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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 09:55 PM
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76. Similar war, what similar war?
Edited on Mon Jul-25-05 09:58 PM by K-W
There is nothing at all similar.

Erm, the USA being a nation of hypocrites is not generalizing, it is true. A majority of Americans condemn foriegn terror and aggression but do not condemn American terror and aggression.

A generalization is saying that the 13 colonies were similar to the middle east, not pointing out the fact that America is full of hypocrites.

I could go through the vast history of the region and the vast number of empires, attacks and occupations you are ignoring, but the simple fact that you are ignoring the Romans is enough to discredit your argument.

You are making the equivelent of the conservative 'fair and balanced' argument, as if the fact that Arab states waged military campaigs of aggression has anything to do with our discussion. Of course Muslims invaded places, everyone invaded places, the point is that the muslims lost in the long run. Dont tell me about one sided because Christendom did not lose, western europe did not lose they won.

"You make it seem as if the only people that ever conquered anything were Christians."

I did no such thing. By the same logic I made it seem as if australia didnt exist!! Just because something isnt relevant to a discussion and I dont bring it up doesnt mean I am saying it didnt happen. Sheesh.

My history is just fine thank you, and what part of my last line is from outerspace exactly? And can we please stick to the topic we are discussing and not change the subject to Spain for no other reason that to point out muslim violence.
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  - I think she should also ask the Christian terrorist to denounce terrorism  FloridaPat   Jul-24-05 11:05 PM   #1 
  - She should ask the CHIMPANZEE to quit killing Children  saigon68   Jul-25-05 01:36 AM   #24 
  - I live in Los Angeles--Feinstein is a co-sponsor  coalition_unwilling   Jul-25-05 04:45 PM   #54 
     - I live in San Diego. And her endorsement of CAFTA  dweeb   Jul-25-05 09:20 PM   #73 
        - Good one! Sure hope she sees it. It IS time for her to go. n/t  Judi Lynn   Jul-26-05 12:53 AM   #86 
  - umm...the catholic church has  dweller   Jul-24-05 11:05 PM   #2 
  - It's not like a fatwa unless the average Catholic is as religious as the  barb162   Jul-24-05 11:12 PM   #3 
     - i didn't read this as about the average muslim or catholic  dweller   Jul-24-05 11:44 PM   #10 
     - If the so-called leaders don't have really loyal followers  barb162   Jul-24-05 11:56 PM   #11 
        - ...average catholic don't listen to the pope...  dweller   Jul-25-05 12:08 AM   #13 
           - I think you are putting words in my mouth here ... " all fanatical"  barb162   Jul-25-05 12:13 AM   #14 
              - okay, 'average is fanatic'  dweller   Jul-25-05 12:17 AM   #16 
                 - no way since I don't think the average Moslem is fanatic and I don't  barb162   Jul-25-05 12:21 AM   #18 
                    - okay  dweller   Jul-25-05 12:34 AM   #19 
     - I can only speak from personal experience, but I've NEVER seen anything  TankLV   Jul-25-05 12:34 PM   #35 
        - I don't know any here  barb162   Jul-25-05 08:46 PM   #69 
  - those madrassas have to go too, but how?  barb162   Jul-24-05 11:13 PM   #4 
  - What makes a society more secular?  K-W   Jul-25-05 01:02 AM   #20 
     - How do you explain Iran and Afghanistan  barb162   Jul-25-05 11:29 AM   #31 
        - We overthrew the elected government of Iran,  K-W   Jul-25-05 12:57 PM   #38 
           - Strangely enough, I agree with much of what you write.  barb162   Jul-25-05 08:15 PM   #67 
              - What do the 13 colonies have to do with anything?  K-W   Jul-25-05 08:52 PM   #70 
                 - I am not generalizing. Why does one culture do A  barb162   Jul-25-05 09:29 PM   #74 
                    - Similar war, what similar war?  K-W   Jul-25-05 09:55 PM   #76 
                       - Ignoring the Romans? The Romans occupied something after  barb162   Jul-25-05 10:19 PM   #79 
                          - The Romans didnt start collapsing until 500 AD  K-W   Jul-25-05 10:58 PM   #81 
                             - Do you want to take a city, Baghdad? Damascus? an area or a  barb162   Jul-25-05 11:12 PM   #83 
                                - self delete  K-W   Jul-26-05 08:14 AM   #91 
  - My guess is  Gyre   Jul-24-05 11:16 PM   #5 
  - These poor people have done this so many times but...  ConfuZed   Jul-24-05 11:17 PM   #6 
  - Muslims should ask certain US reps to renounce terror  DBoon   Jul-24-05 11:24 PM   #7 
  - Good point!  Theduckno2   Jul-25-05 12:07 AM   #12 
  - They should ask EVERY US rep. The US is a terrorist state.  K-W   Jul-25-05 01:07 AM   #21 
     - ...  dweller   Jul-25-05 01:12 AM   #22 
  - what?  madrchsod   Jul-24-05 11:32 PM   #8 
  - She's right. Violence, past or present...  DeepModem Mom   Jul-24-05 11:40 PM   #9 
