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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 11:31 AM
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14. WP did a big old puff piece on Phillip Johnson (ID proponent)
Edited on Mon May-16-05 11:32 AM by yellowcanine
this weekend. Didn't bother to point out his habit of misquoting real scientists and the fact that he has almost no scientific training himself and little understanding about how science works (Johnson's field is law).

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  -NYT: Kansas Debate Challenges Science Itself mcscajun  May-16-05 10:31 AM   #0 
  - Is it possible to expel a state?  Zynx   May-16-05 10:32 AM   #1 
  - And where do you propose  proud2Blib   May-16-05 10:43 AM   #6 
  - To the polls and vote the Conservative idiots out  Toots   May-16-05 06:11 PM   #35 
     - Well I sure didn't vote for any of these yahoos  proud2Blib   May-16-05 06:26 PM   #37 
     - I'm guessing any Kansans who frequent DU already did vote against  atommom   May-16-05 08:36 PM   #55 
  - You'd have to expel a lot more states than you might think  atommom   May-16-05 10:48 AM   #7 
     - More power to you, and keep up the fight!  mcscajun   May-16-05 12:38 PM   #19 
  - And Kansas happens to be sitting where??  Roland99   May-16-05 10:35 AM   #2 
  - Interesting link you've got there...  mcscajun   May-16-05 10:39 AM   #3 
  - Maybe it's where the Jesus Fish came from.  Roland99   May-16-05 10:43 AM   #5 
  - That's one reason we have so many good paleontologists here  atommom   May-16-05 10:50 AM   #8 
  - Somewhat related, but this is where the term "Rock Chalk Jayhawk"  Scout1071   May-16-05 07:17 PM   #45 
     - "The University of Kansas, located in a BLUE county"  XemaSab   May-16-05 08:16 PM   #50 
  - If they want to redefine science, let's redefine religion  daleo   May-16-05 10:42 AM   #4 
  - Strangely, IDers have it as much right on this point as their critics.  eallen   May-16-05 10:51 AM   #9 
  - It is not poorly defined at all.  K-W   May-16-05 11:04 AM   #11 
  - Really? Let's hear your definition.  eallen   May-16-05 11:13 AM   #12 
     - A dictionary should be able to clear up your confusion.  K-W   May-16-05 11:14 AM   #13 
     - The dictionary makes my point quite well.  eallen   May-16-05 11:45 AM   #16 
        - No subject is excluded from sceintific investigation.  K-W   May-16-05 01:11 PM   #24 
           - So, let's not define science as having restricted subject matter.  eallen   May-16-05 01:48 PM   #25 
              - Things do not exist until proven to not exist.  K-W   May-16-05 04:14 PM   #30 
                 - Burden of proof, language, and logic  eallen   May-16-05 04:52 PM   #33 
     - Supernatural = violating known scientific laws  Zynx   May-16-05 11:33 AM   #15 
        - When scientists find break from known scientific law, they change the law.  eallen   May-16-05 11:54 AM   #17 
           - No, scientists don't change scientific laws. They change theories  Zynx   May-16-05 03:00 PM   #27 
              - I have little use for supernatural BS.  eallen   May-16-05 03:48 PM   #28 
              - "Fairies do exist" is indeed a scientific claim.  K-W   May-16-05 04:19 PM   #31 
                 - "Fairies don't exist"  XemaSab   May-16-05 08:22 PM   #53 
  - well said  realcountrymusic   May-16-05 12:55 PM   #22 
  - The distinction between natural and supernatural is not "poorly defined"  struggle4progress   May-16-05 06:36 PM   #38 
     - Sigh. That's what KW said above.  eallen   May-16-05 07:29 PM   #46 
        - Natural phenomena are phenomena subject to "natural law" and  struggle4progress   May-16-05 08:17 PM   #51 
  - When you START with the notion that Man was the sole objective of Creation  TahitiNut   May-16-05 11:04 AM   #10 
  - WP did a big old puff piece on Phillip Johnson (ID proponent)  yellowcanine   May-16-05 11:31 AM   #14 
  - Yes, they challenge science  triguy46   May-16-05 12:29 PM   #18 
  - Holding a public debate to determine the validity of evolutionary theory  hatrack   May-16-05 12:42 PM   #20 
  - I suggest the above debaters  drduffy   May-16-05 12:52 PM   #21 
  - I suggest you go back and reread those texts.  eallen   May-16-05 02:38 PM   #26 
  - Theism is not science because it is irrational.  K-W   May-16-05 04:25 PM   #32 
  - Perhaps you should go back and review  drduffy   May-16-05 06:01 PM   #34 
  - I agree partly...  eallen   May-16-05 07:37 PM   #48 
     - actually eallen  drduffy   May-16-05 08:12 PM   #49 
  - add to the list Richard Feynman's "The Character of Physical Law."  kodi   May-16-05 07:13 PM   #42 
  - add to the list Richard Feynman's "The Character of Physical Law."  kodi   May-16-05 07:13 PM   #43 
  - That has been ID's intent all along.  damntexdem   May-16-05 01:03 PM   #23 
  - In other words, a bible study plan is now "science".  Zhade   May-16-05 03:59 PM   #29 
  - The reality the Religious Right is not open to objective analysis  kodi   May-16-05 06:18 PM   #36 
  - nice article  drduffy   May-16-05 06:46 PM   #39 
  - i remember where he stood as he spoke it, in ashen mud outside auschwitz  kodi   May-16-05 07:00 PM   #40 
  - Nice article! It's a scary situation.  atommom   May-16-05 07:12 PM   #41 
     - the fundies have said  drduffy   May-16-05 08:19 PM   #52 
  - This Kansan could not be more embarrassed for my state.  Scout1071   May-16-05 07:14 PM   #44 
  - I agree about the zip code. I know some great people in Topeka,  atommom   May-16-05 07:34 PM   #47 
     - ah Wichita...  drduffy   May-16-05 08:23 PM   #54 
        - 619? Whose zip code is THAT?  atommom   May-16-05 08:43 PM   #56 
  - Can't we just take the reddest state  Peake   May-16-05 08:45 PM   #57 
     - "If they had their own place, would they stop trying...  mcscajun   May-16-05 09:06 PM   #58 
        - Should I feel bad about being tolerant enough to live alongside  Peake   May-16-05 10:12 PM   #59 

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