface damage....

***

Appearing at a news conference at Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas, Hill said that NASA engineers' "first blush, when they looked at this, was it wasn't going to be a significant problem." But, he added, engineers have seen "some things" in video from the launch that cause "some concern."...

***

NASA was analyzing data from video and from the robotic arm, the launch and elsewhere to decide what steps -- if any -- to take next.

"We should start seeing the jury coming in on those decisions by the end of the crew's day tomorrow," Hill said. "My guess is we're not going to have a problem."...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/07/27/space.shuttle/...


Reuters: HOUSTON (Reuters) - NASA halted future shuttle flights on Wednesday after learning that a large chunk of insulating foam broke off Discovery's external fuel tank during launch.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050727/us_nm/space_shuttle... ;_ylt=Ap3Sa5N8WYDPjr1xLzKfNQ0YAjMB;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl


AFP: HOUSTON, United States (AFP) - NASA said it was grounding the US space shuttle fleet after a large piece of foam insulation broke off from the fuel tank of the Discovery shuttle on liftoff.

While the US space agency said the foam did not damage the shuttle on Tuesday's launch, a spokesman said that future flights are on hold until the problem is corrected.

"Until we're ready we won't fly again," said Bill Parsons, space shuttle program manager.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050727/pl_afp/usspaceshut... ;_ylt=Au6q5bzP_OOWFJfng8Vc_eYYAjMB;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl


AP: SPACE CENTER, Houston - NASA officials said Wednesday it would ground future space shuttle flights because foam debris that brought down Columbia is still a risk.

A sizable chunk of foam insulation that came flying off the shuttle Discovery's fuel tank during Tuesday's liftoff did not hit the orbiter and does not pose a risk to the seven astronauts.

