TahitiNut
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| 62. Where are all the "Supply-Siders"??? |
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After all, it's a tenet of "supply-side thinking" that revenues are increased if tax rates are decreased. So... when will we hear one of these Laffer-zealots propose lowering the payroll tax rates in order to increase Social Security revenues??
Funny about that. I guess it's only a handy rationale when it comes to lowering taxes on the wealthy. (Hypocritical fucks!)
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| -Dem. Congressman Offers 1st Soc. Sec. Fix |
cal04 |
May-13-05 07:31 PM |
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Why raise taxes to build up the trust fund that pubbies will steal? |
Inland |
May-13-05 07:37 PM |
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Better to take it from those earning more than $90,000 instead of less. |
Massacure |
May-13-05 08:45 PM |
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It's just more taxes disguising Bush deficits, to be stolen later |
Inland |
May-13-05 09:40 PM |
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You don't get the point. The point is that it isn't on the middle class. |
Massacure |
May-13-05 10:51 PM |
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What is not middle class about 90K/yr? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-14-05 05:46 PM |
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According to Wikipedia, |
johnaries |
May-15-05 03:44 PM |
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You're wrong, not stolen later, stolen right now |
MissWaverly |
May-14-05 08:02 AM |
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You are absolutely right, Ms.W |
dmr |
May-14-05 06:10 PM |
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not one penny |
MissWaverly |
May-14-05 07:21 PM |
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How about we raise 'it' |
Warren Stupidity |
May-13-05 10:29 PM |
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Social Securty doesnt get money from the general accounts. |
Massacure |
May-13-05 10:50 PM |
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Right |
Warren Stupidity |
May-14-05 08:19 AM |
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Our money? Do you earn more than $90,000 a year? |
Massacure |
May-14-05 09:38 PM |
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huh? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-15-05 09:02 AM |
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Think of it this way. |
Massacure |
May-15-05 06:18 PM |
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Answer this question: |
Warren Stupidity |
May-16-05 06:25 AM |
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Well as a middle income American UNDER 55 I say |
MichiganVote |
May-13-05 07:44 PM |
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actually you have OVERPAID for decades...at least since 83 |
stevebreeze |
May-14-05 04:02 PM |
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The whole thing makes me feel sick. Crooks in Washington |
MichiganVote |
May-14-05 05:09 PM |
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This and the responses sure look like a plant. |
Holland |
May-13-05 07:49 PM |
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Maybe BushCo sent this sellout |
Disturbed |
May-13-05 08:01 PM |
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Sellout??... BWAHAHA... ~gasp~ HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! |
ClassWarrior |
May-13-05 08:57 PM |
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I could live with people making greater than $90K not paying... |
Bush in Berkeley |
May-13-05 08:25 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-13-05 09:44 PM |
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huh? what is wrong with a reasonable option? |
ldf |
May-14-05 12:00 PM |
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why should FICA go up at all? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-13-05 10:31 PM |
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4. because benefits are capped |
mopinko |
May-14-05 09:58 AM |
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Sorry. It is not a "what you pay in is what you get out" type |
Holland |
May-14-05 04:52 PM |
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what you get out IS based on what you pay in |
mopinko |
May-14-05 05:59 PM |
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Not true. You know that! |
Holland |
May-14-05 06:07 PM |
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those benefits are based on input |
mopinko |
May-14-05 06:20 PM |
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No Dont You Dare Stop |
Warren Stupidity |
May-15-05 09:09 AM |
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it's just so discouraging |
mopinko |
May-15-05 11:22 AM |
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Perhaps you should. |
Holland |
May-15-05 07:33 PM |
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perhaps you should |
mopinko |
May-16-05 03:50 PM |
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Mopinko, I agree with you in many ways! |
Holland |
May-16-05 09:10 PM |
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How much you wanna bet he's a DLC'er? |
desi826 |
May-13-05 07:57 PM |
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What the hell are you smoking? |
Massacure |
May-13-05 08:46 PM |
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Yeah, I want some. |
BlueIris |
May-13-05 09:42 PM |
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Usual DU DLC Nonsense. Wexler Is One Of The Good Guys |
cryingshame |
May-13-05 08:50 PM |
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AMEN! |
wicket |
May-15-05 04:03 PM |
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Thank you. |
FlaGranny |
May-15-05 04:14 PM |
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Vote him out?? he's one of the bravest and best |
mitchtv |
May-13-05 09:42 PM |
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$50 |
Freddie Stubbs |
May-14-05 11:37 AM |
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Well, it's a plan. And it would work. |
mainer |
May-13-05 08:05 PM |
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It is a horrible plan. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-13-05 10:32 PM |
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You keep saying that, but you don't say why. end the cap, it's only fair. |
leesa |
May-14-05 10:48 AM |
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I've said why several times right here in this thread |
Warren Stupidity |
May-14-05 11:28 AM |
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as to the objection we are playing into their hands with a "flat tax" |
Hamlette |
May-14-05 12:26 PM |
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I mostly agree ( I think) |
Warren Stupidity |
May-14-05 05:12 PM |
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I think I'm starting to understand what you're saying. |
johnaries |
May-15-05 04:03 PM |
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Why wouldn't it work? |
mainer |
May-15-05 11:41 AM |
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Exactly what problem are you fixing? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-15-05 12:41 PM |
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If he were from any state but Florida, I wouldn't look under that rock. |
Straight Shooter |
May-13-05 08:44 PM |
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Hey everyone! |
Holland |
May-13-05 09:43 PM |
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I like that it doesn't raise retirement age and it beats Private Accounts |
lovuian |
May-13-05 09:45 PM |
