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Thu May-26-05 03:51 AM
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I thought that the Gosch and Wetterling cases may have been linked and it hit me then that both incidents took place just before national elections. With this surprising development perhaps my prayer at the end of the message I wrote this week for a DU lounge thread will be answered.
Fwd: I think I may have seen the devil
Got called into my 11 year old son's elementary school. Car is dead. Hop on the bus and sit on one of the front seats as ridership is low outside of rush hour. I am vegging, watching out the window. Something catches my eye and as I am watching it go by my eyes lock on a guy glaring at a 10 year old boy sitting by himself on the bus. Guy sees me looking at him and does not change his glare. I felt a chill go down my spine and bile come up from my stomach. Nobody has affected me that way before or since. I couldn't tell you about anyone else I ever saw on any bus in my 50 some years but that man is burned into my memory down to the ironed crease in his khaki pants. He gets off at the stop across from a racket ball club.
One week later I read in the paper that in the the alley behind the racket ball club an 11 year old boy was grabbed and almost forced into a silver car but a college student saw what was going on and grabbed the kid back out but they did not get the license plate number.
Two weeks later I hop of a bus and get off near the Sears store and start to walk across the street. A fellow in a silver car shouts out the passenger door to me just as I come past the front of his car. When I get to the other side I look at him to see if it is someone I know and it is the same guy from the bus. He has the creepiest grin on his face.
Three weeks later 11 year old Jacob Wetterling disappears from a small town just outside the Twin Cites. Forced off his bike at gunpoint and never seen again.
I told all of that to the St Paul Police when Jacob was not returned in 48 hours. After one week I went back and canvased the area and the racket ball club seemed to know the man as a member but didn't want to get involved. One year later I told the FBI all of that and at year two I told the Jacob Wetterling Foundation.
The day Jacob was taken I suddenly felt that he had been taken to an abandoned seminary. I knew of one that was half way between St Joseph and Minneapolis. I was talking to my sister-in-law on the phone later that evening and told her the weird recurring thought and her mother was listening to the conversation and she had the same weird thought but she knew of another abandoned seminary near the tip of Lake Brainard. Neither of us ever thought of ourselves as psychic in anyway.
About 6 years later money turned up in the Twin Cities with a message saying that the writer was Jacob Wetterling. Handwriting experts said it could be his writing. About that time I saw a kid hitching (the other direction) on University Avenue wearing a Tux with a pink tie loosened and top button open in front of some upscale gay restaurants. My immediate thought was that he looked a lot like the age enhanced depiction of Jacob Wetterling, so much that I pulled a uturn to go back and ask him his name two blocks later but when I got back to the are the kid was gone.
Every milestone that my 11 year old reached reminded me of Patty Wetterling and those times she would never have with her child. Perhaps if I had only one question I could ask of God it would be where are all the missing children?
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| -KWWL in Iowa reports on new leads in Gosch case. |
Sperk |
May-25-05 10:04 PM |
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Here is the article and link to their website |
Pirate Smile |
May-25-05 10:13 PM |
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thanks, I posted the wrong link |
Sperk |
May-25-05 10:14 PM |
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more |
Pirate Smile |
May-25-05 10:16 PM |
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Gun-running, narcotics trafficking, child prostitution... |
KansDem |
May-26-05 10:04 AM |
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Want to know who individuals are! Hurry up! |
lonestarnot |
May-27-05 09:02 AM |
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hmm, Jim Rothstein is very realiable ! |
hiley |
May-25-05 10:16 PM |
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why would they tell us this Rothstein is tracking two suspects who |
Sperk |
May-25-05 10:19 PM |
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I have questions too |
Frances |
May-25-05 10:23 PM |
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I know, you would think that info wouldn't be too hard to obtain for |
Sperk |
May-25-05 10:25 PM |
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I don't believe he (Guckert) has produced any family members |
CornField |
May-25-05 10:28 PM |
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No one has seen "The Guckerts" |
hiley |
May-25-05 10:57 PM |
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Maybe they are in hiding? |
cat_girl25 |
May-25-05 11:09 PM |
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I've wondered why he has no "family" |
Maraya1969 |
May-26-05 12:06 AM |
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because it is way more involved than |
hiley |
May-25-05 10:55 PM |
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If they were led to believe that the net was closing in |
Henny Penny |
May-27-05 11:10 AM |
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What about his OKC bombing lunacy? |
