| 27. What about the issue of undetected problems because |
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women and babies are released too early from the hospital?
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| -Childbirth at Home as Safe as Hospital Delivery: Study |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 05:58 AM |
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In other words, home delivery = money saved by insurance companies. |
patricia92243 |
Jun-17-05 06:01 AM |
#1 |
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Perhaps. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 06:04 AM |
#2 |
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Unless you have a complication in delivery. e/o/m |
Skwmom |
Jun-17-05 08:22 AM |
#15 |
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Wrong. -- Did you read the article? |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 08:59 AM |
#21 |
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Yes. |
Skwmom |
Jun-17-05 09:04 AM |
#25 |
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Again, that's not what the research shows. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 09:10 AM |
#29 |
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The safety of the child is not compromised? |
Skwmom |
Jun-17-05 11:00 AM |
#58 |
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In other words, why do research? |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 11:20 AM |
#61 |
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One thing to consider is that deliveries handled by CNM/CMs |
AllyCat |
Jun-20-05 10:28 AM |
#168 |
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Maternal deaths |
Scairp |
Jun-17-05 04:29 PM |
#124 |
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Yeah, it's crap. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 04:32 PM |
#125 |
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Infection and poor prenatal care are the root cause of much |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 05:16 PM |
#130 |
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Hospitals are safer? |
athenap |
Jun-17-05 05:50 PM |
#137 |
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Infections...that reminded me of this article in my local paper last week. |
oblivious |
Jun-17-05 06:40 PM |
#148 |
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That was my first thought exactly. n/t |
Cobalt Violet |
Jun-17-05 06:17 AM |
#4 |
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Got it in one. |
Caution |
Jun-17-05 06:41 AM |
#8 |
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Wow! Talk about a broad brush! |
meganmonkey |
Jun-17-05 06:49 AM |
#9 |
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exactly |
shanti |
Jun-17-05 01:07 PM |
#85 |
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I don't think you know how much training it takes to be a |
Ilsa |
Jun-17-05 08:13 AM |
#14 |
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Hmm. Then why aren't you following the actual science? |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 09:26 AM |
#34 |
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I'd never choose a home birth for myself |
missb |
Jun-17-05 11:36 AM |
#64 |
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Thanks for sharing. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 11:41 AM |
#65 |
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I ask that you please conduct a little research before you slam an |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 12:23 PM |
#71 |
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thank you for mentioning ina may gaskin |
shanti |
Jun-17-05 01:10 PM |
#87 |
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her new one was published in 2003, it's even better! |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 01:15 PM |
#90 |
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yes, the farm! |
shanti |
Jun-17-05 01:36 PM |
#99 |
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hi there! |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 02:27 PM |
#103 |
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your hubris is breathtaking |
shanti |
Jun-17-05 01:05 PM |
#84 |
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Wrong! You are so wrong. |
PunkPop |
Jun-17-05 01:28 PM |
#95 |
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the more times I read this awful post, the madder I get. |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 05:52 PM |
#138 |
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I wondered the same thing. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 10:34 PM |
#155 |
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Don't knock it until you've tried it |
SemperEadem |
Jun-20-05 06:00 PM |
#172 |
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Wow. I would suggest you do a little research |
Ms. Toad |
Jun-17-05 07:27 AM |
#10 |
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no. |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 12:27 PM |
#72 |
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Indeed. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 12:32 PM |
#75 |
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crazy isnt' it? |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 12:52 PM |
#81 |
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Thanks. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 04:49 PM |
#128 |
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They will cover pre natal care... |
Ms. Toad |
Jun-17-05 02:09 PM |
#102 |
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Most midwives give the prenatal care themselves. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 04:22 PM |
#119 |
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Unfortunately, not everywhere is that enlightened. |
Ms. Toad |
Jun-17-05 10:17 PM |
#152 |
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Yeah, I sometimes forget just how good we've got it out here in the west. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 10:30 PM |
#154 |
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Frankly, after giving birth twice those midwives better arrive at |
merbex |
Jun-17-05 06:06 AM |
#3 |
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no to the Drugs.... |
wakeme2008 |
Jun-17-05 06:20 AM |
#5 |
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unmedicated birth in the hospital is usually described as much |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 12:31 PM |
#74 |
