| 94. Other Islamist websites seem to have doubts about statement's authenticity |
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British analyst Eedle said, "I think the way to judge Internet messages is by what the Islamists ... online themselves think of them. Genuine communiqués like the ones from Iraq are very rapidly copied to a host of different Islamic Web sites and e-mail lists. This one hasn't (been)." http://uk.news.yahoo.com/050707/325/fmvkh.html |
| -Statement claiming London attacks : BBC |
emad |
Jul-07-05 09:08 AM |
#0 |
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They're sick people who need to be removed from this earth. |
Squatch |
Jul-07-05 09:10 AM |
#1 |
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I had no idea! |
tigereye |
Jul-07-05 09:12 AM |
#4 |
| -
We Are All Londoners Today (eom) |
NuConvert |
Jul-07-05 09:15 AM |
#7 |
| -
Well, that may be true, but remember who it was that launched |
leesa |
Jul-07-05 09:55 AM |
#24 |
| -
I have to agree with you completely. :( |
NoSheep |
Jul-07-05 10:03 AM |
#27 |
| -
Sick and disgusting... |
youspeakmylanguage |
Jul-07-05 10:13 AM |
#32 |
| -
Iraqbodycount shows media reported deaths |
daleo |
Jul-07-05 11:00 AM |
#45 |
| -
Didn't we warn about inciting more terrorism? |
zanne |
Jul-07-05 11:39 AM |
#54 |
| -
Well, she speaks for me |
KevinJ |
Jul-07-05 12:23 PM |
#63 |
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Not once did you mention the pivotal line in her post... |
youspeakmylanguage |
Jul-07-05 04:33 PM |
#116 |
| -
I believe it's called a rhetorical question |
KevinJ |
Jul-07-05 07:44 PM |
#130 |
| -
very well said, kevin. n/t |
orleans |
Jul-07-05 08:34 PM |
#140 |
| -
that pivotal line was in response to post #1 |
soaky |
Jul-07-05 08:05 PM |
#134 |
| -
chill, dude! you are reading too much into this and trying to filibuster |
NVMojo |
Jul-07-05 08:48 PM |
#143 |
| -
LEAVE IRAQ NOW , POODLE |
chomskysright |
Jul-08-05 12:51 PM |
#176 |
| -
What is that about? |
BrendaStarr |
Jul-07-05 01:37 PM |
#92 |
| -
She voiced hers, I voiced mine... |
youspeakmylanguage |
Jul-07-05 04:24 PM |
#114 |
| -
Dead Iraqis make you touchy? |
Zhade |
Jul-07-05 02:06 PM |
#98 |
| -
actually, I agree with the views, we have terrorized Iraq & its citizens |
NVMojo |
Jul-07-05 08:46 PM |
#142 |
| -
Any idea what you're talking about |
hoboken123 |
Jul-07-05 10:43 PM |
#152 |
| -
Were 911 and Bali in response to Iraq too? |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 10:19 AM |
#36 |
| -
It's more likely that... |
geomon666 |
Jul-07-05 12:21 PM |
#62 |
| -
More likely in response to |
Coastie for Truth |
Jul-07-05 04:39 PM |
#117 |
| -
Bali and Istanbul were to prove that al Qaeda was still powerful |
BrendaStarr |
Jul-07-05 02:00 PM |
#96 |
| -
The point is that the notion that the AQ terrorists are merely responding |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 05:07 PM |
#122 |
| -
sounds like the ed schultz show to me. i think this is just what |
orleans |
Jul-07-05 08:37 PM |
#141 |
| -
You're newer to the grudge match than al Qaeda is |
KevinJ |
Jul-08-05 09:00 AM |
#171 |
| -
Yours is a much more balanced perspective. |
Talismom |
Jul-07-05 01:33 PM |
#90 |
| -
Welcome to DU, Talismom! I agree. |
Zhade |
Jul-07-05 02:09 PM |
#100 |
| -
All terrorism is wrong, including... |
Voltaire99 |
Jul-07-05 04:14 PM |
#112 |
| -
When western society gets attacked it's an overwhelming |
katty |
Jul-07-05 04:46 PM |
#118 |
| -
