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| Matt Cooper's Source -What Karl Rove told Time magazine's reporter |
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Edited on Sun Jul-10-05 06:15 AM by OKNancy
Readers: I am starting a new thread with the original source and with the correct subject line to avoid confusion. Thanks Matt Cooper's Source What Karl Rove told Time magazine's reporter By Michael Isikoff Newsweek July 18 issue - It was 11:07 on a Friday morning, July 11, 2003, and Time magazine correspondent Matt Cooper was tapping out an e-mail to his bureau chief, Michael Duffy. "Subject: Rove/P&C," (for personal and confidential), Cooper began. "Spoke to Rove on double super secret background for about two mins before he went on vacation..." Cooper proceeded to spell out some guidance on a story that was beginning to roil Washington. He finished, "please don't source this to rove or even WH " and suggested another reporter check with the CIA.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8525978/site/newsweek
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| -Matt Cooper's Source -What Karl Rove told Time magazine's reporter |
OKNancy |
Jul-10-05 06:11 AM |
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Huff Post: Newsweek Docs Show Rove Leaked CIA Agent's Name |
ruggerson |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
#1 |
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Bye-bye, Karl. |
kgfnally |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
#2 |
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no..... |
jaysunb |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
#6 |
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People will see through to the fact that Bush-Cheney broke the law, Big |
leveymg |
Jul-10-05 06:47 AM |
#34 |
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There's another huge scandal connected to this, Espionage Act |
leveymg |
Jul-10-05 07:59 AM |
#52 |
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They were desperate to cover up their trumped up reasons |
janx |
Jul-10-05 10:22 AM |
#85 |
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In addition to that, and I think this was the primary reason for their.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jul-10-05 10:54 AM |
#99 |
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Thanks for pointing that out. |
janx |
Jul-10-05 11:29 AM |
#112 |
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BINGO!!! Bush and admin lied on purpose about WMDs. They knew |
bribri16 |
Jul-10-05 06:26 PM |
#147 |
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Yes - the fact that people lying about the threat of WMDs... |
Zhade |
Jul-10-05 07:25 PM |
#158 |
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and all that left us undefended, and in danger, too. Treason, on |
jazzjunkysue |
Jul-10-05 08:53 PM |
#166 |
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Perhaps a conspiracy charge will hold? RICO? |
skip fox |
Jul-10-05 03:07 PM |
#137 |
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I think what has become absoloutely clear.... |
BCBud |
Jul-10-05 06:40 PM |
#150 |
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The 'buck stops here' |
Nite Owl |
Jul-10-05 07:37 AM |
#46 |
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Don't forget to rate the story up people. n/t |
FourStarDemocrat |
Jul-10-05 09:24 AM |
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Rated a 5. Thanks for the reminder! |
Scout1071 |
Jul-10-05 10:03 AM |
#78 |
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i'll believe it when i see it- |
LiberallyInclined |
Jul-10-05 04:39 PM |
#144 |
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They got him on perjury and obstruction of justice and Abuse of |
lovuian |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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According to the article.. |
hang a left |
Jul-10-05 09:29 AM |
#64 |
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"Rove's counsel" is an excellent source of information. NOT. |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jul-10-05 10:32 AM |
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The same counsel that said Rove *wasn't* the source? |
Roland99 |
Jul-10-05 07:06 PM |
#155 |
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He may go quietly..but, he'll just continue his dirty/evil work from home. |
Auntie Bush |
Jul-10-05 09:49 AM |
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Yes, Rove could resign to "spend more time with his family"... |
Olney Blue |
Jul-10-05 06:57 PM |
#153 |
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Curiouser and curiouser. nt |
bilgewaterbill |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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I am getting a message from the past |
realpolitik |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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And WHY did Herr Busch retain a lawyer almost immediately? |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jul-10-05 10:35 AM |
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Worse than Watergate !! |
wookie294 |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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"Moderate voters" were onto the Bush Cartel long ago. |
Peace Patriot |
Jul-10-05 11:14 AM |
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Hey Peace Patriot |
bearfan454 |
Jul-10-05 01:01 PM |
#125 |
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Yes, but there weren't enough moderate voters |
wookie294 |
Jul-10-05 03:31 PM |
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An outstanding post, Peace Patriot! |
Doremus |
Jul-10-05 07:28 PM |
#161 |
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"Nearly 60% of Americans disapproved of the Iraq war BEFORE the invasion." |
Zhade |
Jul-10-05 07:35 PM |
#162 |
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This is the best analysis I've seen of this issue... |
Iowa |
Jul-10-05 09:09 PM |
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Infinitely Worse Than Watergate - This Could Get us Nuked! |
AndyTiedye |
Jul-10-05 03:03 PM |
#136 |