But it is a problem NASA thought had been fixed, and represents a tremendous setback to a space program that has spent 2 1/2 years trying to rise from the ashes of Columbia....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050727/ap_on_sc/space_shut... ;_ylt=AkKKMjzg6Zui1uqHFCYCAsgYAjMB;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
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  -CNN: NASA grounds shuttle fleet(debris, but guess is, will not be problem) DeepModem Mom  Jul-27-05 05:24 PM   #0 
  - Great  shadowknows69   Jul-27-05 05:26 PM   #1 
  - it seems like........  tulsakatz   Jul-27-05 05:33 PM   #18 
     - That would mean  nod4rod   Jul-27-05 05:35 PM   #24 
  - Oy! I Hope The Get Home Safely!  Beetwasher   Jul-27-05 05:26 PM   #2 
  - Idiots  rainbow4321   Jul-27-05 05:32 PM   #15 
  - That HAS to make the current crew feel comfortable...  MercutioATC   Jul-27-05 05:26 PM   #3 
  - Geez, no kidding  flamingyouth   Jul-27-05 05:34 PM   #21 
  - NASA?  LisaM   Jul-27-05 05:27 PM   #4 
  - this was definitely pushed too  shadowknows69   Jul-27-05 05:36 PM   #26 
     - RR pushed one, too.  Pepperbelly   Jul-27-05 10:59 PM   #93 
        - All too well  fortyfeetunder   Jul-28-05 12:18 AM   #111 
  - The last time a piece of foam plipped off...  HypnoToad   Jul-27-05 05:27 PM   #5 
  - What Are Those Bananas Riding On? Anyone?  cryingshame   Jul-27-05 05:29 PM   #11 
     - cartoon llamas?  missb   Jul-27-05 05:37 PM   #32 
     - Peeps? With legs?  LeftyMom   Jul-27-05 05:38 PM   #33 
        - Animated pieces of snot?  Hissyspit   Jul-28-05 02:36 AM   #119 
  - God.  deadparrot   Jul-27-05 05:27 PM   #6 
  - Translation:  missb   Jul-27-05 05:27 PM   #7 
  - You're probably right  LisaM   Jul-27-05 05:29 PM   #9 
     - Unless they are scheduled to go to the ISS, no  Love Bug   Jul-27-05 10:40 PM   #90 
        - they are in the same orbit as the ISS due to this  don954   Jul-27-05 10:55 PM   #92 
           - ... That was the MISSION PROFILE, for chrissakes!  Emperor_Norton_II   Jul-27-05 11:04 PM   #95 
  - If they don't make it back okay, kiss NASA goodbye...  edbermac   Jul-27-05 05:28 PM   #8 
  - But We Had To Launch Discovery, Since Launching Roberts  Demeter   Jul-27-05 05:29 PM   #10 
  - Exactly  montanacowboy   Jul-27-05 05:32 PM   #17 
  - Apollo 13 all over again?  cire4   Jul-27-05 05:31 PM   #12 
  - I'm not the least bit surprised.  Kraklen   Jul-27-05 05:31 PM   #13 
  - 35 yr old technology, used in a 25 yr old crate  antifaschits   Jul-27-05 05:36 PM   #27 
  - NASA's only got themselves to blame.  Kraklen   Jul-27-05 05:37 PM   #31 
  - bloated administration is America's #1 problem.  anotherdrew   Jul-27-05 06:06 PM   #66 
     - They haven't let go of...  fortyfeetunder   Jul-28-05 12:20 AM   #112 
  - "270,000 moving parts built by the lowest bidder."  Im_Your_Huckleberry   Jul-27-05 06:24 PM   #80 
  - I agree. It may be time to move on.  newscott   Jul-27-05 06:04 PM   #65 
  - Uh, "entire fleet"?  tanyev   Jul-27-05 05:32 PM   #14 
  - Three, actually.  MercutioATC   Jul-27-05 05:36 PM   #25 
  - I stand corrected.  tanyev   Jul-27-05 05:39 PM   #36 
     - Your point was well-taken, though.  MercutioATC   Jul-27-05 05:41 PM   #38 
        - Actually...  Kraklen   Jul-27-05 05:44 PM   #44 
        - Yes, but it's not a lot of actual craft. There've only been 6 built.  MercutioATC   Jul-27-05 05:49 PM   #54 
        - Yeah, and the phrase "the fleet is grounded"  KansDem   Jul-27-05 05:46 PM   #48 
  - seriously, "Remaining Orbiters" might be a better term  anotherdrew   Jul-27-05 06:07 PM   #67 
     - surviving, aging orbiters?  antifaschits   Jul-27-05 06:43 PM   #81 
  - CNN says they'll reach the ISS Friday and check it out  LizW   Jul-27-05 05:32 PM   #16 
  - Maybe we can  ewagner   Jul-27-05 05:37 PM   #30 
  - At the very least, we'll have to get them to go get our people.  LizW   Jul-27-05 05:41 PM   #40 
  - they should be done  shadowknows69   Jul-27-05 05:41 PM   #39 
  - Can two shuttles be attached to the ISS at the same time?  arcos   Jul-27-05 05:43 PM   #43 
  - I would think so, but I don't know. n/t  LizW   Jul-27-05 05:46 PM   #47 
  - Well, they could  missb   Jul-27-05 05:48 PM   #52 
  - That wasn't the ISS in that movie.  Chichiri   Jul-27-05 06:14 PM   #71 
     - My bad  missb   Jul-27-05 06:18 PM   #73 
  - at the same time? certinly not. but this shuttle is probably fine  anotherdrew   Jul-27-05 06:08 PM   #68 
  - Not possible...  fortyfeetunder   Jul-28-05 12:22 AM   #113 
  - Sigh ............  kestrel91316   Jul-27-05 11:14 PM   #96 
  - I feel ill...n/t  etherealtruth   Jul-27-05 05:33 PM   #19 
  - NBC has it on now.  im10ashus   Jul-27-05 05:34 PM   #20 
  - Thanks, im10ashus.  DeepModem Mom   Jul-27-05 05:35 PM   #22 
  - Banner has been removed from CNN site. NO word about this at all  Dem2theMax   Jul-27-05 05:35 PM   #23 
  - I still see a red banner at the top of the CNN homepage...  DeepModem Mom   Jul-27-05 05:37 PM   #28 
  - Refresh the page and see if it's still there. It's not there, at least  Dem2theMax   Jul-27-05 05:38 PM   #35 
  - I just saw it at CNN  missb   Jul-27-05 05:37 PM   #29 
  - they must have heard us  shadowknows69   Jul-27-05 05:43 PM   #42 
  - It's still there n/t  tx_dem41   Jul-27-05 05:47 PM   #51 
