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Mon Jul-04-05 10:12 AM
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Couldn't the first SCOTUS justice position open under the George W. Bush II Regime, the person never elected, the person who never passed a law that helped any American (other than the top 1%), the person never nominates decent cabinet members or justices, a person who can bearly figure out how his trike works, constitute extraordinary circumstances? Part of me wants to add sarcasm to this post, but another part of me is dead serious. Could this be a time to raise the competency of the person making this critical decision? That's definintely an extraordinary situation.
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| -Filibuster deal could thwart efforts to nix conservative Supreme nominee |
MelissaB |
Jul-03-05 09:45 PM |
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BS!! |
ixion |
Jul-03-05 09:48 PM |
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What's the point of this deal, if extraodinary circumstances NEVER happen? |
calipendence |
Jul-03-05 10:22 PM |
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The "Deal" was "NO DEAL for America" |
Born Free |
Jul-04-05 05:05 AM |
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One correction (imho) |
pokercat999 |
Jul-04-05 07:01 AM |
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When this so-called "Deal" was forged I immediately called BS on the Dems |
Pachamama |
Jul-04-05 01:10 PM |
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Extraordinary circumstances do happen |
ikojo |
Jul-04-05 09:01 AM |
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The point was to get their judges and 'fuck the democrats' |
spanone |
Jul-04-05 09:21 AM |
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I never liked the McCain/Reid deal. |
jurassicpork |
Jul-04-05 01:55 PM |
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Here's the hook |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Jul-04-05 02:49 PM |
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Uh, it's dead girl or live boy |
Eloriel |
Jul-05-05 08:43 AM |
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Times have changed |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Jul-05-05 09:33 AM |
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Clintonista Centrists Just Don't Have Spines to Stand Up for Anything |
GoreDean2008 |
Jul-04-05 11:07 AM |
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Nice deal. |
Gloria |
Jul-03-05 09:49 PM |
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Filibuster Deal Puts Democrats In a Bind |
cal04 |
Jul-03-05 10:18 PM |
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this is contrary to other reports that "extraordinary circumstances" were |
spooky3 |
Jul-04-05 04:57 AM |
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EXACTLY. |
Skinner |
Jul-04-05 08:49 AM |
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yep, they're merely settin' the stage... |
JRob |
Jul-04-05 07:25 PM |
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Check Janice Brown |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Jul-04-05 02:56 PM |
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What a bunch of crap. |
Skinner |
Jul-04-05 08:48 AM |
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unless you get to the extreme of either side |
Toots |
Jul-04-05 08:58 AM |
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I read it the same way, Skinner |
wryter2000 |
Jul-04-05 09:34 AM |
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...it's right behind his Platinum American Express card. |
JRob |
Jul-04-05 07:29 PM |
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Don't have the text, but if memory serves me, the purposeful vagueness of |
Pachamama |
Jul-04-05 01:26 PM |
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Why not? |
jurassicpork |
Jul-04-05 02:10 PM |
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Oh really? They held a vote and the GOP said no? Are you certain? |
Pachamama |
Jul-04-05 07:45 PM |
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You're EXACTLY RIGHT re Gonzalez -- READ THIS, people |
Eloriel |
Jul-05-05 10:03 AM |
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Ruse....that's the word I was looking for.... |
Pachamama |
Jul-06-05 12:33 AM |
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You're overlooking the precedent that was created |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Jul-04-05 02:55 PM |
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This is what I have believed & feared...and knowing one of our DU Legal |
Pachamama |
Jul-04-05 07:53 PM |
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It creates no precedent. A political compromise to allow votes |
spooky3 |
Jul-05-05 03:58 PM |
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The problem is that Biden doesn't speak for the 14 |
enough already |
Jul-05-05 06:42 AM |
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Hey, Skinner, I sent a tip to MediaMatters.org--check this out: |
spooky3 |
Jul-05-05 03:56 PM |
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That deal allowed us to fight another day, so let's fight them |
Strawman |
Jul-05-05 11:00 AM |
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Is this deal |
Mz Pip |
Jul-03-05 10:24 PM |
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Isn't this called a double-cross? What the hell good was this "deal"? |
confludemocrat |
Jul-03-05 10:49 PM |
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what if they just renominate one of the judges from the deal? |
pocket |
Jul-03-05 11:10 PM |
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I'd say "lack of experience" could be an extreme circumstance |
orangepeel68 |
Jul-04-05 12:00 PM |
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Supreme court is a vastly more important position. |