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not just ruining WMD sting operations |
wli |
Jul-10-05 09:19 PM |
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Just another piece of Bush legacy |
Erika |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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Kick.... absolutely. Never before has your government been so |
4MoronicYears |
Jul-10-05 06:24 AM |
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It will be Karma for the man who stole the 2000 & 2004 elections |
lovuian |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
#9 |
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Now, now. |
aquart |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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Don't. Celebrate. Yet. |
bluestateguy |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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Yeah, there's a couple of things that concern me |
brentspeak |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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Exactly |
goclark |
Jul-10-05 09:43 AM |
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Hate Newsweek? Hell these |
xxqqqzme |
Jul-10-05 10:37 AM |
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They brag about it too... |
GoBlue |
Jul-11-05 10:29 AM |
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There were two sources. |
Rockholm |
Jul-10-05 06:23 PM |
#146 |
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Well put. |
daleo |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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Indeed, we know just how slippery Karl is |
acmejack |
Jul-10-05 06:46 AM |
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Absotively Posolutely Right... |
powwowdancer |
Jul-10-05 08:00 AM |
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Thank you. Somebody has to point that out |
Jack Rabbit |
Jul-10-05 10:16 AM |
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yes, but as you state in your comments |
notadmblnd |
Jul-10-05 10:37 AM |
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They expected him to go along with them. Exactly. |
Jack Rabbit |
Jul-10-05 11:00 AM |
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"what Rove wanted the press to say" |
fishnfla |
Jul-10-05 11:09 AM |
#105 |
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Yes. They were still doing that in the Summer of 2003. |
Jack Rabbit |
Jul-10-05 11:21 AM |
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Cross your fingers |
saskatoon |
Jul-10-05 03:32 PM |
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But this is the first time they've faced a grand jury, a very determined.. |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jul-10-05 10:59 AM |
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And they no longer have any reason to push the war. |
janx |
Jul-10-05 11:34 AM |
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This is exactly what infuriates me the most! |
Im with Rosey |
Jul-10-05 06:21 PM |
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True, true, true, don't uncork the champagne. |
Massachusetts |
Jul-11-05 06:12 AM |
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I'm glad this is from David Corn |
brentspeak |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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Is this it? |
dotcosm |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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EXPOSED: Crooked Republicans Dressed as Angels |
stepnw1f |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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If this is the case, Newsweek sure as hell got their revenge. |
Writer |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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Note that this story is by Michael Isakoff |
bklyncowgirl |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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Heck, yeah. |
Writer |
Jul-10-05 11:32 AM |
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"double super secret background" |
CJCRANE |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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If they weren't trying to manipulate the intelligence on iraq they |
deacon |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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That's his quibble? He didn't say her name? |
aquart |
Jul-10-05 06:12 AM |
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Who told Karl? |
alcuno |
Jul-10-05 07:09 AM |
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Yes indeed it is. His identification of a CIA agent alone is |
janx |
Jul-10-05 09:47 AM |
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Plame's CIA company, Brewster Jennings, researched petrobusiness... |
johnfunk |
Jul-10-05 09:29 AM |
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MSNBC/Newsweek: Rove IS Matt Cooper's source!!!! |
Melodybe |
Jul-10-05 06:13 AM |
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tokyo rove is going down, baby! |
truthisfreedom |
Jul-10-05 06:13 AM |
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Presidential pardon forthcoming............. |
ClintonTyree |
Jul-10-05 06:13 AM |
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Even his fellow GOPers won't stand for that. |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jul-10-05 10:36 AM |
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Even Shrub would have trouble "backing his man" on this. |
joeunderdog |
Jul-10-05 07:23 PM |
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"I won't testify. The risks are too great. The government is too powerful. |
gatorboy |
Jul-10-05 06:13 AM |
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Yeah... |
SHRED |
Jul-10-05 06:13 AM |
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Miller knows something |
janx |
Jul-10-05 10:49 AM |
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Judy Miller ratfucked Fitzgerald, killed his investigation into terror $ |
johnfunk |
Jul-10-05 11:22 AM |
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YIKES. |
janx |
Jul-10-05 11:44 AM |