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Did they know that the mother was going to have twins? |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 12:35 PM |
#78 |
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yep! |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 01:13 PM |
#88 |
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wow |
shanti |
Jun-17-05 01:17 PM |
#91 |
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I'd have to pull out some books, but I remeber reading that |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 01:22 PM |
#92 |
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lol, i was just the opposite |
shanti |
Jun-17-05 01:15 PM |
#89 |
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Duh |
tavalon |
Jun-17-05 06:33 AM |
#6 |
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I was born at home. |
Archae |
Jun-17-05 06:38 AM |
#7 |
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planned or accidental? |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 01:31 PM |
#97 |
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Planned. |
Archae |
Jun-17-05 02:44 PM |
#104 |
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what an awesome mom you have! |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 02:47 PM |
#106 |
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So did Denver... |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Jun-20-05 05:49 PM |
#171 |
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I was probably not "low risk" |
UpInArms |
Jun-17-05 07:32 AM |
#11 |
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Hospital "birthing rooms" are a reasonable compromise |
Maeve |
Jun-17-05 08:49 AM |
#19 |
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although I went to a small hospital |
UpInArms |
Jun-17-05 08:57 AM |
#20 |
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Great post. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 09:19 AM |
#32 |
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Great options - BUT... |
Ms. Toad |
Jun-17-05 10:30 PM |
#153 |
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What was the NUMBER ONE KILLER OF WOMEN about 100 years ago |
bleedingheart |
Jun-17-05 07:41 AM |
#12 |
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Did you read the article? |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 09:00 AM |
#22 |
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yes and to be honest I am very much against promoting this for everyone |
bleedingheart |
Jun-17-05 09:36 AM |
#36 |
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The necessary tests are done. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 09:39 AM |
#37 |
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Midwives are trained in infant cpr and bring O2 to every birth. |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 12:35 PM |
#77 |
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Anyone opposed to home birth should read |
gollygee |
Jun-17-05 01:24 PM |
#93 |
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and A Good Birth, A Safe Birth, by Korte and Scaer...and |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 01:28 PM |
#96 |
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Oh did I put that as a reply to your post? |
gollygee |
Jun-17-05 01:38 PM |
#100 |
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I don't think people are promoting homebirth as right for everyone |
conflictgirl |
Jun-21-05 12:42 AM |
#179 |
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INFECTION |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 12:41 PM |
#79 |
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I had all the appearances of low risk... |
bleedingheart |
Jun-17-05 03:21 PM |
#113 |
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I cannot comment on your situation, but research shows that |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 05:23 PM |
#131 |
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Most deaths were due to infections. |
SarahBelle |
Jun-22-05 05:24 PM |
#185 |
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Death during childbirth was also due to infection because there |
Ilsa |
Jun-17-05 08:00 AM |
#13 |
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I find it odd that something so natural is treated like a major emergency. |
BiggJawn |
Jun-17-05 08:28 AM |
#16 |
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Exactly. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 09:02 AM |
#24 |
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Because Eve ate the apple |
Danmel |
Jun-17-05 11:24 AM |
#62 |
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Indeed. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 11:26 AM |
#63 |
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I thought Eve's apple gave us mensturation? |
BiggJawn |
Jun-17-05 04:28 PM |
#123 |
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Humans do not because of our large heads and |
shimmergal |
Jun-20-05 11:27 PM |
#178 |
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There was a good natural history programme on British TV recently |
muriel_volestrangler |
Jun-17-05 03:09 PM |
#109 |
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Kudos on a great post, and an amazing father! |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 05:25 PM |
#132 |
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So true.....and this is something I resisted when I was pregnant. |
DemExpat |
Jun-17-05 05:58 PM |
#140 |
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it is safer emotionally, spiritually and mentally for all couples. |
genevat |
Jun-17-05 08:29 AM |
#17 |
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I had three children at home |
gate of the sun |
Jun-17-05 08:29 AM |
#18 |
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The article focuses on Low-Risk groups, but |
Kittycat |
Jun-17-05 09:02 AM |
#23 |
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I don't know any midwife who would have done that. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 09:07 AM |
#26 |
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Believe it or not... |
Kittycat |
Jun-17-05 09:24 AM |
#33 |
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Sounds like a truly bizarre case, all the way around. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 09:30 AM |
#35 |
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my first got stuck in the birth canal...and luckily the hospital had a |
bleedingheart |
Jun-17-05 10:14 AM |
