Sick_of_Rethuggery
(847 posts)
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Thu Apr-21-05 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #62 |
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On the other hand, the argument could be made that when one's character is impugned, the best defense is witnesses other than one-self. Where were the other Dems, when their standard-bearers (who were known to be almost too good to be true: Gore was routinely referred to as a "boy-scout" by those who seemingly knew him well; Kerry needs no other witness beyond VVAW and his whole career) were being so vicously attacked? If your own will not stand up for you, who will, given that you are not yourself a credible defender of your own integrity beyond your actual conduct?
What was done to the reputations of Gore and Kerry did not really demean the media and the Rethugs in my eyes, they each had at least some perverted self-interest -- what was in the silence of/for the Dems? It nearly made me a cynic, an eternal optimist. I have said it many times on this forum and because it is so critically important, I will say it again, until the Dems stand up for each other, it doesnt even matter that the voting machinery is rigged.
Two glaring examples how bad the situation is for Dem Presidential candidates: When Gore had won the popular vote, when innumerable AA's had arguably been disenfranchised in Florida, and in the face of brazen rethug unity, there was Ed Rendell on Chris Matthews' show "Gore should pack it in"! And here you had Kerry, the guy who fought for his country and spoken out against an unjust, unwinnable war, attacked by the troop-supporting whack jobs on the right and nary a peep from the Dems on the talking head shows, which is were visibility for an issue is won. Kerry tried to defend himself and the Dems piled on him, saying he should not have been so serious about it.
If I didnt know better, I would have thought I was watching a bizarre movie...
The wing nuts seem to run better campaigns only because the media will not amplify in their echo chamber the gaffes that the boy-king made in both campaigns. I will catalog them in a later post...
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Kerry: Don't tell me what God wants |
Gman |
Apr-21-05 07:21 AM |
#0 |

well that's certainly to the point. |
xchrom |
Apr-21-05 07:23 AM |
#1 |
 
And that is where we have to get |
Freedom_from_Chains |
Apr-21-05 08:09 AM |
#17 |
  
I guess Cardinal Rat Man and his attempt to control US elections |
saigon68 |
Apr-21-05 01:37 PM |
#100 |
  
do they hate our freedom? |
radfringe |
Apr-22-05 06:03 AM |
#162 |
 
Yes, they hate freedom, in all its forms. |
Freedom_from_Chains |
Apr-22-05 11:37 AM |
#166 |
 
Here is some more or the text. |
Pirate Smile |
Apr-21-05 08:31 AM |
#24 |
  
Kerry is absolutely right about the weird |
alcibiades_mystery |
Apr-21-05 08:52 AM |
#30 |
   
That is sick....And not at all sanctioned by the church. |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Apr-21-05 09:17 AM |
#40 |
    
what delightful tulips! |
jean |
Apr-21-05 07:24 PM |
#137 |
   
Google Tulips. |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Apr-21-05 09:22 PM |
#144 |
   
Urgh... |
sakabatou |
Apr-21-05 02:05 PM |
#109 |
  
This is 1 more reason why I PROUDLY voted for this man! |
AuntiBush |
Apr-21-05 07:42 PM |
#140 |
 
I agree. If he had only said that during the elections. That is the kind |
merwin |
Apr-21-05 11:51 AM |
#82 |

I'm no Kerry basher, but |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-21-05 07:24 AM |
#2 |
 
Resounding YES! |
BrainRants |
Apr-21-05 07:26 AM |
#3 |
  
I somewhat agree |
shadowknows69 |
Apr-21-05 01:46 PM |
#103 |
 
I disagree |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Apr-21-05 06:38 PM |
#131 |
 
I'm with you "OldLeftieLawyer!" |
AuntiBush |
Apr-21-05 07:53 PM |
#142 |
 
I didn't say I didn't agree just that it will be hard |
shadowknows69 |
Apr-22-05 12:42 AM |
#151 |
 
so couLd have aL gore in 2000 |
sniffa |
Apr-21-05 07:26 AM |
#5 |
  
Don't get me wrong at all - I'm glad he said it. |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-21-05 07:54 AM |
#13 |
   
oh i know |
sniffa |
Apr-21-05 08:09 AM |
#16 |
  
How about both -- attack AND assert a position? I agree... |
DrZeeLit |
Apr-21-05 09:13 AM |
#37 |
   
