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| 28. Florida's Wexler first Democratic to offer Social Security fix |
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Florida's Wexler first Democratic to offer Social Security fix By GLEN JOHNSON Associated Press Writer Last update: May 13, 2005 WASHINGTON -- Breaking with party leaders, a Florida Democratic congressman plans to introduce Social Security legislation, saying his first commitment is to his constituents. U.S. Rep. Robert Wexler of Boca Raton said Friday: "I have the largest amount of Social Security recipients of any Democrat anywhere in the country. My allegiance to seniors is greater than my allegiance to the Democratic Party." While Wexler is proposing tax increases that would clash with President Bush's pledge not to expand the existing payroll tax, his legislation was heralded by the White House in part because Democrats had steadfastly refused to offer an alternative to Bush's plan. (snip) Wexler's bill calls for a 6 percent tax on all income above the current $90,000 cap. Three percent would be paid by workers and 3 percent paid by their employer. (snip/...) http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/New... |
| -Dem. Congressman Offers 1st Soc. Sec. Fix |
cal04 |
May-13-05 07:31 PM |
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Why raise taxes to build up the trust fund that pubbies will steal? |
Inland |
May-13-05 07:37 PM |
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Better to take it from those earning more than $90,000 instead of less. |
Massacure |
May-13-05 08:45 PM |
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It's just more taxes disguising Bush deficits, to be stolen later |
Inland |
May-13-05 09:40 PM |
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You don't get the point. The point is that it isn't on the middle class. |
Massacure |
May-13-05 10:51 PM |
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What is not middle class about 90K/yr? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-14-05 05:46 PM |
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According to Wikipedia, |
johnaries |
May-15-05 03:44 PM |
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You're wrong, not stolen later, stolen right now |
MissWaverly |
May-14-05 08:02 AM |
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You are absolutely right, Ms.W |
dmr |
May-14-05 06:10 PM |
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not one penny |
MissWaverly |
May-14-05 07:21 PM |
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How about we raise 'it' |
Warren Stupidity |
May-13-05 10:29 PM |
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Social Securty doesnt get money from the general accounts. |
Massacure |
May-13-05 10:50 PM |
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Right |
Warren Stupidity |
May-14-05 08:19 AM |
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Our money? Do you earn more than $90,000 a year? |
Massacure |
May-14-05 09:38 PM |
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huh? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-15-05 09:02 AM |
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Think of it this way. |
Massacure |
May-15-05 06:18 PM |
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Answer this question: |
Warren Stupidity |
May-16-05 06:25 AM |
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Well as a middle income American UNDER 55 I say |
MichiganVote |
May-13-05 07:44 PM |
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actually you have OVERPAID for decades...at least since 83 |
stevebreeze |
May-14-05 04:02 PM |
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The whole thing makes me feel sick. Crooks in Washington |
MichiganVote |
May-14-05 05:09 PM |
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This and the responses sure look like a plant. |
Holland |
May-13-05 07:49 PM |
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Maybe BushCo sent this sellout |
Disturbed |
May-13-05 08:01 PM |
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Sellout??... BWAHAHA... ~gasp~ HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! |
ClassWarrior |
May-13-05 08:57 PM |
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I could live with people making greater than $90K not paying... |
Bush in Berkeley |
May-13-05 08:25 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
May-13-05 09:44 PM |
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huh? what is wrong with a reasonable option? |
ldf |
May-14-05 12:00 PM |
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why should FICA go up at all? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-13-05 10:31 PM |
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4. because benefits are capped |
mopinko |
May-14-05 09:58 AM |
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Sorry. It is not a "what you pay in is what you get out" type |
Holland |
May-14-05 04:52 PM |
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what you get out IS based on what you pay in |
mopinko |
May-14-05 05:59 PM |
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Not true. You know that! |
Holland |
May-14-05 06:07 PM |
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those benefits are based on input |
mopinko |
May-14-05 06:20 PM |
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No Dont You Dare Stop |
Warren Stupidity |
May-15-05 09:09 AM |
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it's just so discouraging |
mopinko |
May-15-05 11:22 AM |
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Perhaps you should. |
Holland |
May-15-05 07:33 PM |
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perhaps you should |
mopinko |
May-16-05 03:50 PM |
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Mopinko, I agree with you in many ways! |
Holland |
May-16-05 09:10 PM |
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How much you wanna bet he's a DLC'er? |
desi826 |
May-13-05 07:57 PM |
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What the hell are you smoking? |
Massacure |
May-13-05 08:46 PM |
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Yeah, I want some. |
BlueIris |
May-13-05 09:42 PM |
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Usual DU DLC Nonsense. Wexler Is One Of The Good Guys |
cryingshame |
May-13-05 08:50 PM |
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AMEN! |
wicket |
May-15-05 04:03 PM |
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Thank you. |
FlaGranny |
May-15-05 04:14 PM |
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Vote him out?? he's one of the bravest and best |
mitchtv |
May-13-05 09:42 PM |
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$50 |
Freddie Stubbs |
May-14-05 11:37 AM |
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Well, it's a plan. And it would work. |
mainer |
May-13-05 08:05 PM |
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It is a horrible plan. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-13-05 10:32 PM |
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You keep saying that, but you don't say why. end the cap, it's only fair. |
leesa |
May-14-05 10:48 AM |
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I've said why several times right here in this thread |
Warren Stupidity |
May-14-05 11:28 AM |
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as to the objection we are playing into their hands with a "flat tax" |
Hamlette |
May-14-05 12:26 PM |
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I mostly agree ( I think) |
Warren Stupidity |
May-14-05 05:12 PM |
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I think I'm starting to understand what you're saying. |
johnaries |
May-15-05 04:03 PM |
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Why wouldn't it work? |
mainer |
May-15-05 11:41 AM |
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Exactly what problem are you fixing? |
Warren Stupidity |
May-15-05 12:41 PM |
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If he were from any state but Florida, I wouldn't look under that rock. |