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I guess you have immunity if you commit treason as a reporter. |
joeunderdog |
Jul-10-05 07:26 PM |
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the government she lied for, shilled for, wrote propaganda for is too |
ixion |
Jul-10-05 06:13 AM |
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I thought the same exact thing when I read that. |
NYdemocrat089 |
Jul-10-05 10:22 AM |
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That Should be the Headline of the Article! |
AndyTiedye |
Jul-10-05 10:38 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jul-10-05 06:13 AM |
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Hope this works better than the DSM to put a dent in this administration! |
splat@14 |
Jul-10-05 07:33 AM |
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Kick this mutha !! |
wookie294 |
Jul-10-05 07:37 AM |
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Well I'm glad to see |
Jawja |
Jul-10-05 09:57 AM |
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If Rove did tell Cooper, and Cooper will testify to it, ... |
damntexdem |
Jul-10-05 11:31 AM |
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What they all want you to forget.... |
Ravy |
Jul-10-05 11:36 AM |
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Something's wrong with this. |
cornermouse |
Jul-10-05 06:16 AM |
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how did a copy of the email get leaked? i hope it's not Rathergate again. |
truthisfreedom |
Jul-10-05 06:19 AM |
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Sooner or later, I guess we'll find out. |
cornermouse |
Jul-10-05 06:56 AM |
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Maybe it was coming out anyway. |
bklyncowgirl |
Jul-10-05 06:50 AM |
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Certainly a possibility, but Rove always seems to have an |
cornermouse |
Jul-10-05 06:55 AM |
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Not typical at all |
goclark |
Jul-10-05 09:47 AM |
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Exactly. n/t |
janx |
Jul-10-05 10:04 AM |
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Simple. |
KnaveRupe |
Jul-10-05 07:02 AM |
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The point seems to be that she is scared. |
reprobate |
Jul-10-05 10:28 AM |
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Because he wants to give the impression he has nothing to hide. |
Skwmom |
Jul-10-05 07:04 AM |
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Because Rove knows that nothing will happen to him. |
zanne |
Jul-10-05 07:25 AM |
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Why would Rove give Cooper permission to identify his source? |
johnfunk |
Jul-10-05 09:32 AM |
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I've been wondering about that. Was "permission" given sarcastically? |
Shakespeare |
Jul-11-05 11:29 AM |
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Because he knew it would come out anyway, probably. |
janx |
Jul-10-05 09:59 AM |
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because KR's line of defense is already set... |
dooner |
Jul-10-05 10:58 AM |
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A "messy case"?! |
leftchick |
Jul-10-05 06:20 AM |
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I don't think Isikoff understands that this isn't just part of |
janx |
Jul-10-05 11:38 AM |
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linky no worky.... |
Maine-ah |
Jul-10-05 07:24 AM |
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It's working fine for me |
OKNancy |
Jul-10-05 07:30 AM |
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the ratbastard is stinking to high heaven or is it low hell?? |
NVMojo |
Jul-10-05 07:29 AM |
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"implied strongly..." |
dave29 |
Jul-10-05 07:43 AM |
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That was in July 2003 |
Jack Rabbit |
Jul-10-05 08:46 AM |
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Maybe Karl is thinking Miller will take the rap for him |
cap |
Jul-10-05 07:47 AM |
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It think there is something to this |
fishnfla |
Jul-10-05 11:14 AM |
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Rove has caught it! He's caught the WHANGDEPOOTENAWAH! |
TacticalPeek |
Jul-10-05 07:51 AM |
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Couldn't Bush just PARDON Rove for any crimes he may have committed? |
Bent Corner |
Jul-10-05 07:59 AM |
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Not for treason... |
berni_mccoy |
Jul-10-05 09:36 AM |
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Wouldn't that backfire |
NYdemocrat089 |
Jul-10-05 10:24 AM |
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YES, it would. |
janx |
Jul-10-05 11:21 AM |
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It appears Rove gave permission to Cooper to name source after... |
kentuck |
Jul-10-05 08:08 AM |
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Ah, that explains it |
berni_mccoy |
Jul-10-05 09:39 AM |
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It sounds like Cooper forced Rove's hand |
Writer |
Jul-10-05 11:34 AM |
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For reference: Cooper's story in Time magazine (7.17.2003) |
Jack Rabbit |
Jul-10-05 08:25 AM |
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I see Rove's game now. |
Kagemusha |
Jul-10-05 08:32 AM |
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I sincerely hope.. |
sendero |
Jul-10-05 09:03 AM |
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You're right--it won't. |
janx |
Jul-10-05 09:45 AM |
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Ribbit! Ribbit! Ribbit! |
Seabiscuit |
Jul-10-05 09:08 AM |
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Stick a fork in KKKarl...he is done. |
lateo |
Jul-10-05 09:22 AM |
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Federal pound me in the ass prison |
Bleachers7 |
Jul-10-05 10:30 AM |
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Love your Initech ID - |
bitchkitty |
Jul-10-05 11:04 AM |