  - No, you are right.  dweller   Jul-25-05 12:15 AM   #15 
  - Is violence wrong, period...  Darranar   Jul-26-05 06:40 AM   #88 
  - Does anyone see this as a precursor to the U.S. & G.B  greblc   Jul-25-05 12:17 AM   #17 
  - How many times do they have to?  bluestateguy   Jul-25-05 01:14 AM   #23 
  - This was a bogus demand in 2001 and remains bogus today.  bezdomny   Jul-25-05 01:40 AM   #25 
  - Hear hear  lumpy   Jul-25-05 10:41 AM   #30 
  - ...also speaking of the Pope and his speaking out against  0007   Jul-25-05 06:12 PM   #62 
  - Oh, that's rich.  sfexpat2000   Jul-25-05 01:54 AM   #26 
  - Is that true?  ladeuxiemevoiture   Jul-25-05 06:46 AM   #28 
     - Feinstein's husband built Centcom. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jul-25-05 12:08 PM   #33 
     - here  wuushew   Jul-25-05 12:15 PM   #34 
  - Ok, let's suppose every imam in the world denounces "terrorism"  TomClash   Jul-25-05 04:40 AM   #27 
  - How about without intentionally killing women and children?  Imajika   Jul-25-05 01:29 PM   #40 
     - ignore mispost  K-W   Jul-25-05 01:37 PM   #41 
     - Funny how this is all about Muslims . . .  TomClash   Jul-25-05 03:19 PM   #45 
        - Well, the topic was Islamic...  Imajika   Jul-25-05 07:43 PM   #66 
           - One by One  TomClash   Jul-25-05 09:09 PM   #71 
              - TomClash..  Imajika   Jul-25-05 09:33 PM   #75 
                 - No thank you  TomClash   Jul-26-05 04:52 AM   #87 
  - Terrorism isn't the only threat to the U.S.  Frances   Jul-25-05 10:17 AM   #29 
  - I think that their unequivocal support would be well received and welcomed  NNguyenMD   Jul-25-05 11:41 AM   #32 
     - Imams are more powerful in the Shia branch of Islam.  Bridget Burke   Jul-25-05 12:51 PM   #37 
  - Feinstein should talk to the media-- they have condemned it  Malikshah   Jul-25-05 12:42 PM   #36 
  - I wish lawmakers  marbuc   Jul-25-05 01:03 PM   #39 
  - I wish lawmakers would make laws that stop US terrorism and aggression.  K-W   Jul-25-05 01:39 PM   #42 
  - There's no muslim pope or archbishop  CJCRANE   Jul-25-05 01:45 PM   #43 
  - This is like christians denouncing the clan. But it  eagler   Jul-25-05 03:56 PM   #51 
  - I think she's missing the point.  CJCRANE   Jul-25-05 01:56 PM   #44 
  - collective guilt now! whoopee!  MisterP   Jul-25-05 03:25 PM   #46 
  - Wow! I actually agree with Feinstein on something.  brentspeak   Jul-25-05 03:34 PM   #47 
  - Name the Muslim leaders you've found especially meek.  Bridget Burke   Jul-25-05 03:38 PM   #48 
     - This recent "Jordan statement" a couple of weeks ago  brentspeak   Jul-25-05 03:52 PM   #49 
        - So it isnt good enough that they denounced it,  K-W   Jul-25-05 03:54 PM   #50 
        - Where did I say I wanted them to use "my words"?  brentspeak   Jul-25-05 04:17 PM   #52 
        - They did denounce all Islam based violence. EOM  K-W   Jul-25-05 05:52 PM   #56 
        - Are all "real leaders" totally pacifist?  Bridget Burke   Jul-25-05 05:58 PM   #58 
        - That was really a nice twist of the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jul-25-05 10:00 PM   #77 
        - Suppose the pope said "violence in the name of Christ  daleo   Jul-25-05 04:35 PM   #53 
  - You'd think this would be something DU'ers could agree with, but NOOOOOOOO  dolstein   Jul-25-05 04:54 PM   #55 
  - I"m part of the blame Feinstein crowd  Malikshah   Jul-25-05 05:54 PM   #57 
  - "Blame America First" & "Blame Christianity First"  Bridget Burke   Jul-25-05 06:02 PM   #59 
  - Give it a rest. Feinstein's not helping the situation by making such....  Media_Lies_Daily   Jul-25-05 06:03 PM   #60 
     - Thanks for equating the United States with Al Quaeda  dolstein   Jul-25-05 07:20 PM   #64 
        - The allies did not do everything to bring a swift conclusion to the war  wuushew   Jul-25-05 07:27 PM   #65 
        - I other words, we should have cut a deal with the Nazis and Tojo  dolstein   Jul-25-05 10:17 PM   #78 
           - I never said that  wuushew   Jul-25-05 11:05 PM   #82 
              - While you continue to apologize for and rationlize Islamic terrorism  dolstein   Jul-26-05 12:47 AM   #85 
                 - Good points  barb162   Jul-26-05 04:23 PM   #92 
                 - you lost me  Pewlett Hackard   Jul-27-05 08:52 AM   #93 
        - No war was declared against Iraq.  Bridget Burke   Jul-26-05 06:53 AM   #89 
  - Feinstein shows complete ignorance again.  The_Casual_Observer   Jul-25-05 06:07 PM   #61 
  - A top US senator  classysassy   Jul-25-05 07:02 PM   #63 
  - Feinstein's statement is fine  madmark   Jul-25-05 08:35 PM   #68 
  - No, the US should be minding its own business.  K-W   Jul-25-05 09:16 PM   #72 
     - Excuse me, but this IS our business  dolstein   Jul-25-05 10:20 PM   #80 
  - Careful what you ask for! The time is ripe for Muslims to make a  leesa   Jul-25-05 11:43 PM   #84 
  - This is the same Feinstein that has remained silent all these years  IndianaGreen   Jul-26-05 07:58 AM   #90 

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