I Have To Agree As Well |
stepnw1f |
Jul-07-05 04:31 PM |
#115 |
| -
We too |
saskatoon |
Jul-07-05 05:04 PM |
#121 |
| -
Thank you Leesa... You definitely speak for me |
Tinoire |
Jul-07-05 08:11 PM |
#135 |
| -
All terrorism and unjustified wars must be condemned |
bluestateguy |
Jul-07-05 09:18 PM |
#146 |
| -
BRAVO! Well Stated!!! |
Behind the Aegis |
Jul-07-05 10:26 PM |
#150 |
| -
It is possible that this is EXACTLY the reaction that whoever was |
Zorra |
Jul-07-05 12:35 PM |
#68 |
| -
Agreed. Turn the tables on them. |
BrendaStarr |
Jul-07-05 02:03 PM |
#97 |
| -
YOU ARE RIGHT- this is a FAKE ISLAMIC Website-to TARGET the BLAME |
NIGHT TRIPPER |
Jul-07-05 07:01 PM |
#129 |
| -
What did you expect? Learning from the best - *! |
Kittycat |
Jul-07-05 12:39 PM |
#71 |
| -
each and every one is a terrorist to them? |
onenote |
Jul-07-05 01:18 PM |
#83 |
| -
Then what are we? |
BrendaStarr |
Jul-07-05 01:34 PM |
#91 |
| -
Thank you, God, for your healing gift of religion. |
swag |
Jul-07-05 09:11 AM |
#2 |
| -
Amen! nt |
the other one |
Jul-07-05 10:07 AM |
#30 |
| -
But no thank you for the hatred religion inspires. |
BurtWorm |
Jul-07-05 10:38 AM |
#40 |
| -
Amen. "The opiate of the masses" will end up killing us all. |
Straight Shooter |
Jul-07-05 12:01 PM |
#59 |
| -
"Thank you, 'Mankind' for your healing gift of religion" |
RadiDem |
Jul-07-05 01:13 PM |
#81 |
| -
Zing! It has the ring of truth. |
Zhade |
Jul-07-05 02:11 PM |
#101 |
| -
It doesn't mean anything yet |
justinsb |
Jul-07-05 09:12 AM |
#3 |
| -
Not enough damage for Al Queda? |
spinbaby |
Jul-07-05 09:26 AM |
#12 |
| -
Reads like a Caricature to me. |
Morose |
Jul-07-05 12:39 PM |
#69 |
| -
Agreed. The syntax is questionable at best |
deacon2 |
Jul-07-05 01:27 PM |
#88 |
| -
Abu Musab al-Goldstein does exist, he's allegedly in Iraq... |
Zhade |
Jul-07-05 02:13 PM |
#102 |
| -
Oh c'mon now. You know he grew the leg back too. n/t |
Mzztakable |
Jul-07-05 02:47 PM |
#107 |
| -
Has anyone even heard of this group before today? |
mom cat |
Jul-07-05 09:13 AM |
#5 |
| -
very specifically NO.see thread... |
Monkie |
Jul-07-05 09:25 AM |
#11 |
| -
Well |
rsmith6621 |
Jul-07-05 09:13 AM |
#6 |
| -
But he wanted to be known as a "War President". |
reprobate |
Jul-07-05 12:48 PM |
#74 |
| -
I personally now hereby label him the "WarP RESIDENT"-he's pretty warped |
CHICKEN CAPITOL USA |
Jul-08-05 02:00 AM |
#169 |
| -
Yes they're all crazy religious zealots |
wtmusic |
Jul-07-05 09:18 AM |
#8 |
| -
Various "grammatical and theological errors in the text". |
allemand |
Jul-07-05 09:22 AM |
#9 |
| -
There are keyboard commandos in the Arabic-speaking world, too. |
TahitiNut |
Jul-07-05 09:27 AM |
#13 |
| -
El CIAda? |
NCevilDUer |
Jul-07-05 10:48 AM |
#41 |
| -
Of course, it was Al-CIAda. |
reprobate |
Jul-07-05 12:54 PM |
#76 |
| -
a cartoon from a UK website. |
SoCalDem |
Jul-07-05 02:08 PM |
#99 |
| -
They are not only criminal but insultingly transparent & sloppy. |
Tinoire |
Jul-07-05 08:13 PM |
#136 |
| -
Only people to blame for this attack: Bush and Blair |
Mari333 |
Jul-07-05 09:24 AM |
#10 |
| -
And what about the Islamist terrorists? |
allemand |
Jul-07-05 09:27 AM |
#14 |
| -
Nah...doncha know? They're the victims here. |
Squatch |
Jul-07-05 09:30 AM |
#16 |
| -
Whatever we do, we must avoid blaming brave resistance fighters |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 09:34 AM |
#18 |
| -
Bad bad religious zealots! Shame on them for not cooperating |