yibbehobba |
May-26-05 08:56 AM |
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The way they are reporting this |
sabra |
May-25-05 10:29 PM |
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Yes, very interesting isn't it? |
cat_girl25 |
May-25-05 11:11 PM |
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This is very odd indeed.... Majors playing in our pool |
althecat |
May-26-05 12:07 AM |
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Maybe KWWL will become a Fox station... |
calipendence |
May-26-05 12:13 AM |
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One more way this could play out: |
chalky |
May-26-05 04:35 PM |
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Yes... very droll... |
althecat |
May-26-05 04:52 PM |
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I don't think someone saying 'CIA' and 'f-in child molesters' will be |
CornField |
May-25-05 10:29 PM |
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is KWWL a major station in Iowa? |
Sperk |
May-25-05 10:31 PM |
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It also gets picked up in Cedar Rapids and Iowa City... |
calipendence |
May-25-05 10:35 PM |
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KCRG is right-wing |
Blue Gardener |
May-26-05 05:21 AM |
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Yes, it's one of the big three in Eastern Iowa |
brystheguy |
May-25-05 10:37 PM |
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Waterloo, Cedar Rapids, Iowa City, Dubuque - blue eastern Iowa. |
Pirate Smile |
May-25-05 10:41 PM |
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Hey, Davenport too! |
Itchinjim |
May-25-05 11:58 PM |
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But Quad Cities (including Davenport) have their own stations... |
calipendence |
May-26-05 12:02 AM |
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I just meant don't forget Davenport in blue eastern Iowa. |
Itchinjim |
May-26-05 12:18 AM |
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Of course. I just copied the names they listed on their masthead. |
Pirate Smile |
May-26-05 12:17 AM |
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it's owned by a company in Montgomery, Alabama, of all places |
Syrinx |
May-26-05 03:24 AM |
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I bet the CBS affiliate sure wont - it's a Sinclair station. |
Pirate Smile |
May-25-05 10:39 PM |
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It will only be spoken about |
hiley |
May-25-05 11:06 PM |
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a blast from the not so distant past.... |
stillcool47 |
May-25-05 10:30 PM |
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question |
slaveplanet |
May-25-05 10:45 PM |
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Rothstein has been working with Noreen |
hiley |
May-25-05 10:57 PM |
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Learn a lot with these radio interviews, if you like... |
hiley |
May-25-05 11:00 PM |
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I'm confused... |
melissaf |
May-25-05 11:29 PM |
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B/c there could be deadly consequences for both of them. |
imaginary girl |
May-25-05 11:42 PM |
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If we were to play devil's advocate... |
calipendence |
May-25-05 11:48 PM |
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Johnny Gosh's mother said she talked to him a few years ago and |
Maraya1969 |
May-26-05 12:10 AM |
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Because they would try and kill him. He was on the run. |
cat_girl25 |
May-26-05 12:17 AM |
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Hi Cat! Guess we posted at the same time (n/t) |
imaginary girl |
May-26-05 12:19 AM |
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Hi there! |
cat_girl25 |
May-26-05 12:23 AM |
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Agreed. It's very, very sad. |
imaginary girl |
May-26-05 12:36 AM |
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Again, according to Noreen's book (Why Johnny Can't Come Home) ... |
imaginary girl |
May-26-05 12:18 AM |
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Sounds like the perfect scene for Jerry Springer! n/t |
CabalPowered |
May-26-05 02:43 PM |
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i'm thinkin' i know why guckert/gannon shaves his entire body. |
truthisfreedom |
May-25-05 11:45 PM |
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Is this why Bush keeps grabbing his head and rubbing it? |
calipendence |
May-25-05 11:50 PM |
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Well, we know he shaves his head but how do you know he shaves |
cat_girl25 |
May-25-05 11:55 PM |
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the nude pics he put up of himself on the internet? |
truthisfreedom |
May-26-05 12:02 AM |
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Oh, LOL. I thought you meant present day. |
cat_girl25 |
May-26-05 12:06 AM |
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The resemblance is uncanny. |
laheina |
May-26-05 03:06 AM |
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I just hope they aren't setting people up for scapegoating ... |
imaginary girl |
May-25-05 11:47 PM |
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Well, I was thinking... |
laheina |
May-26-05 02:02 AM |
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Pax Puts Gannon on Polygraph |
seemslikeadream |
May-25-05 11:54 PM |