     - No it's not. LOL! But they finally have a story up. Here's the link:  Dem2theMax   Jul-27-05 05:51 PM   #56 
        - LOL....actually it still is there (as of 5:53 CDT)....  tx_dem41   Jul-27-05 05:53 PM   #57 
        - It is still there on CNN  missb   Jul-27-05 05:54 PM   #58 
  - Time to cut more funds for science teachers.  Dr Fate   Jul-27-05 05:38 PM   #34 
  - News yesterday said will get visual check @ ISS  uppityperson   Jul-27-05 05:39 PM   #37 
  - They are doing the right thing  still_one   Jul-27-05 05:42 PM   #41 
  - And oh how that would be a blow  missb   Jul-27-05 05:47 PM   #49 
     - This has nothing to do with NASA's ego  still_one   Jul-27-05 05:50 PM   #55 
  - Sounds like they need to eliminate the Shuttles  alarimer   Jul-27-05 05:45 PM   #45 
  - I'll give them a starting point  tridim   Jul-27-05 06:15 PM   #72 
  - I sure hope all goes well  donheld   Jul-27-05 05:45 PM   #46 
  - Frankly, this is what exploration is all about  still_one   Jul-27-05 05:47 PM   #50 
  - Thanks for this word of encouragement, still. nt  DeepModem Mom   Jul-27-05 05:49 PM   #53 
  - An earlier article I read stated that they could stay on ISS  daleo   Jul-27-05 05:56 PM   #59 
  - FYI, there is a plan in place for this scenario, but it ain't pretty.  Zenlitened   Jul-27-05 05:57 PM   #60 
  - The super-cynic in me says.....  Sam_Lowry   Jul-27-05 05:59 PM   #61 
  - Paint the external tank!  Rufus T. Firefly   Jul-27-05 06:01 PM   #62 
  - Exactly how is paint going to accomplish what the adhesives  Spinzonner   Jul-27-05 06:13 PM   #70 
  - I'd say heavy paint would keep it together.  Rufus T. Firefly   Jul-27-05 11:58 PM   #107 
  - Was it those #$*&@! woodpeckers pecking the foam again?  fortyfeetunder   Jul-28-05 12:28 AM   #114 
  - "... bet this happened on EVERY launch" thats what I want to know, when?  anotherdrew   Jul-27-05 06:18 PM   #74 
  - Don't worry. They'll be okay. BUT...  Enraged_Ape   Jul-27-05 06:02 PM   #63 
  - I read once...  Kraklen   Jul-27-05 06:11 PM   #69 
  - upgraded to radiation-hardened 80386s I think in last decade  anotherdrew   Jul-27-05 06:20 PM   #75 
  - Great. 386s.  Kraklen   Jul-27-05 06:23 PM   #78 
     - I guess that "386" implies that they have the math coprocessor  Enraged_Ape   Jul-27-05 07:03 PM   #83 
  - Explain please?  MountainMama   Jul-27-05 06:53 PM   #82 
  - One of the original IBM PCs (ca. 1980) used an 8086 processor  Enraged_Ape   Jul-27-05 07:04 PM   #84 
  - No it is not true.  Xipe Totec   Jul-27-05 08:22 PM   #87 
  - Ruttan's ship never went into low orbit  daleo   Jul-27-05 10:04 PM   #89 
  - Appears that Discovery is OK  MrMonk   Jul-27-05 06:03 PM   #64 
  - The guy interviewed yesterday claimed only a small part of tile  lizzy   Jul-27-05 06:21 PM   #76 
  - No, the news media is being alarmist. n/t  jim3775   Jul-27-05 06:22 PM   #77 
  - SHUTTLE FLEET NOT GROUNDED!  jim3775   Jul-27-05 06:23 PM   #79 
  - CNN ON-AIR UPDATE from Miles O'Brien: foam fall-off "close call"  DeepModem Mom   Jul-27-05 07:08 PM   #85 
  - Hubble is now Toast. Shit!  Xipe Totec   Jul-27-05 08:18 PM   #86 
  - Everyone was being alarmist two years ago...  Hissyspit   Jul-27-05 08:25 PM   #88 
  - Someone suggested I was being alarmist yesterday  rocknation   Jul-27-05 10:42 PM   #91 
     - You were being alarmist yesterday. You're being alarmist right now.  Emperor_Norton_II   Jul-27-05 11:01 PM   #94 
        - That's the foam we KNOW about.  Hissyspit   Jul-27-05 11:23 PM   #97 
        - Yes, yes there is.  Emperor_Norton_II   Jul-27-05 11:46 PM   #98 
           - Apply the foam to an anchored fiber or wire mesh.  BrightKnight   Jul-28-05 12:29 AM   #115 
           - Note that most of the foam stayed put.  Emperor_Norton_II   Jul-28-05 12:39 AM   #116 
              - all of the foam all of the time  BrightKnight   Jul-28-05 01:16 AM   #117 
           - You recall COMPLETELY WRONG  Hissyspit   Jul-28-05 02:20 AM   #118 
           - DING DING DING! Hissyspit, you're our grand prize winner!  rocknation   Jul-28-05 08:02 AM   #120 
           - Friday Headline from BBC: Foam 'Might Have Struck Shuttle Wing'  Hissyspit   Jul-29-05 02:46 AM   #122 
        - If the goddam shuttle cannot stay in one goddam piece  rocknation   Jul-28-05 08:09 AM   #121 
  - The NYT version  Goldmund   Jul-27-05 11:53 PM   #99 
  - I don't really have a warm and fuzzy feeling about this.  stellanoir   Jul-27-05 11:53 PM   #100 
  - Just to repeat, for the cheap seats in the house:  Emperor_Norton_II   Jul-27-05 11:54 PM   #103 
  - dupe  greyl   Jul-27-05 11:53 PM   #101 
  - Oops  Goldmund   Jul-27-05 11:54 PM   #102 
  - After all these years, 24 years now, why is foam coming off now?  SnoopDog   Jul-27-05 11:54 PM   #104 
     - That's probably why  Goldmund   Jul-27-05 11:55 PM   #106 
        - Not really, no.  Emperor_Norton_II   Jul-28-05 12:02 AM   # 
        - Ahh I see  Goldmund   Jul-28-05 12:07 AM   #109 
           - De nada  Emperor_Norton_II   Jul-28-05 12:16 AM   #110 
        - The shuttle program was never intended to last this long. - n/t  BrightKnight   Jul-28-05 12:02 AM   #108 
  - Dupe, please delete  Goldmund   Jul-27-05 11:54 PM   #105 
  - better safe than sorry  Zech Marquis   Jul-29-05 05:40 AM   #123 
 

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