dmordue |
Jul-04-05 02:08 PM |
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I would suggest |
MadisonProgressive |
Jul-03-05 11:20 PM |
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Thank you Ben Nelson |
CityDem |
Jul-03-05 11:22 PM |
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That accusation is unfair |
ElTexican |
Jul-04-05 04:12 AM |
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Welcome to DU, Texican |
wryter2000 |
Jul-04-05 09:35 AM |
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Your number 2 is some nice spin |
Emerson |
Jul-04-05 04:35 PM |
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I agree |
depakid |
Jul-04-05 03:32 PM |
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Any REPRESENTATIVE who plays along with this sham |
Malikshah |
Jul-03-05 11:23 PM |
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So throw out the deal |
high density |
Jul-03-05 11:26 PM |
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agreed |
upoceg |
Jul-04-05 01:46 PM |
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Exactly |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Jul-04-05 02:59 PM |
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Yes clinton did fine |
Emerson |
Jul-04-05 04:38 PM |
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So since only Republicans have superior ethics and character |
pinkpops |
Jul-03-05 11:34 PM |
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Sure was a great deal ... |
ngGale |
Jul-03-05 11:35 PM |
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Unfortunately, even Reid has suggested pro-life nominees ... |
ElTexican |
Jul-04-05 04:10 AM |
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Interesting terminology you use |
Emerson |
Jul-04-05 04:43 PM |
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I asked my friend Pete. His response was wavy lines coming out of his head |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Jul-05-05 11:10 AM |
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What were they thinking? |
BooScout |
Jul-04-05 06:18 AM |
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Since when did being fair and honest come into it? |
goclark |
Jul-04-05 07:15 AM |
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Cow pies! Here's a link to the text of the so-called deal: |
struggle4progress |
Jul-04-05 08:50 AM |
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THANK YOU! |
Skinner |
Jul-04-05 09:05 AM |
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Yeah, that's key: "each signatory must use his or her own discretion..." |
confludemocrat |
Jul-04-05 02:07 PM |
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This is why I don't let my emotions... |
Andromeda |
Jul-05-05 04:59 AM |
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No false conclusions here... |
mirrera |
Jul-05-05 07:58 AM |
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This article also shows some infighting that may occur |
Carla in Ca |
Jul-04-05 05:00 PM |
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Simple answer |
CoolOnion |
Jul-04-05 09:16 AM |
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"...we don't need no steeenkin deals" |
marty13 |
Jul-04-05 09:30 AM |
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Hi, Marty! |
wryter2000 |
Jul-04-05 09:37 AM |
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It'll be interesting to see who he picks |
CoolOnion |
Jul-04-05 09:44 AM |
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Welcome to DU, Marty 13! |
rocknation |
Jul-04-05 09:50 AM |
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Welcome to DU Marty13. |
Chipper Chat |
Jul-04-05 01:46 PM |
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Hmmm |
wryter2000 |
Jul-04-05 09:30 AM |
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The Republican spin kickoff.... |
Neecy |
Jul-04-05 09:34 AM |
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Exactly--the Washington Post article is by STENO SUE SCHMIDT |
pacoyogi |
Jul-04-05 12:20 PM |
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Whatever. |
scdusek |
Jul-04-05 09:36 AM |
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Welcome to DU |
wryter2000 |
Jul-04-05 09:38 AM |
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An interesting issue--property rights |
CoolOnion |
Jul-04-05 10:03 AM |
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I'd say taking away more of my rights constitutes |
yy4me |
Jul-04-05 09:37 AM |
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When Owen and Brown were part of this deal |
adigal |
Jul-04-05 09:41 AM |
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You should know a pre-emptive strike when you see one by now |
rocknation |
Jul-04-05 09:42 AM |
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You are sooooo right--this article is |
pacoyogi |
Jul-04-05 12:23 PM |
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Agree, contentless speculation; bad journalsim, were used to it (n/t) |
confludemocrat |
Jul-04-05 02:12 PM |
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Yep, the deal is turning out to be the 'no-win-no-way rollover and kiss |
acmavm |
Jul-04-05 09:46 AM |
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Gonzalez would qualify as "extra-ordinary circumstances" |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Jul-04-05 09:54 AM |
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Gonzales has been declared a "no-go" by the religious right.... |
Olney Blue |
Jul-04-05 11:19 AM |
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if the dems had stood their ground without this giveaway |
ooglymoogly |
Jul-04-05 09:57 AM |
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Dumb question here. |
Proud_Lefty |
Jul-04-05 10:12 AM |
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Not a dumb question Proud Lefty! Very good question indeed! |