Straight Shooter |
May-13-05 08:44 PM |
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Hey everyone! |
Holland |
May-13-05 09:43 PM |
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I like that it doesn't raise retirement age and it beats Private Accounts |
lovuian |
May-13-05 09:45 PM |
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They would be happy |
Warren Stupidity |
May-13-05 10:34 PM |
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Now Bushco can beat up on Dems over raising taxes.... |
Gloria |
May-13-05 10:10 PM |
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SS is running a surplus and will until at least 2018 |
Warren Stupidity |
May-13-05 10:28 PM |
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kick to combine |
Moderator |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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Florida's Wexler first Democratic to offer Social Security fix |
Judi Lynn |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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Sounds reasonable |
bklyncowgirl |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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Reasonable? |
TomClash |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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It is both reasonable and a path to lower SS rates in the future |
ibid |
May-14-05 07:12 AM |
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Why? |
TomClash |
May-14-05 07:39 AM |
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WE AGREE ON "true national pension and health care plan" - BUT |
ibid |
May-14-05 01:33 PM |
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That makes no sense |
TomClash |
May-14-05 02:45 PM |
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We agree on the logic - but I need to sell you on the no wage cap goal! |
ibid |
May-15-05 01:02 AM |
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Don't you see what you're doing? |
TomClash |
May-15-05 06:19 AM |
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I want million dollar benefit checks from SS - more earnings means more |
ibid |
May-15-05 02:49 PM |
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In reponse to the no wage cap |
Moxygirl |
May-15-05 07:39 AM |
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true - treating investment income the same as wages makes sense - |
ibid |
May-15-05 02:57 PM |
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I don't get that at all. |
Warren Stupidity |
May-14-05 05:34 PM |
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No wage cap is my goal - we have 2 Federal Income taxes - and getting |
ibid |
May-15-05 12:53 AM |
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What Bush plan? |
Skwmom |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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Exactly |
Demgirl |
May-14-05 10:42 AM |
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tentatively good |
Kenneth ken |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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Why fix what ain't broke? |
TomClash |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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peechee |
sandnsea |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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And for no reason on top of it nt |
TomClash |
May-14-05 07:11 AM |
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Looks good to me. Of course big media spinned it as I expected they would |
w4rma |
May-14-05 10:32 AM |
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Beat GOP at their own game--make flat tax all the way up at LOWER % |
yurbud |
May-14-05 11:32 AM |
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He's just pointing out the obivous |
rocknation |
May-14-05 11:38 AM |
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FICA is running a surplus |
Warren Stupidity |
May-14-05 12:04 PM |
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Just because "nobody is proposing" eliminating the cap and lowering FICA |
rocknation |
May-14-05 12:49 PM |
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no it means that it is irrelevant to this discussion |
Warren Stupidity |
May-14-05 05:02 PM |
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Thanks for actually getting it. nt |
TomClash |
May-14-05 03:06 PM |
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The minority party could think 2 steps ahead rather than one, eh? |
ibid |
May-15-05 01:07 AM |
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REPEAL THE TAX CUTS FOR THE TOP |
Selatius |
May-14-05 02:16 PM |
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And while we are at it, |
dkofos |
May-14-05 04:56 PM |
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Where are all the "Supply-Siders"??? |
TahitiNut |
May-14-05 05:20 PM |
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Lower the FICA rate to 5% but tax ALL income |
Bozita |
May-14-05 09:57 PM |
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I agree! :-) |
ibid |
May-15-05 01:08 AM |
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Democrat to break ranks, unveil retirement bill (Wexler, FL) |
TacticalPeek |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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Wexler has been chopped to take the point... |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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Rethugs won't accept it. They want to destroy SS. Not Reform. |
AuntiBush |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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Set the over cap rate at 50% of the 12.4% - and give 50% credit |
ibid |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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Can you explain that, ibid? . . . |
Journeyman |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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They should be unified behind this plan... |
LiberalFighter |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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This article |
FlaGranny |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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That's what I thought |
flygal |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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There is no SS crisis |
Warren Stupidity |
May-15-05 09:32 AM |
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Wexler's seat is relatively safe isn't it? |
electricray |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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Wexler is my Rep |
tkmorris |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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I'm impressed with what I see so far |
electricray |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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I loved Congressman Robert |
zidzi |
May-15-05 02:57 PM |
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From what I read, it sounds ok... |
spuddonna |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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He must be drummed out of the Democratic party. |
iconoclastNYC |
May-15-05 07:52 AM |
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Why has there not been a call to protect the SS trust fund from being... |
Opposite Reaction |
May-15-05 09:59 AM |
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Excellent Point! |
zidzi |
May-15-05 03:01 PM |
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Now the Republicans cant say the Democrats don't have a plan |
Robworld |
May-16-05 06:33 AM |
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the plan |
Warren Stupidity |
May-16-05 07:48 PM |
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Pay back the trust fund |
november3rd |
May-16-05 04:36 PM |
#111 |
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