Is that a doctored photo - |
Maat |
Apr-21-05 12:49 PM |
#87 |
  
As far as I know, not doctored... BUT... I didn't take it; a friend sent |
DrZeeLit |
Apr-21-05 04:24 PM |
#121 |
  
Thanks. |
Maat |
Apr-21-05 04:53 PM |
#123 |
  
I wish they would have |
antonialee839 |
Apr-21-05 01:15 PM |
#92 |
  
Yes, but you would think |
Oregonian |
Apr-22-05 11:32 AM |
#165 |
  
I swear I think our last two candidates |
tavalon |
Apr-21-05 08:18 AM |
#23 |
   
that's a very smart point |
ginnyinWI |
Apr-21-05 01:34 PM |
#97 |
   
Two words: Al From |
Hand |
Apr-21-05 01:40 PM |
#101 |
  
From hates Kerry and does not advise him. |
blm |
Apr-21-05 05:47 PM |
#124 |
  
Don't forget Bob Schrum |
OldLeftieLawyer |
Apr-21-05 06:41 PM |
#132 |
  
Don't forget he was the twit who replaced |
dragon695 |
Apr-21-05 06:44 PM |
#133 |
  
Bingo! |
Demgirl |
Apr-21-05 07:32 PM |
#139 |
  
Can someone teLL me... |
kiki |
Apr-21-05 08:48 AM |
#28 |
   
did you check the FAQ's? |
sniffa |
Apr-21-05 08:56 AM |
#31 |
    
Can't immediately see anything about it on there... |
kiki |
Apr-21-05 09:08 AM |
#35 |
   
Sniffa's keyboard has some "issues" with the letter L. |
Pirate Smile |
Apr-21-05 10:25 AM |
#63 |
   
Sniffa always caps the "L" because it's the first letter of "liberal" |
Straight Shooter |
Apr-21-05 11:29 AM |
#76 |
   
sniffa's trademark |
antigone382 |
Apr-21-05 11:33 AM |
#78 |
  
And that's on the FAQ? |
kiki |
Apr-21-05 11:43 AM |
#80 |
  
What didn't get emphasized in 2000... |
Virginian |
Apr-21-05 12:00 PM |
#83 |
 
The real question is, will it be used by Dem Pres Candidate "X" in '08? |
BrainRants |
Apr-21-05 07:30 AM |
#8 |
 
If he had, would it have been covered? |
Pigwidgeon |
Apr-21-05 07:35 AM |
#11 |
  
I think THAT would've been reported. |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-21-05 07:54 AM |
#14 |
  
It would have been covered and twisted... |
Ilsa |
Apr-21-05 08:49 AM |
#29 |
   
Yeah, that's probably more to the truth. |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-21-05 09:01 AM |
#33 |
  
Oh! It Would Have Been Covered Alright! |
maxrandb |
Apr-21-05 09:49 AM |
#50 |
 
Wow |
Frances |
Apr-21-05 11:13 AM |
#68 |
 
that's some stunning writing. |
SlavesandBulldozers |
Apr-21-05 06:11 PM |
#127 |
 
You nailed it! |
Career Prole |
Apr-21-05 06:21 PM |
#129 |
 
Actually, we could have used that 20 years ago. n/t |
Freedom_from_Chains |
Apr-21-05 08:09 AM |
#18 |
 
I think Kerry got himself an education when he ran. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Apr-21-05 08:10 AM |
#19 |
  
I recall that Kerry was caught on tape |
LibDemAlways |
Apr-21-05 09:49 AM |
#49 |
 
Yes! Total agreement here. |
glitch |
Apr-21-05 11:17 AM |
#71 |
 
He said, "these people are the biggest bunch of crooks and |
sfexpat2000 |
Apr-21-05 01:02 PM |
#89 |
 
agree - the learning curve |
xxqqqzme |
Apr-21-05 01:17 PM |
#93 |
 
We could also use some info about Bush's Consumption Tax |
nodictators |
Apr-21-05 08:46 AM |
#26 |
 