wtmusic |
Jul-07-05 09:46 AM |
#22 |
| -
This is a part of the problem,wtmusic. |
lumpy |
Jul-07-05 12:53 PM |
#75 |
| -
How do you know it wasn't British Intelligence that carried this out. |
LibertyorDeath |
Jul-07-05 12:21 PM |
#61 |
| -
I'm sure you have evidence to support that? |
Jimdish25 |
Jul-07-05 12:34 PM |
#67 |
| -
You think they care about us. LOL |
LibertyorDeath |
Jul-07-05 01:25 PM |
#86 |
| -
How do you know it wasn't a Zoroastrian monk named Vilma who planned |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 01:09 PM |
#80 |
| -
We know the lengths that people |
lumpy |
Jul-07-05 01:06 PM |
#79 |
| -
God forbid we blame the obscene war criminals behind this! |
Tinoire |
Jul-07-05 08:20 PM |
#137 |
| -
If you don't consider the people who bombed the WTC, Bali, Madrid, |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 10:47 PM |
#155 |
| -
These attacks would not have happened |
Mari333 |
Jul-07-05 09:35 AM |
#19 |
| -
The terrorists told you why they bombed London? Did they also explain |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 09:58 AM |
#26 |
| -
You are so right! I can't BELIEVE we are even arguing about this! |
NoSheep |
Jul-07-05 10:05 AM |
#29 |
| -
Because there was plenty of AQ terrorism before the invasion of Iraq? |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 10:20 AM |
#37 |
| -
Precisely. |
Squatch |
Jul-07-05 10:26 AM |
#38 |
| -
as I said, for every Iraqi killed, Bush and Blair |
Mari333 |
Jul-07-05 11:13 AM |
#48 |
| -
It was happening before we invaded Iraq. There's no reason to think that |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 11:22 AM |
#50 |
| -
We had a chance before 9/11 |
Mari333 |
Jul-07-05 11:33 AM |
#51 |
| -
Sorry, I can't join the "we deserve to be killed" chorus. I'm sure you'll |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 11:53 AM |
#55 |
| -
Nobody's saying 'we deserved to be killed' |
wtmusic |
Jul-07-05 12:34 PM |
#66 |
| -
Exactly |
KevinJ |
Jul-07-05 12:47 PM |
#73 |
| -
Remember the embassy bombings? Bali? Turkey? Tunisia? |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 05:35 PM |
#127 |
| -
Wholly unprovoked? |
KevinJ |
Jul-07-05 07:57 PM |
#133 |
| -
Al Qaeda are vicious, theocratic, nihilistic murderers. Their concerns |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 10:44 PM |
#153 |
| -
Wow, how nice to have such confidence in your views! |
KevinJ |
Jul-08-05 08:40 AM |
#170 |
| -
Except that AQ are in fact murderers, thugs, criminals, and terrorists. |
geek tragedy |
Jul-08-05 10:52 AM |
#172 |
| -
Ah yes, how silly of me |
KevinJ |
Jul-08-05 11:34 AM |
#174 |
| -
You're sounding exactly like the kind of people Rove was describing. |
geek tragedy |
Jul-08-05 12:44 PM |
#175 |
| -
You betcha, and proud of it |
KevinJ |
Jul-08-05 02:08 PM |
#177 |
| -
I agree it is important to understand bin Laden--in order to utterly |
geek tragedy |
Jul-08-05 02:17 PM |
#178 |
| -
Then how do you explain the fact that AQ has never bombed Sweden? |
wtmusic |
Jul-07-05 10:19 PM |
#148 |
| -
They bomb us because we're powerful. The United States |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 10:45 PM |
#154 |
| -
We aren't doing so hot on preventing the establishment of theocracies-- |
eridani |
Jul-07-05 11:01 PM |
#161 |
| -
Invading Iraq was counterproductive on about twenty levels. Of course, |
geek tragedy |
Jul-08-05 12:36 AM |
#166 |
| -
Ah, so they're gonna beat us to the punch, are they? |
wtmusic |
