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Mon Jun-20-05 11:08 AM
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Yes, we need to boost the minimum wage to something that isn't a joke. That's one prong.
The other prong is, use one fiftieth the time, energy, and rhetoric to go after those who willingly hire undocumented workers. Haul a half-dozen well-dressed, well-coiffed white owners of landscaping firms or construction companies off to do hard labor, and you'd be amazed at how quickly others would fall into line.
Neither one is going to happen because it'd upset the "ownership society" Chimpy McFuckstain wants to impose upon us, of course.
"Seal the borders," my ass.
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| -'IT IS OUT OF CONTROL': Ranchers call for action |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-20-05 03:36 AM |
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I thought this was going to be about Mad Cow Disease. . . |
Journeyman |
Jun-20-05 03:46 AM |
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Heh heh -- their hoods are coming off..... |
Senior citizen |
Jun-20-05 03:58 AM |
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I live in TX, and these illegals are hurting us a lot |
losdiablosgato |
Jun-20-05 08:25 AM |
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That's what they said about blacks too. So WE hire them but it's THEIR |
leesa |
Jun-20-05 08:49 AM |
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The difference is that African Americans are American Citizens |
losdiablosgato |
Jun-20-05 08:57 AM |
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HA, HA, HA |
maxrandb |
Jun-20-05 09:38 AM |
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so the use of exploitative |
northzax |
Jun-20-05 10:40 AM |
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Of Course It Bothers Me. |
maxrandb |
Jun-20-05 11:47 AM |
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hmm, organized labor is a right wing talking point? |
northzax |
Jun-20-05 12:38 PM |
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And Just Who Do You Think is Going to Fight for the |
maxrandb |
Jun-20-05 01:07 PM |
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Yes, exploitative labor practices bother those of us that are against |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Jun-20-05 12:09 PM |
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I sympathize |
Mizmoon |
Jun-20-05 08:51 AM |
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I'm a northerner and we have problems brewing here, too |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-20-05 11:59 AM |
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So--the problem is not illegal immigration, but Foreigners. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-20-05 12:24 PM |
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No racism or xenophobia here |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-20-05 01:22 PM |
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Your statement about un-American business owners gave me the clue. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-20-05 01:59 PM |
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And why are YOU so biased? hmmmm? |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-20-05 02:12 PM |
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First, please explain this statement: |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-20-05 02:25 PM |
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Longbranch Saloon now a quinceanera dress shop |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-20-05 03:16 PM |
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Diversity is also a part of our American culture |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-05 07:18 PM |
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gee, thanks for dusting off that old buzz word. |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-20-05 07:53 PM |
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You nailed it |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-05 09:18 PM |
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As one who has lived in one of the most liberal cities in the US |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-20-05 09:39 PM |
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So what are you trying to say? |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-05 10:10 PM |
#125 |
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Hyperbolic & sophomoric response to false premise |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-21-05 08:33 AM |
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I am not on a grandstand |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-05 06:01 PM |
#132 |
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That is all you can say? |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-21-05 07:10 PM |
#133 |
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I see you as the one not being open minded here |
proud2Blib |
Jun-21-05 07:21 PM |
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I stand up for what I believe in and don't care how many are in my club |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-21-05 07:53 PM |
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Looks like if more all-American drunks had come by, it'd still be |
mbperrin |
Jun-20-05 07:35 PM |
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Actually, the area had gone downhill so badly I can see why tourists |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-20-05 07:51 PM |
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Well, gee, I thought you were the one complaining about the |
mbperrin |
Jun-20-05 07:59 PM |
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Gawd... how irrelevant can you get. |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-20-05 08:05 PM |
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Gee, ironically, you seem to be the one without a grasp of irony... |
mbperrin |
Jun-20-05 08:17 PM |
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eowyn, I know what you're talking about... |
Ilsa |
Jun-20-05 10:14 PM |
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I wish things were good enough in Mexico |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-21-05 05:52 AM |
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Hispanic purchasing power projected to grow to over 900 billion by 2007 |
AlphaCentauri |
Jun-20-05 01:22 PM |
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I understand what you're saying |
Norquist Nemesis |
Jun-20-05 09:20 AM |
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There is a very simple solution to the illegals... |
Javaman |
Jun-20-05 09:46 AM |