Funny thing is...I heard him speak right before the election... |
Hong Kong Cavalier |
Apr-21-05 10:02 AM |
#55 |
  
exactly |
ginnyinWI |
Apr-21-05 01:44 PM |
#102 |
   
Always "summarizing" Kerry, and Cherry-Picking the best Bush Quotes |
emulatorloo |
Apr-21-05 04:01 PM |
#117 |
  
Exactly |
AlmightyTallest |
Apr-22-05 01:42 AM |
#152 |
 
Aye! |
chimpsrsmarter |
Apr-21-05 10:53 AM |
#66 |
 
No kidding. |
calimary |
Apr-21-05 11:21 AM |
#72 |
 
You mean like at the convention |
WilliamPitt |
Apr-21-05 01:25 PM |
#96 |
  
No, like he said explicitly here. |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-21-05 02:04 PM |
#108 |
 
You know, maybe this is good though. |
jayctravis |
Apr-21-05 04:20 PM |
#120 |
 
Kerry would not have been able to say this... |
Writer |
Apr-21-05 07:02 PM |
#134 |
 
I agree - last year was the best time for this, but I welcome it anytime |
hatrack |
Apr-21-05 07:23 PM |
#136 |
 
I wanted a carnivorous, "Wolverine from the X-Men" John Kerry. |
Bush_Eats_Beef |
Apr-21-05 07:28 PM |
#138 |

I truly agree. |
Vash the Stampede |
Apr-22-05 11:32 AM |
#164 |

Obviously Kerry has yet to speak to Ratzinger! |
IndianaGreen |
Apr-21-05 07:26 AM |
#4 |
 
He needs to moon the Bush lackey, Ratzigwhatever his name is! |
NVMojo |
Apr-21-05 07:31 AM |
#10 |
  
Word |
AlmightyTallest |
Apr-22-05 01:47 AM |
#153 |
 
You mean PAPA RATZI.....he's pandering to worldwide conservative arm-twist |
chomskysright |
Apr-21-05 11:33 AM |
#77 |

``We're talking about values? You show me where in the New Testament..... |
LynneSin |
Apr-21-05 07:27 AM |
#6 |
 
Where were y'all during the '04 and '00 campaigns? |
Sick_of_Rethuggery |
Apr-21-05 09:05 AM |
#34 |

Thank You! Remember Kerry Using The Passage About Deeds Over Words? |
cryingshame |
Apr-21-05 09:17 AM |
#39 |
 
Absolutely! |
Sick_of_Rethuggery |
Apr-21-05 09:20 AM |
#42 |

I think both Gore and Kerry ran weak campaigns. |
smoogatz |
Apr-21-05 10:24 AM |
#62 |

Maybe so. |
Sick_of_Rethuggery |
Apr-21-05 11:37 AM |
#79 |

Thanks for your post |
Laurab |
Apr-21-05 02:43 PM |
#114 |

Nominate this up to the Front Page!!! Go Kerry!!! Give them a reality |
NVMojo |
Apr-21-05 07:30 AM |
#7 |
 
Nominated. |
cryingshame |
Apr-21-05 09:18 AM |
#41 |
 
Is that... |
Steely_Dan |
Apr-21-05 10:07 AM |
#59 |

God is very useful... |
Branjor |
Apr-21-05 07:31 AM |
#9 |
 
Very true |
jimshoes |
Apr-21-05 07:42 AM |
#12 |

Good for Kerry! |
Jawja |
Apr-21-05 08:02 AM |
#15 |
 
over the meaning of religion and it's place in politics. |
Freedom_from_Chains |
Apr-21-05 08:12 AM |
#20 |

It's nice to see Kerry finding his "inner warrior"... |
sadiesworld |
Apr-21-05 08:12 AM |
#21 |
 
You mean his balls? |
wallwriter |
Apr-21-05 08:56 AM |
#32 |
 
See my post above... |
Sick_of_Rethuggery |
Apr-21-05 09:35 AM |
#46 |

Oh boy, you fucking showed me. |
sadiesworld |
Apr-21-05 10:02 AM |
#54 |

yeah, sadiesworld, did you walk a mile in his shoes when he was |
NVMojo |
Apr-21-05 10:06 AM |
#58 |