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They would be happy |
Warren Stupidity |
May-13-05 10:34 PM |
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Now Bushco can beat up on Dems over raising taxes.... |
Gloria |
May-13-05 10:10 PM |
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SS is running a surplus and will until at least 2018 |
Warren Stupidity |
May-13-05 10:28 PM |
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kick to combine |
Moderator |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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Florida's Wexler first Democratic to offer Social Security fix |
Judi Lynn |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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Sounds reasonable |
bklyncowgirl |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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Reasonable? |
TomClash |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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It is both reasonable and a path to lower SS rates in the future |
ibid |
May-14-05 07:12 AM |
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Why? |
TomClash |
May-14-05 07:39 AM |
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WE AGREE ON "true national pension and health care plan" - BUT |
ibid |
May-14-05 01:33 PM |
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That makes no sense |
TomClash |
May-14-05 02:45 PM |
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We agree on the logic - but I need to sell you on the no wage cap goal! |
ibid |
May-15-05 01:02 AM |
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Don't you see what you're doing? |
TomClash |
May-15-05 06:19 AM |
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I want million dollar benefit checks from SS - more earnings means more |
ibid |
May-15-05 02:49 PM |
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In reponse to the no wage cap |
Moxygirl |
May-15-05 07:39 AM |
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true - treating investment income the same as wages makes sense - |
ibid |
May-15-05 02:57 PM |
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I don't get that at all. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-14-05 05:34 PM |
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No wage cap is my goal - we have 2 Federal Income taxes - and getting |
ibid |
May-15-05 12:53 AM |
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What Bush plan? |
Skwmom |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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Exactly |
Demgirl |
May-14-05 10:42 AM |
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tentatively good |
Kenneth ken |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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Why fix what ain't broke? |
TomClash |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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peechee |
sandnsea |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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And for no reason on top of it nt |
TomClash |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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Looks good to me. Of course big media spinned it as I expected they would |
w4rma |
May-14-05 10:32 AM |
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Beat GOP at their own game--make flat tax all the way up at LOWER % |
yurbud |
May-14-05 11:32 AM |
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He's just pointing out the obivous |
rocknation |
May-14-05 11:38 AM |
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FICA is running a surplus |
Warren Stupidity |
May-14-05 12:04 PM |
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Just because "nobody is proposing" eliminating the cap and lowering FICA |
rocknation |
May-14-05 12:49 PM |
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no it means that it is irrelevant to this discussion |
Warren Stupidity |
May-14-05 05:02 PM |
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Thanks for actually getting it. nt |
TomClash |
May-14-05 03:06 PM |
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The minority party could think 2 steps ahead rather than one, eh? |
ibid |
May-15-05 01:07 AM |
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REPEAL THE TAX CUTS FOR THE TOP |
Selatius |
May-14-05 02:16 PM |
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And while we are at it, |
dkofos |
May-14-05 04:56 PM |
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Where are all the "Supply-Siders"??? |
TahitiNut |
May-14-05 05:20 PM |
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Lower the FICA rate to 5% but tax ALL income |
Bozita |
May-14-05 09:57 PM |
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I agree! :-) |
ibid |
May-15-05 01:08 AM |
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Democrat to break ranks, unveil retirement bill (Wexler, FL) |
TacticalPeek |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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Wexler has been chopped to take the point... |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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Rethugs won't accept it. They want to destroy SS. Not Reform. |
AuntiBush |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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Set the over cap rate at 50% of the 12.4% - and give 50% credit |
ibid |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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Can you explain that, ibid? . . . |
Journeyman |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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They should be unified behind this plan... |
LiberalFighter |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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This article |
FlaGranny |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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That's what I thought |
flygal |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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There is no SS crisis |
Warren Stupidity |
May-15-05 09:32 AM |
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Wexler's seat is relatively safe isn't it? |
electricray |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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Wexler is my Rep |
tkmorris |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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I'm impressed with what I see so far |
electricray |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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I loved Congressman Robert |
zidzi |
May-15-05 02:57 PM |
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From what I read, it sounds ok... |
spuddonna |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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He must be drummed out of the Democratic party. |
iconoclastNYC |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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Why has there not been a call to protect the SS trust fund from being... |
Opposite Reaction |
May-15-05 09:59 AM |
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Excellent Point! |
zidzi |
May-15-05 03:01 PM |
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Now the Republicans cant say the Democrats don't have a plan |
Robworld |
May-16-05 06:33 AM |
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the plan |
Warren Stupidity |
May-16-05 07:48 PM |
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Pay back the trust fund |
november3rd |
May-16-05 04:36 PM |
#111 |
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