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You're halfway there |
bunkerbuster1 |
Jun-20-05 11:08 AM |
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And I bet you live in a fairly nice home too |
WatchWhatISay |
Jun-22-05 02:03 AM |
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Word about these vigilante thugs has gotten out |
Warpy |
Jun-20-05 05:39 AM |
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No, we have plenty to spare up here in DE. |
woodsprite |
Jun-20-05 06:15 AM |
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The price has already skyrocketed with Mexicans picking them. |
Cobalt Violet |
Jun-20-05 06:29 AM |
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I do not understand why the govt. does nothing on this mess. |
izzie |
Jun-20-05 06:05 AM |
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Cheap labor |
davepc |
Jun-20-05 12:36 PM |
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I live in AZ, and I've got news 4 u... |
greyhound1966 |
Jun-20-05 02:05 PM |
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If Democrats were true to our labor roots |
davepc |
Jun-20-05 02:11 PM |
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Union cabinet makers at my husband's company are paid BIG bucks |
SoCalDem |
Jun-20-05 03:10 PM |
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Too bad the National Guard is over in Iraq. |
Sentinel Chicken |
Jun-20-05 06:38 AM |
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We should get something more back other than lower wages. |
Cobalt Violet |
Jun-20-05 06:40 AM |
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The ranchers in the Valley use illegal labor constantly & consistently... |
elehhhhna |
Jun-20-05 07:22 AM |
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Yeah. Throw some of the "illegal bosses" in jail for a while. |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-20-05 08:46 AM |
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Fred Schuster in the OP is a Vegetable Rancher? |
elehhhhna |
Jun-20-05 10:32 AM |
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Throw some of the "illegal bosses" in jail for a while." |
TX-RAT |
Jun-20-05 11:21 AM |
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Oh come on |
lastliberalintexas |
Jun-20-05 12:13 PM |
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We all know who is hiring them. |
TX-RAT |
Jun-20-05 01:06 PM |
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That's not hearsay, by the way |
lastliberalintexas |
Jun-20-05 01:31 PM |
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I wonder how |
FlaGranny |
Jun-20-05 08:22 AM |
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Exactly! It is the people SMUGGLERS not the people! |
davsand |
Jun-20-05 10:50 AM |
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we need to build a 40ft high wall from the rio grande to the pacific ocean |
kodi |
Jun-20-05 08:43 AM |
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What a dumb ass thing to say. How about the people who hire them? |
leesa |
Jun-20-05 08:51 AM |
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Jun-20-05 09:24 AM |
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nope, he's got it right. |
bunkerbuster1 |
Jun-20-05 11:10 AM |
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Great idea |
TX-RAT |
Jun-20-05 11:14 AM |
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Are you going to just raid company's and check for illegals? |
Sterling |
Jun-20-05 11:56 AM |
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Why not start holding fat cats accountable? |
TX-RAT |
Jun-20-05 12:50 PM |
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That's exactly how the INS does it here. |
greyhound1966 |
Jun-20-05 06:52 PM |
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Easy. Tail a few contractors picking up day laborers. |
bunkerbuster1 |
Jun-20-05 12:11 PM |
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Jun-20-05 12:41 PM |
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That is a Cheap Shot |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-20-05 10:40 AM |
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Yeah, I get sick and tired of hearing "racist" |
Megahurtz |
Jun-20-05 11:20 AM |
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Race has everything to do with this issue. |
Kraklen |
Jun-20-05 05:07 PM |
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No, it is not racism. Shame on you for saying so. |
MrTriumph |
Jun-20-05 05:11 PM |
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ditto |
barb162 |
Jun-20-05 12:03 PM |
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What I want to know |
Orangeone |
Jun-20-05 09:01 AM |
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It's not suddenly an issue. |
igil |
Jun-20-05 11:28 AM |
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There's more than just the fields though, |
Megahurtz |
Jun-20-05 05:52 PM |
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There would be no "illegal alien problem" if people didn't hire |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Jun-20-05 09:26 AM |
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The reality is: People will continue to hire illegals. |
Javaman |
Jun-20-05 09:57 AM |
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There would be no illegal aliens, without borders. |
Gregorian |
Jun-20-05 09:47 AM |
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So, a quick question. |
igil |
Jun-20-05 11:29 AM |
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Borders are real, sorry. |
Shadder |
Jun-20-05 11:35 AM |
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"brown" people? "white" people? Aren't we all coffee tones? |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-20-05 12:09 PM |
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That was my point. We're all the same. |
Gregorian |
Jun-20-05 12:24 PM |
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Sounded like you were making this a racial issue |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-20-05 12:47 PM |
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"Without borders...[w]e wouldn't be in Iraq." |
sadiesworld |
Jun-20-05 12:30 PM |
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So is our economy expanding so much ... |
SujiwanKenobee |
Jun-20-05 11:15 AM |
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Bush loves illegal immigrants... If he didn't, borders would had been |
Rainscents |
Jun-20-05 11:57 AM |
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Simple understanding |
oneold1-4u |
Jun-20-05 12:02 PM |
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"Pay no taxes" ??? |
Bridget Burke |
Jun-20-05 12:20 PM |
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I learned from "Leave it to Beaver" that when everyone is white |