Jul-07-05 11:25 PM |
#163 |
| -
They want to purge the Muslim world of modernity and western influence. |
geek tragedy |
Jul-08-05 12:37 AM |
#167 |
| -
That's a blatant misrepresentation of the poster's words. |
Zhade |
Jul-07-05 02:21 PM |
#104 |
| -
Here are the poster's words: |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 05:33 PM |
#126 |
| -
Yes, those are the poster's words. |
Zhade |
Jul-07-05 08:51 PM |
#144 |
| -
"We reap what we sow" means "we get what we deserve." eom |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 10:50 PM |
#157 |
| -
That's an unusual interpretation. |
Zhade |
Jul-07-05 11:25 PM |
#162 |
| -
exactly...why do folks repeatedly misreprestent that POV? |
U4ikLefty |
Jul-08-05 12:59 AM |
#168 |
| -
Desperation to make an invalid, incorrect point, I'd say. |
Zhade |
Jul-08-05 02:18 PM |
#179 |
| -
I guess we just have seen it used in different ways. |
geek tragedy |
Jul-08-05 06:38 PM |
#180 |
| -
We funded the Taleban when they were fighting Russian invasion |
Mari333 |
Jul-07-05 02:39 PM |
#105 |
| -
It was not the "Taliban" we were funding in the 70's through the '80s. |
6th Borough |
Jul-07-05 02:46 PM |
#106 |
| -
We gave them arms, ammo, and money |
Mari333 |
Jul-07-05 02:49 PM |
#108 |
| -
I in no way disagree. |
6th Borough |
Jul-07-05 11:31 PM |
#165 |
| -
I think he means Al Queda... |
Apple Smoothie |
Jul-07-05 04:59 PM |
#120 |
| -
Perhaps the Taliban didn't exist .. |
Maat |
Jul-07-05 09:34 PM |
#147 |
| -
On the flip side |
tkmorris |
Jul-07-05 11:34 AM |
#52 |
| -
There's a lot more terrorism--in Iraq. The true aftershock won't be |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 11:55 AM |
#56 |
| -
No.... |
Apple Smoothie |
Jul-07-05 04:55 PM |
#119 |
| -
Did you ever stop to think thay they" hate us because " we" exploit "them" |
Coastie for Truth |
Jul-07-05 05:08 PM |
#123 |
| -
I completely agree |
Apple Smoothie |
Jul-07-05 08:31 PM |
#138 |
| -
That site is just a wee bit delusional. |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 05:30 PM |
#125 |
| -
Granted some of it a bit crazy... |
Apple Smoothie |
Jul-07-05 08:32 PM |
#139 |
| -
Yep. But one doesn't see Vietnamese or Nicaraguans launching |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 10:49 PM |
#156 |
| -
Because sometimes... |
AngryOldDem |
Jul-07-05 12:31 PM |
#64 |
| -
How's about we start by finding out WHO to blame? |
Nihil |
Jul-07-05 09:55 AM |
#23 |
| -
Who else? |
allemand |
Jul-07-05 10:05 AM |
#28 |
| -
How long have you got? :-) |
Nihil |
Jul-07-05 10:55 AM |
#43 |
| -
Of course, at this point in time we can only speculate. |
allemand |
Jul-07-05 11:37 AM |
#53 |
| -
Strange there was not |
lumpy |
Jul-07-05 01:17 PM |
#82 |
| -
Sure..... |
Imajika |
Jul-07-05 09:38 AM |
#20 |
| -
good -- then i hope you have signed up |
xchrom |
Jul-07-05 09:58 AM |
#25 |
| -
Such a silly response... |
Imajika |
Jul-07-05 10:11 AM |
#31 |
| -
if you can spout silliness -- then anyone else can. |
xchrom |
Jul-07-05 10:35 AM |
#39 |
| -
So do you blame Clinton... |
Imajika |
Jul-07-05 10:51 AM |
#42 |
| -
Clinton is partially to blame along with every president back to the one |
Mzztakable |
Jul-07-05 03:07 PM |
#109 |
| -
Alternative analogy |
KevinJ |
Jul-07-05 12:32 PM |
#65 |
| -
I'm okay with that analogy... |
Imajika |
Jul-07-05 12:42 PM |
#72 |
| -
Great analogy, KevinJ |
lumpy |
Jul-07-05 01:20 PM |
#84 |
| -
Maybe they are pissed off at Big Oil, and the House of Saud |
Coastie for Truth |
