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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 06:49 PM
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10. If You Think This is Outrageous, Try Going to the UK
I traveled outside of our country for the first time a month ago, and in London and elsewhere encountered trains, both subway and long distance, that were only accessible by at least one flight of stairs. I saw an old woman handling the stairs at Waterloo station using her walker and couldn't believe my eyes.

Amtrak, like most other public spaces and entities, has worked to make its services usable by people with disabilities/challenges/what have you that only 20-30 years ago made traveling out of their homes difficult if not outright impossible.

The people going to do the lobbying need the transportation, but any need they have to sit together is either for psychological comfort or conferencing, and Amtrak is not required to provide for either.
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  -Judge: Amtrak Can Charge Disabled Extra Rose Siding  Jun-22-05 05:35 PM   #0 
  - Steal pensions, now extort people who've been disabled. Vets not excluded?  HypnoToad   Jun-22-05 05:36 PM   #1 
  - how does it cost $200 to remove a seat?  Endangered Specie   Jun-22-05 05:41 PM   #2 
  - Well that may well be someone's agenda  LisaM   Jun-22-05 05:45 PM   #3 
     - its not an excuse...  Endangered Specie   Jun-22-05 05:53 PM   #4 
        - Well I just can't see it in that black and white a fashion  LisaM   Jun-22-05 06:33 PM   #8 
  - Well I will agree with the Judge in this case.  wakeme2008   Jun-22-05 06:25 PM   #5 
  - ...  oscar111   Jun-23-05 08:19 AM   #36 
  - You've got to be kidding me!  David Zephyr   Jun-22-05 06:25 PM   #6 
  - Just because they CAN  annabanana   Jun-22-05 06:29 PM   #7 
  - Way to go, Amtrak! Drive away regular repeat business!  KamaAina   Jun-22-05 06:40 PM   #9 
  - Actually, it doesn't sound as if they don't have enough seats  LisaM   Jun-22-05 06:51 PM   #11 
     - In this instance, they *want* to be in the same car  KamaAina   Jun-22-05 06:56 PM   #12 
        - I think Amtrak is right to charge this  wakeme2008   Jun-22-05 07:02 PM   #14 
        - Paraplegics might be able to transfer to a standard seat, but  KamaAina   Jun-22-05 07:12 PM   #15 
        - And where would they store their wheelchairs  Pastiche423   Jun-22-05 08:13 PM   #19 
           - Amtrak would store them  wakeme2008   Jun-22-05 08:22 PM   #20 
              - Don't know jack shit about wheelchairs  Pastiche423   Jun-22-05 08:27 PM   #21 
                 - yes they fold up and can be stored... nt  wakeme2008   Jun-22-05 08:34 PM   #24 
                    - A rigid manual wheelchair  Pastiche423   Jun-22-05 08:54 PM   #27 
                       - A powerchair yes but most that do not need a powerchair  wakeme2008   Jun-22-05 09:02 PM   #28 
                          - Bullshit  Pastiche423   Jun-22-05 09:14 PM   #29 
                             - I think you have a problem  wakeme2008   Jun-22-05 09:20 PM   #31 
                                - I have no problem  Pastiche423   Jun-22-05 10:01 PM   #32 
                                   - Well some ppl in wheelchairs have friends or relatives that  wakeme2008   Jun-23-05 04:42 AM   #34 
        - Have you another story link on this? I don't see anything in this one  djmaddox1   Jun-22-05 07:43 PM   #18 
        - Due to wrecks and lack of funds  mahatmakanejeeves   Jun-22-05 11:14 PM   #33 
  - If You Think This is Outrageous, Try Going to the UK  Crisco   Jun-22-05 06:49 PM   #10 
  - I was in one subway stop in London with an escalator and it did not work  wakeme2008   Jun-22-05 07:18 PM   #16 
  - Aye, What a Pain  Crisco   Jun-22-05 08:31 PM   #23 
     - Right,,, only one escalator not two like in the US  wakeme2008   Jun-22-05 08:50 PM   #26 
  - If the train only has room for 2 wheelchairs in each car,  Rose Siding   Jun-22-05 07:36 PM   #17 
     - That Is a Possibility  Crisco   Jun-22-05 08:30 PM   #22 
  - Can't they just sit at the back of the train. :-( nt  VegasWolf   Jun-22-05 06:59 PM   #13 
  - What about the Americans With Disabilities Act?!  Raiden   Jun-22-05 08:44 PM   #25 
  - Lets apply this to Black people?  jsamuel   Jun-22-05 09:20 PM   #30 
  - disabled should get some respect and help  oscar111   Jun-23-05 08:15 AM   #35 
  - Gee, that oughta save the commuter rail industry.  gtar100   Jun-23-05 08:21 AM   #37 
 

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