4_Legs_Good |
Jun-20-05 01:49 PM |
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They LOVE us for our FREEDOMS! That's why they came to destroy |
fob |
Jun-20-05 12:26 PM |
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Don't hire them. They won't come. |
Miss Chybil |
Jun-20-05 12:28 PM |
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okay rancieros, if you give up your multibillion subsidies and |
MisterP |
Jun-20-05 01:10 PM |
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Abso-freakin-lutely! |
greyhound1966 |
Jun-20-05 06:48 PM |
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I didn't expect to see so many hoods come off right here. |
Senior citizen |
Jun-20-05 01:19 PM |
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Great post! |
4_Legs_Good |
Jun-20-05 01:38 PM |
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That's wonderful for you, but |
Megahurtz |
Jun-20-05 06:01 PM |
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Is it racism or is it lack of understanding? |
davsand |
Jun-20-05 01:47 PM |
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you're comparing people who come here of their own free will |
davepc |
Jun-20-05 02:03 PM |
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Well, davepc, you took it WAY further than I intended... |
davsand |
Jun-20-05 02:26 PM |
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We also have destroyed the only income for Mexican farmers |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-20-05 02:51 PM |
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How did we draw that border anyway? |
Senior citizen |
Jun-20-05 02:10 PM |
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Sure did |
davepc |
Jun-20-05 02:14 PM |
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Mexicans have a place in our history |
AlphaCentauri |
Jun-20-05 02:30 PM |
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Thank you, AlphaCentauri. Good link and good post. |
Senior citizen |
Jun-20-05 05:02 PM |
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An important point from that article: |
proud2Blib |
Jun-20-05 07:30 PM |
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Yep! They will never draw it, and they will always pay it! |
mbperrin |
Jun-20-05 07:34 PM |
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The hoods come off-Great phrase!-and they call themselves"progressive"? |
NIGHT TRIPPER |
Jun-20-05 02:37 PM |
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"peta protects the animals which are part of the "environment"" |
NoKillShelterGuy |
Jun-21-05 07:54 PM |
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get over and read that DU post regarding that- and kiss off you idiot |
NIGHT TRIPPER |
Jun-22-05 01:18 AM |
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Congratulations! |
greyhound1966 |
Jun-20-05 02:56 PM |
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I'm pre-boomer, greyhound. |
Senior citizen |
Jun-20-05 04:34 PM |
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First, let me apologize for the generational... |
greyhound1966 |
Jun-20-05 05:57 PM |
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Great post. |
eowyn_of_rohan |
Jun-20-05 04:52 PM |
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Wow- "the cesspools to the south", huh? |
lastliberalintexas |
Jun-20-05 04:53 PM |
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blah, blah, blah... |
greyhound1966 |
Jun-20-05 06:26 PM |
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America would be better able to take care of Americans |
lastliberalintexas |
Jun-20-05 06:49 PM |
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Did you even read the post? |
greyhound1966 |
Jun-20-05 07:07 PM |
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"theft of our heritage" "coming up from the cesspool" |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jun-20-05 05:55 PM |
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probably more than you do. |
greyhound1966 |
Jun-20-05 06:41 PM |
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The original concept of America? |
SemiCharmedQuark |
Jun-20-05 08:32 PM |
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The Minutemen are the KKK pure and simple with a new modicum of lynching |
nothingshocksmeanymore |
Jun-21-05 12:44 AM |
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Not only that, but people who call the INS... |
NoKillShelterGuy |
Jun-21-05 07:56 PM |
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Absolutely great post. Thanks for taking the time to write it. n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-20-05 03:00 PM |
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great job of telling only half the story |
DeaconBlues |
Jun-20-05 07:45 PM |
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I don't understand why people think the Govt. wants to stop |
luvLLB |
Jun-20-05 02:13 PM |
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It's a scar not a border |
sintax |
Jun-20-05 02:31 PM |
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check these articles out, it appears you don't know the origins... |
greyhound1966 |
Jun-20-05 03:02 PM |
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"This issue has nothing to do with tolerance" but misguided history class |
AlphaCentauri |
Jun-20-05 07:03 PM |
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I understand |
sintax |
Jun-23-05 10:52 AM |
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Yeah! It's "Tha Man".... |
NoKillShelterGuy |
Jun-21-05 07:57 PM |
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The root cause of the Latino (NOT just Mexicans) immigration |
Pharlo |
Jun-20-05 05:54 PM |
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Thanks--I forgot Nicaragua! |
Senior citizen |
Jun-20-05 06:49 PM |
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It should be pointed out, again:American agriculture has destroyed |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-20-05 06:06 PM |
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Hear, Hear... |
greyhound1966 |
Jun-20-05 07:14 PM |
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What I want for my children |
AlphaCentauri |
Jun-20-05 07:52 PM |
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are you an immigrant? |
NIGHT TRIPPER |
Jun-20-05 09:25 PM |
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amazing |
alfred e bush |
Jun-21-05 06:04 AM |
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No doubt there....... |
Judi Lynn |
Jun-21-05 06:15 AM |
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I like Simcox's possessed red eyes--or maybe "Azrael"'s? |
MisterP |
Jun-21-05 07:13 PM |
#134 |
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