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From what I hear, I think he'd like that. |
6000eliot |
Jul-10-05 06:47 PM |
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True... |
lateo |
Jul-11-05 08:22 AM |
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The thing to remember about Grand Juries |
okasha |
Jul-10-05 09:24 AM |
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I have to wonder if Miller's jailing is over something other than a source |
txindy |
Jul-10-05 01:06 PM |
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I find it just as disturbing |
doodadem |
Jul-10-05 09:27 AM |
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Desperate freeper justification and spin: |
janx |
Jul-10-05 09:46 AM |
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The usual denial from people who should know better |
Jack Rabbit |
Jul-10-05 10:21 AM |
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When political partisanship gets that bad--to the point |
janx |
Jul-10-05 10:23 AM |
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There's always going to be a lot of that |
Jack Rabbit |
Jul-10-05 10:30 AM |
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So much for the "Multiple Sources" theory |
berni_mccoy |
Jul-10-05 09:50 AM |
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"Fully dismissed" by whom? Rove is the tip of the iceberg, IMHO.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Jul-10-05 10:48 AM |
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Methinks the WH got greedy after they laundered their first "hot tip" |
joeunderdog |
Jul-10-05 07:36 PM |
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How about Judith Miller? |
DubyaSux |
Jul-10-05 10:08 AM |
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One thing at a time... |
janx |
Jul-10-05 10:11 AM |
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We don't know |
Jack Rabbit |
Jul-10-05 10:27 AM |
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If Fitz has enough to bring charges with |
shraby |
Jul-10-05 11:08 AM |
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When is Cooper supposed to testify? n/t |
janx |
Jul-10-05 11:16 AM |
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How could she take the 5th? |
Jack Rabbit |
Jul-10-05 11:31 AM |
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So, ultimately, she has to talk? n/t |
janx |
Jul-10-05 11:41 AM |
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Technically, yes |
Jack Rabbit |
Jul-10-05 11:46 AM |
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Depending on what cooper testifies to |
notadmblnd |
Jul-10-05 12:51 PM |
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Right now, she hasn't been charged |
Jack Rabbit |
Jul-10-05 01:02 PM |
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we don't have any reason to believe she won't |
notadmblnd |
Jul-10-05 01:12 PM |
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Oh, yes, she's hiding something, all right |
Jack Rabbit |
Jul-10-05 02:42 PM |
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I agree |
notadmblnd |
Jul-10-05 04:30 PM |
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Keep |
janx |
Jul-10-05 12:33 PM |
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I've always felt that KKKarl would eventually overreach his abilities |
txindy |
Jul-10-05 01:02 PM |
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Howard Dean has maintained |
janx |
Jul-10-05 01:04 PM |
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Then I agree with Howard |
txindy |
Jul-10-05 01:10 PM |
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It's a matter of character. And after all of the despicable |
janx |
Jul-10-05 01:16 PM |
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Embarrassing post.... |
joeunderdog |
Jul-10-05 07:42 PM |
#164 |
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Kick. |
TacticalPeek |
Jul-10-05 02:45 PM |
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Other Rovian nightmares . . . |
skip fox |
Jul-10-05 03:02 PM |
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If Fitzgerald can prove that, it would make our day |
Jack Rabbit |
Jul-10-05 03:14 PM |
#138 |
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Substantively rich DU thread on Rove's role with hot links to |
skip fox |
Jul-10-05 03:23 PM |
#139 |
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Rove |
WinkyDink |
Jul-10-05 03:24 PM |
#140 |
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omigod |
freeEarthLove |
Jul-10-05 06:31 PM |
#148 |
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It's all over but the sentencing!! |
Roland99 |
Jul-10-05 06:37 PM |
#149 |
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Please take your reality pills. Rove nor anyone else in Bush's |
against all enemies |
Jul-10-05 06:50 PM |
#152 |
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scandal vs. influence |
wli |
Jul-11-05 01:09 AM |
#170 |
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Let's not do "the dance of joy" just yet. . . |
Paula Sims |
Jul-10-05 07:05 PM |
#154 |
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Can the Impeachment starts before the SCOTUS nominations? |
Blaq Dem |
Jul-10-05 07:15 PM |
#156 |
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WP: Bush aide Rove was Time reporter's source-Newsweek |
No DUplicitous DUpe |
Jul-10-05 07:26 PM |
#160 |
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doesn't matter if he didn't use her name, he leaked her identity |
ScamUSA.Com |
Jul-10-05 08:28 PM |
#165 |
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Great thread and informative as well, thank you |
GetTheRightVote |
Jul-11-05 02:55 AM |
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NBC's Today Show just covered this as a top headline!! |
Roland99 |
Jul-11-05 06:14 AM |
#173 |
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Gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency, by rove |
GoBlue |
Jul-11-05 11:09 AM |
#176 |
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Yeah Right |
Oreegone |
Jul-11-05 11:28 AM |
#177 |
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Rove going down in Plames. Prob. at least 2 indictments. |
skip fox |
Jul-11-05 11:45 AM |
#179 |