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Jeff Gannon hooks himself up to a polygraph |
seemslikeadream |
May-26-05 12:28 AM |
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This seems very contrived to me. |
laheina |
May-26-05 02:05 AM |
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Wow! This sounds very serious... |
TheGoldenRule |
May-26-05 12:01 AM |
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This story is all about discrediting blogs |
Must_B_Free |
May-26-05 12:04 AM |
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Sounds like far too much effort is being put in for this to be true... |
althecat |
May-26-05 12:09 AM |
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Um, new evidence in the Johnny Gosch case has nothing to do with blogs. |
cat_girl25 |
May-26-05 12:09 AM |
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Yep. That's what he said. Problem is... |
fooj |
May-26-05 04:44 AM |
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And attempt to smear Patty Wetterling in the same stroke |
preciousdove |
May-26-05 04:50 AM |
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This story is only tangentially about Gannon: |
Minstrel Boy |
May-26-05 05:31 AM |
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This Rothstein had better name names if this is really going to go anywher |
TheGunslinger |
May-26-05 06:16 AM |
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It supports the allegations of the Hersha sisters and most ethical |
bobthedrummer |
May-26-05 02:47 PM |
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That's my first thoughts. |
bushwentawol |
May-26-05 06:50 AM |
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Ya, I picked up on that, too. |
EST |
May-27-05 09:41 AM |
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Rigorous Intuition's blog: |
cat_girl25 |
May-26-05 12:26 AM |
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Kick again for the truth on this Xfiles type story. |
sarcasmo |
May-28-05 08:08 PM |
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Curiouser and Curiouser |
preciousdove |
May-26-05 03:51 AM |
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Chills up my back--------- |
nonny |
May-26-05 06:23 AM |
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Thanks for sharing that Precious dove... |
althecat |
May-26-05 06:32 AM |
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The days get more interesting |
Domitan |
May-26-05 07:12 AM |
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Umm... it's bullshit? |
yibbehobba |
May-26-05 07:23 AM |
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Speaking of baseless innuendo, |
Minstrel Boy |
May-26-05 07:57 AM |
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Simple assumption on my part... |
yibbehobba |
May-26-05 08:55 AM |
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All I can say is---wtf? True or not, this story is bizarromundo. |
McCamy Taylor |
May-26-05 08:25 AM |
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JimmyJeff's best friend Bo Dietl of MSNBC was supposed to clear this up |
sabra |
May-26-05 08:40 AM |
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What is the deal with Bo Dietl? |
TheGoldenRule |
May-26-05 09:53 AM |
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They cut his show, after the JJ interview |
sabra |
May-26-05 10:30 AM |
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"offered him a prime time slot on MSNBC minus Lisa Daniels" |
Minstrel Boy |
May-26-05 11:00 AM |
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That had to most vile thing |
hiley |
May-26-05 12:53 PM |
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Dietl is a moron... |
silvermachine |
May-27-05 09:11 AM |
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Idaho abduction case baffles investigators. |
barbaraann |
May-26-05 09:59 AM |
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Remember when Bush started to talk about Sex Trade and it seemed |
rainy |
May-26-05 10:53 AM |
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From what I've read |
CornField |
May-26-05 10:58 AM |
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so true CornField |
hiley |
May-26-05 12:38 PM |
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Yes I heard that speech at the UN and wondered |
goclark |
May-28-05 12:46 AM |
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Smearing Patty Wetterling by association? |
preciousdove |
May-26-05 02:07 PM |
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I don't understand how this would. |
Minstrel Boy |
May-26-05 02:44 PM |
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Did anyone see the report on TV? |
sabra |
May-26-05 10:15 PM |
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Kick! n/t |
LeahD |
May-27-05 01:55 AM |
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boot! |
Domitan |
May-27-05 07:23 AM |
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This should be on page 1-kick. |
bobthedrummer |
May-27-05 08:39 AM |
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I agree! |
sabra |
May-27-05 09:42 AM |
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it's just wierd wierd wierd |
dejaboutique |
May-27-05 05:24 PM |
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good question....any Gosch talk around the water cooler? |
Sperk |
May-27-05 11:03 PM |
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I was in IA when Gosch was taken...my son was about his age; |
bobbieinok |
May-28-05 07:38 PM |
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Kick for the truth |
hiley |
May-27-05 11:54 PM |
#100 |