#43 |
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I don't know the details of your case. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 10:23 AM |
#48 |
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I had atypical pre-eclampsia |
bleedingheart |
Jun-17-05 10:40 AM |
#55 |
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What about the issue of undetected problems because |
Skwmom |
Jun-17-05 09:07 AM |
#27 |
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Most midwives follow-up with home visits for three days in a row, |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 09:14 AM |
#30 |
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Kinda depends on the qualifications of the practitioner |
triguy46 |
Jun-17-05 03:51 PM |
#117 |
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? |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 04:23 PM |
#120 |
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I was born at my grandmother's house |
ninkasi |
Jun-17-05 09:08 AM |
#28 |
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I gave birth to my daughter at a birthing suite, |
pacoyogi |
Jun-17-05 09:17 AM |
#31 |
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MORE: Caretakers of Homebirth: Doctors Who Come to You |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 09:48 AM |
#38 |
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Yep, safe, unless you are in the unfortunate 5% of women |
kanrok |
Jun-17-05 09:59 AM |
#39 |
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Thanks for the opinion. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 10:04 AM |
#40 |
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On A Strictly Anecdotal Note: |
jayfish |
Jun-17-05 10:16 AM |
#44 |
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Obviously I don't know the story. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 10:20 AM |
#47 |
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No, These Were Post Delivery Problems. |
jayfish |
Jun-17-05 10:26 AM |
#49 |
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Those do happen in home births. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 10:30 AM |
#50 |
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My Situation Was Just The Opposite. |
jayfish |
Jun-17-05 10:37 AM |
#53 |
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I appreciate it! |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 10:39 AM |
#54 |
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Four weeks ago, I had my daughter at home |
athenap |
Jun-17-05 06:39 PM |
#147 |
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Congratulations, athenap! |
DemExpat |
Jun-17-05 06:47 PM |
#149 |
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It comes from experts in malpractice cases |
kanrok |
Jun-17-05 11:01 AM |
#59 |
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So where are the studies to back up your claim? |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 11:18 AM |
#60 |
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If you want to have your child at home, be my guest |
kanrok |
Jun-17-05 11:44 AM |
#66 |
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Umm. No, your opinion is not based in science. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 11:49 AM |
#67 |
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Hmmm...I read the study |
kanrok |
Jun-17-05 12:28 PM |
#73 |
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I appreciate your open mind, and your explanation regarding lit review. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 12:34 PM |
#76 |
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you have a very open mind, I am impressed and |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 12:59 PM |
#82 |
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Thanks. Will do. |
kanrok |
Jun-17-05 06:03 PM |
#141 |
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anecdotally... |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 12:50 PM |
#80 |
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I hear you. |
kanrok |
Jun-17-05 06:05 PM |
#144 |
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A hospital is no guarantee |
Ayesha |
Jun-17-05 03:49 PM |
#115 |
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You are absolutely correct. |
kanrok |
Jun-17-05 06:04 PM |
#142 |
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As your story demonstrates, incompetence can occur |
GoddessOfGuinness |
Jun-20-05 06:08 PM |
#173 |
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5% failure rate |
shanti |
Jun-17-05 01:27 PM |
#94 |
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I have to go. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 10:09 AM |
#41 |
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I find it odd that with all of our medical advances, |
Ilsa |
Jun-17-05 10:13 AM |
#42 |
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The Netherlands, with 35% of births at home is one. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 10:19 AM |
#45 |
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Yes, I had both of my babies at home here in Holland in the '80s.... |
DemExpat |
Jun-17-05 06:09 PM |
#145 |
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I believe that the infant mortality stats may include more data today |
bleedingheart |
Jun-17-05 10:19 AM |
#46 |
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Very true. The stats may be convoluted |
Ilsa |
Jun-17-05 10:30 AM |
#51 |
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I think it is also are abysmal healthcare system |
bleedingheart |
Jun-17-05 10:32 AM |
#52 |
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BINGO! |
jhain |
Jun-17-05 04:02 PM |
#118 |
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hear hear! |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 05:31 PM |
#134 |
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My first daughter was breech |
HockeyMom |
Jun-17-05 10:46 AM |
#56 |
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What a great doc! |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 10:50 AM |
#57 |
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You don't always know who is low risk |
Danmel |
Jun-17-05 11:58 AM |
#68 |
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You do know who is low risk. |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 12:03 PM |
#69 |
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Long Labor |
athenap |
Jun-17-05 08:48 PM |
#151 |