Could someone explain to me |
tavalon |
Apr-21-05 08:16 AM |
#22 |
 
I think we can see one reason is "The Scream" |
Patiod |
Apr-21-05 08:46 AM |
#27 |
  
I think this shit started in 1972 |
Art_from_Ark |
Apr-21-05 09:13 AM |
#38 |
 
they do need to be careful. |
left15 |
Apr-21-05 09:22 AM |
#43 |
 
Kerry spoke of doing good DEEDS over pious words in the campaign. |
blm |
Apr-21-05 09:36 AM |
#47 |
  
The media slobbered all over Smirky |
politicasista |
Apr-21-05 02:29 PM |
#113 |
 
Polls. Swing voters. Out-of-touch advisors. |
quiet.american |
Apr-21-05 10:10 AM |
#60 |

Sounds like Kerry is turning into the next Gore... |
Dawgs |
Apr-21-05 08:43 AM |
#25 |
 
See my post above... |
Sick_of_Rethuggery |
Apr-21-05 09:38 AM |
#48 |
 
...except he hasn't grown what i call the "sad beard" |
pazarus |
Apr-21-05 10:03 AM |
#56 |

Sign the petition to Repub Senators |
ihaveaquestion |
Apr-21-05 09:13 AM |
#36 |

It's really too bad.. |
sendero |
Apr-21-05 09:25 AM |
#44 |
 
Look at the 2004 election results threads he did win by a margin too large |
dandrhesse |
Apr-21-05 11:25 AM |
#73 |

EXACTLY.. why do you think WE KNOW... huge swings in paperless areas!.. |
Griffy |
Apr-21-05 01:48 PM |
#104 |

also the job approval polls! 43% gee do you think something is amiss? |
dandrhesse |
Apr-21-05 11:35 PM |
#147 |

Just a thought |
oneighty |
Apr-21-05 09:25 AM |
#45 |
 
I dont really feel threatened... |
Sick_of_Rethuggery |
Apr-21-05 09:53 AM |
#52 |
  
But is a slippery slope |
oneighty |
Apr-21-05 10:06 AM |
#57 |
 
The slippery slope is a very real problem in the long run. |
Sick_of_Rethuggery |
Apr-21-05 11:17 AM |
#70 |
 
About 34 AD? |
GirlinContempt |
Apr-21-05 01:49 PM |
#105 |

Clone High! |
AlmightyTallest |
Apr-22-05 01:59 AM |
#155 |

Only Repukes have a pipeline to the deity giving them insight to what God |
indepat |
Apr-21-05 09:50 AM |
#51 |

Republicans like to play God |
Gregorian |
Apr-21-05 10:00 AM |
#53 |

Whoo Hoo! Glad to hear it! Go Kerry, Go Kerry, Go Kerry! |
TheGoldenRule |
Apr-21-05 10:22 AM |
#61 |

Prez Kerry rocks! |
sabra |
Apr-21-05 10:32 AM |
#64 |

You tell 'em John - my thoughts exactly! |
Mr_Spock |
Apr-21-05 10:51 AM |
#65 |

He's been getting fucking tough lately, what's going on? |
dhinojosa |
Apr-21-05 11:03 AM |
#67 |
 
Some would say it's just a show, but I honestly think |
BlueIris |
Apr-21-05 01:18 PM |
#94 |

Gee whiz, is that a woody I see there Johnny? |
seeker4ever |
Apr-21-05 11:13 AM |
#69 |

To all the people wondering where the fire was during the campaign |
glitch |
Apr-21-05 11:26 AM |
#74 |
 
Thanks :-) |
Sick_of_Rethuggery |
Apr-21-05 03:50 PM |
#116 |

You keep up the great work ! |
glitch |
Apr-21-05 04:10 PM |
#118 |

fundies POV |
Just a guy_withaVOTE |
Apr-21-05 11:27 AM |
#75 |
 
As a Christian myself I can tell you I am disgusted with the way |
mahina |
Apr-21-05 02:12 PM |
#110 |
 
Oh, really? |
CAcyclist |
Apr-21-05 05:51 PM |
#125 |

The day we begin to uphold the Constitution. MNA May 2 2005 |
understandinglife |
Apr-21-05 11:51 AM |
#81 |