Jul-07-05 05:11 PM |
#124 |
| -
They are the ONLY people to blame? Are you sure about that? |
Shell Beau |
Jul-07-05 01:03 PM |
#78 |
| -
sorry,but the folks who actually did this get their share of the blame too |
onenote |
Jul-07-05 01:21 PM |
#85 |
| -
Three weeks ago UK cops arrested five Iranians accused of |
emad |
Jul-07-05 09:30 AM |
#15 |
| -
Police just said they have no claim of responsibility |
MaineDem |
Jul-07-05 09:31 AM |
#17 |
| -
Fatalities update: At least 45 dead - London Evening Standard |
emad |
Jul-07-05 09:42 AM |
#21 |
| -
I hope they find evidence to link Chimp and drag him away in handcuffs! |
NIGHT TRIPPER |
Jul-07-05 07:50 PM |
#132 |
| -
the Secret Organisation Group of al-Qaeda of Jihad Organisation in Europe |
leftofthedial |
Jul-07-05 10:14 AM |
#33 |
| -
Let's hear it! Never take the focus off the hardball and forget those |
emad |
Jul-07-05 10:17 AM |
#34 |
| -
is that like being on "double secret probation"? |
orleans |
Jul-07-05 12:39 PM |
#70 |
| -
that was the description in rove's memo |
leftofthedial |
Jul-07-05 03:54 PM |
#111 |
| -
That name is Exactly the same!-where is this from? PNAC? |
NIGHT TRIPPER |
Jul-07-05 07:45 PM |
#131 |
| -
This is not a reliable claim |
psychopomp |
Jul-07-05 10:17 AM |
#35 |
| -
Bush is one lucky fellow |
daleo |
Jul-07-05 10:57 AM |
#44 |
| -
Luck my ass. nt |
bemildred |
Jul-07-05 11:03 AM |
#46 |
| -
Well I am being ironic. |
daleo |
Jul-07-05 11:09 AM |
#47 |
| -
Its all a little too convenient |
arikara |
Jul-07-05 11:17 AM |
#49 |
| -
Please remove tinfoil hat |
alphadog |
Jul-07-05 12:01 PM |
#58 |
| -
Are you trying to be funny? |
arikara |
Jul-07-05 11:28 PM |
#164 |
| -
That is what I thought too |
whosinpower |
Jul-07-05 12:04 PM |
#60 |
| -
Bush a lucky fool... |
Jimdish25 |
Jul-07-05 11:59 AM |
#57 |
| -
well said Jimdish - |
Pallas180 |
Jul-07-05 01:01 PM |
#77 |
| -
wheee another alkayeeda related website ?!? uh fuck off |
patalicat |
Jul-07-05 01:27 PM |
#87 |
| -
Mossad? Why is it mentioned here?! |
Behind the Aegis |
Jul-07-05 01:32 PM |
#89 |
| -
You know why. |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 10:52 PM |
#159 |
| -
Yep. |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 10:51 PM |
#158 |
| -
Okay - I'll post again |
deacon2 |
Jul-07-05 01:42 PM |
#93 |
| -
I thought that too. |
knitter4democracy |
Jul-07-05 10:26 PM |
#149 |
| -
Too bad you're relying on false reports. Netanyahu wasn't warned in |
geek tragedy |
Jul-07-05 10:53 PM |
#160 |
| -
London Terror Tip-off: Timeline Refutes Israeli Denial |
Roland99 |
Jul-09-05 08:41 AM |
#182 |
| -
Other Islamist websites seem to have doubts about statement's authenticity |
allemand |
Jul-07-05 01:48 PM |
#94 |
| -
also its a anonymous posting on a forum n/t |
Monkie |
Jul-07-05 02:13 PM |
#103 |
| -
Some details on the discussions among Islamists about the statement: |
allemand |
Jul-07-05 03:37 PM |
#110 |
| -
CNN reporting on TV that this *seems* like a fake |
DinoBoy |
Jul-07-05 01:52 PM |
#95 |
| -
Yes, but.. |
HR_Pufnstuf |
Jul-07-05 04:14 PM |
#113 |
| -
what? Something with the name ULTRA "Secret" SUPER SPECIAL.... |
jsamuel |
Jul-07-05 05:38 PM |
#128 |
| -
North, south, east, west? |
CrazyForKucinich |
Jul-07-05 09:15 PM |
#145 |
| -
Hmmmm ..... |
stickdog |
Jul-07-05 10:34 PM |
#151 |
| -
London blasts may have Pak link |
allemand |
Jul-08-05 10:54 AM |
#173 |
| -
WTF |
XemaSab |
Jul-08-05 06:43 PM |
#181 |
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