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LOL! -- Norwegian Princess speaks out on home births -- |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 12:13 PM |
#70 |
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in some cases, safer |
shanti |
Jun-17-05 01:00 PM |
#83 |
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I find it very interesting that those that are in support of home birth |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 01:10 PM |
#86 |
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I totally agree with you! |
Amaya |
Jun-17-05 01:32 PM |
#98 |
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congrats on two happy, healthy births |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 02:51 PM |
#107 |
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It is a personal choice |
Stuckinthebush |
Jun-17-05 01:58 PM |
#101 |
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this is not the first study to produce these results |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 02:45 PM |
#105 |
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As much intensive training midwives may have |
Stuckinthebush |
Jun-17-05 03:05 PM |
#108 |
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at the base of our feelings we agree. |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 03:15 PM |
#110 |
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Exactly |
Stuckinthebush |
Jun-17-05 03:19 PM |
#112 |
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My daughter was born with a midwife at a hospital |
gollygee |
Jun-17-05 03:19 PM |
#111 |
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Best of both worlds! |
Stuckinthebush |
Jun-17-05 03:42 PM |
#114 |
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That isn't my experience |
Pithlet |
Jun-19-05 03:22 PM |
#165 |
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There a "fundamentalists" of all stripes. |
HuckleB |
Jun-20-05 10:15 AM |
#166 |
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birth 'em at home... |
triguy46 |
Jun-17-05 03:50 PM |
#116 |
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? |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 04:25 PM |
#121 |
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Don't be an ass |
Amaya |
Jun-17-05 04:26 PM |
#122 |
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mmmm-kay. |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 05:27 PM |
#133 |
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WTF? |
LeftyMom |
Jun-17-05 06:05 PM |
#143 |
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Physicians and Advanced Practice Nurses. Another sacred cow goes south? |
HuckleB |
Jun-17-05 04:40 PM |
#126 |
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I definitely do NOT plan to have my next child at home! |
Radio_Lady |
Jun-17-05 04:43 PM |
#127 |
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I am sure glad my daughter was in a hospital!!! |
KalicoKitty |
Jun-17-05 04:54 PM |
#129 |
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as has been stated time and time again in this thread. |
fleabert |
Jun-17-05 05:42 PM |
#136 |
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Fine with me. |
deadparrot |
Jun-17-05 05:36 PM |
#135 |
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no shit. |
LeftyMom |
Jun-17-05 05:57 PM |
#139 |
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That sounds dead on |
MountainLaurel |
Jun-17-05 06:25 PM |
#146 |
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Infernal Fetal Monitoring |
athenap |
Jun-18-05 10:00 AM |
#156 |
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We finally told our labor/delivery nurse to just leave us alone |
gollygee |
Jun-18-05 08:28 PM |
#158 |
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We had a daughter at home in '83 |
SHRED |
Jun-17-05 07:34 PM |
#150 |
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another great reason many families choose home birth, thanks for sharing! |
fleabert |
Jun-18-05 07:09 PM |
#157 |
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I grew up the daughter of an obstetrician/gynecologist |
kiraboo |
Jun-18-05 09:14 PM |
#159 |
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No offense, but that is the usual explanation. |
HuckleB |
Jun-19-05 11:37 AM |
#160 |
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In my Dad's case, it was based on personal experience. No offense taken. |
kiraboo |
Jun-19-05 02:42 PM |
#163 |
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Question for those in the know... |
JackDragna |
Jun-19-05 12:01 PM |
#161 |
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The evidence of safety for home births says not necessarily. |
HuckleB |
Jun-20-05 10:19 AM |
#167 |
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Sometimes I ponder this possibility when it comes to childbirth: |
Ilsa |
Jun-20-05 09:53 PM |
#176 |
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Kicking For Important Topic |
cryingshame |
Jun-19-05 01:09 PM |
#162 |
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At one point there were no hospitals. Plop, plop, there it is. |
HypnoToad |
Jun-19-05 02:50 PM |
#164 |
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And a lot of women died, and a lot of babies died |
shrike |
Jun-20-05 11:55 AM |
#169 |
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Indeed. |
HuckleB |
Jun-20-05 05:15 PM |
#170 |
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Some first time mothers do not even know they are high risk until they |
bunny planet |
Jun-20-05 06:14 PM |
#174 |
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? |
HuckleB |
Jun-20-05 09:34 PM |
#175 |
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Just giving my opinion based on my experience. I think it's safer to be |
bunny planet |
Jun-20-05 11:07 PM |
#177 |
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Again, that doesn't mean you're high risk. |
HuckleB |
Jun-21-05 07:57 AM |
#180 |
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Have you ever had a baby with a midwife or been to a maternity center? |
bunny planet |
Jun-21-05 10:44 AM |
#181 |
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Have you read this thread? |
HuckleB |
Jun-21-05 02:52 PM |
#182 |
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My daughter had HELLP Syndrome |
CTyankee |
Jun-21-05 03:43 PM |
#183 |
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There's been many studies done. |
SarahBelle |
Jun-22-05 05:22 PM |
#184 |
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