GOOD for him... |
WHAT |
Apr-21-05 12:14 PM |
#84 |

Remember... no matter how great Democrat cadidate was during |
Rainscents |
Apr-21-05 12:24 PM |
#85 |

I love kerry (and Gore) but |
burythehatchet |
Apr-21-05 12:31 PM |
#86 |

Excellent! |
8_year_nightmare |
Apr-21-05 12:56 PM |
#88 |
 
Nice sig! Mind if I steal it? |
i miss america |
Apr-21-05 01:34 PM |
#98 |

I'd be honored... |
8_year_nightmare |
Apr-21-05 11:57 PM |
#149 |

I take back all bad things I've said about Kerry... |
hopein08 |
Apr-21-05 01:04 PM |
#90 |
 
Aw. n/t |
BlueIris |
Apr-21-05 01:22 PM |
#95 |
 
The MSM is mean |
politicasista |
Apr-21-05 02:26 PM |
#112 |
 
They'll flame anyway |
AlmightyTallest |
Apr-22-05 02:05 AM |
#156 |

Thank you, Senator K. SANITY PLEASE, GOP. |
BlueIris |
Apr-21-05 01:14 PM |
#91 |

Wonderful! Thank you Senator Kerry |
i miss america |
Apr-21-05 01:36 PM |
#99 |

this is so stupid |
JI7 |
Apr-21-05 02:01 PM |
#106 |

Kick 'em in the ass, Senator. |
d_b |
Apr-21-05 02:02 PM |
#107 |

He's absolutely right, and it's about time someone said it. |
Arkana |
Apr-21-05 02:13 PM |
#111 |

Right! Especially since the * family is telling the head of his church |
demo dutch |
Apr-21-05 02:49 PM |
#115 |

Nice! |
Zhade |
Apr-21-05 04:18 PM |
#119 |

Kerry is right-- I hope he repeats this loud and often. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-21-05 04:48 PM |
#122 |

If more Democrats started talking like that, we would be back on the path |
Democat |
Apr-21-05 06:07 PM |
#126 |
 
you can see the benefits of having Dean as chairman already |
SlavesandBulldozers |
Apr-21-05 06:15 PM |
#128 |
  
You have to be kidding me |
WildEyedLiberal |
Apr-21-05 11:42 PM |
#148 |
 
i don't think it's just Dean |
SlavesandBulldozers |
Apr-22-05 09:30 PM |
#170 |
 
BULLS EYE- straight, blunt, plain talking is all we need. |
Dr Fate |
Apr-22-05 01:58 AM |
#154 |

Radical for Jesus |
ynot |
Apr-21-05 06:35 PM |
#130 |
 
AMEN! |
Rainscents |
Apr-21-05 07:59 PM |
#143 |

Outstanding |
seito |
Apr-21-05 07:21 PM |
#135 |

I'm sick and tired of that bunch, too! You go Prez Kerry! |
AuntiBush |
Apr-21-05 07:46 PM |
#141 |

Well said, Senator! |
Vektor |
Apr-21-05 10:02 PM |
#145 |

Thank God, President Kerry is still out there fighting... |
YvonneCa |
Apr-21-05 10:25 PM |
#146 |
 
President Kerry will kick their torts to the curve..... |
LatePeriduct |
Apr-22-05 06:09 AM |
#163 |

who are they to tell us what god wants?? |
yorkiemommie1 |
Apr-22-05 12:05 AM |
#150 |
 
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Name removed |
Apr-22-05 02:11 AM |
#157 |

Welcome to DU, but... |
Pinboy |
Apr-22-05 02:48 AM |
#158 |

Deleted message |
Name removed |
Apr-22-05 02:56 AM |
#159 |

Yes, good bye! |
Swamp Rat |
Apr-22-05 03:00 AM |
#160 |

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Apr-22-05 03:02 AM |
#161 |

kick |
LatePeriduct |
Apr-22-05 06:04 PM |
#167 |

the politics of annoyance might be a good strategy |
Strawman |
Apr-22-05 08:29 PM |
#168 |

It dawned on me today what may be going on here... |
Gman |
Apr-22-05 09:17 PM |
#169 |