Pachamama |
Jul-04-05 01:33 PM |
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Thanks |
Proud_Lefty |
Jul-04-05 01:39 PM |
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WWFD? |
jurassicpork |
Jul-04-05 02:13 PM |
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Hard to address this without sarcasm |
Proud_Lefty |
Jul-04-05 02:55 PM |
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Of course if the nuclear option was inacted... |
dmordue |
Jul-04-05 10:14 AM |
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IF...? What is different? |
mirrera |
Jul-05-05 08:30 AM |
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If Dubya names a rightwing ideologue to replace O'Connor ... |
damntexdem |
Jul-04-05 10:37 AM |
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fuck 'em |
woosh |
Jul-04-05 10:50 AM |
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Would they actually pay though???? |
HannibalBarca |
Jul-04-05 02:29 PM |
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I hate the 14 |
adarling |
Jul-04-05 10:59 AM |
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What happens if they outlaw the fillibuster as threatened. |
dmordue |
Jul-04-05 11:28 AM |
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i feel like they are going to try and do it anyways |
adarling |
Jul-04-05 12:36 PM |
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I agree..if they don't think about the future, they get what they deserve! |
drmom |
Jul-04-05 07:34 PM |
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America then hopefully wakes up & sees the GOP as what they really are? |
Pachamama |
Jul-04-05 01:36 PM |
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What would happen w/o the filibuster? |
jurassicpork |
Jul-04-05 02:17 PM |
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i know, isn't it great? |
adarling |
Jul-05-05 03:03 PM |
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Andrew |
jurassicpork |
Jul-05-05 03:50 PM |
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thank you |
adarling |
Jul-05-05 04:52 PM |
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Why can't the Dems come out with spin like this? |
gulliver |
Jul-04-05 11:36 AM |
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Sold out again by our “leadership,” corrupt or inane? |
FreeStateDemocrat |
Jul-04-05 12:27 PM |
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Fascists are naturally better at propoganda! (n/m) |
Knight of Ni |
Jul-04-05 12:42 PM |
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By definition, a supreme court appointment is "extraordinary." |
tedoll78 |
Jul-04-05 11:53 AM |
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WHITE HOUSE SPIN TO DISCOURAGE REPUB. MODERATES---- |
pacoyogi |
Jul-04-05 12:30 PM |
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Christ. What a bunch of dewy-eyed innocents. I said the deal was bad |
Pryderi |
Jul-04-05 12:30 PM |
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You are playing into the Republican spin machine. |
pacoyogi |
Jul-04-05 12:33 PM |
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That's what I thought when I saw it...consider the source, but do we |
MelissaB |
Jul-04-05 12:49 PM |
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We don't ignore it, but I think the response is to do what Skinner |
pacoyogi |
Jul-04-05 12:58 PM |
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This is nuts!!! |
wake.up.america |
Jul-04-05 01:20 PM |
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I was against the deal but it is likely they discussed future SC nominees |
confludemocrat |
Jul-04-05 02:23 PM |
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fuck 'em both... whatever happens they win! |
JRob |
Jul-04-05 07:54 PM |
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Didn't preserve much |
CityDem |
Jul-04-05 03:19 PM |
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exactly! and what did we get in the "deal"? the right of a reach-around? |
JRob |
Jul-04-05 07:57 PM |
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The analysis of what actually happened |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Jul-04-05 04:57 PM |
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So will Gorgie pick a Judge or pick a Fight??? |
Fla4kerry |
Jul-04-05 05:30 PM |
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thank you, thank you, thank you! |
JRob |
Jul-04-05 08:01 PM |
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As in "Gonzales," maybe... |
AuntiBush |
Jul-04-05 07:41 PM |
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The Democrats Need to Define "extaordinary circumstances" |
spanone |
Jul-04-05 07:48 PM |
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Too late. They have already effectively pounced. |
The Stranger |
Jul-05-05 08:56 AM |
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Argh!!!! |
muchacho |
Jul-05-05 07:00 AM |
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We were all screaming about this when it happened, |
mirrera |
Jul-05-05 07:17 AM |
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Come on, people. That is an EASY one. |
The Stranger |
Jul-05-05 08:55 AM |
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If the nominee is a rightwing |
mmonk |
Jul-05-05 05:12 PM |
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You are a democrat of good moral character unlike some who are elected |
FreeStateDemocrat |
Jul-05-05 06:05 PM |
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Heh. Please try to be less shocked... |
Voltaire99 |
Jul-06-05 12:00 AM |
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If you make a deal with the Devil... |
MojoXN |
Jul-06-05 10:06 AM |
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The so-called "deal" |
Hardknock |
Jul-06-05 02:01 PM |
#130 |
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