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Aid worker uncovered America's secret tally of Iraqi civilian deathsUpdated at 1:30 PM
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Edited on Tue Apr-19-05 07:35 PM by cal04
A week before she was killed by a suicide bomber, humanitarian worker Marla Ruzicka forced military commanders to admit they did keep records of Iraqi civilians killed by US forces. Tommy Franks, the former head of US Central Command, famously said the US army "don't do body counts", despite a requirement to do so by the Geneva Conventions.

But in an essay Ms Ruzicka wrote a week before her death on Saturday and published yesterday, the 28-year-old revealed that a Brigadier General told her it was "standard operating procedure" for US troops to file a report when they shoot a non-combatant. She obtained figures for the number of civilians killed in Baghdad between 28 February and 5 April, and discovered that 29 had been killed in firefights involving US forces and insurgents. This was four times the number of Iraqi police killed.

"These statistics demonstrate that the US military can and does track civilian casualties," she wrote. "Troops on the ground keep these records because they recognise they have a responsibility to review each action taken and that it is in their interest to minimise mistakes, especially since winning the hearts and minds of Iraqis is a key component of their strategy." Sam Zia-Zarifi, deputy director of the Asia division of Human Rights Watch, the group for which Ms Ruzicka wrote the report, said her discovery "was very important because it allows the victims to start demanding compensation". He added: "At a policy level they have never admitted they keep these figures."

Exactly how many Iraqi civilians have been killed in the last two years is unclear. Iraq Body Count, a group that monitors casualty reports, says at least 17,384 have died. But the group bases its totals only on deaths reported by the media, and says it can therefore only "be a sample" of the total actually killed. Its website says: "It is likely that many if not most civilian casualties will go unreported by the media. That is the sad nature of war."

rest of the article/The public must know how many have died'

This is an edited extract of an article written by Marla Ruzicka a week before her death:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.j...
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  Aid worker uncovered America's secret tally of Iraqi civilian deaths cal04  Apr-19-05 07:33 PM   #0 
   Sounds like she was getting at the truth  Peake   Apr-19-05 07:36 PM   #1 
   That's what I said YESTERDAY here....  radwriter0555   Apr-19-05 09:51 PM   #24 
      like Guillani, the Italian reporter  chomskysright   Apr-20-05 03:20 PM   #76 
      Missed that one completely. Archived, excellent.  Peake   Apr-20-05 06:21 PM   #80 
   "killed by a suicide bomber"  leftofcool   Apr-19-05 07:36 PM   #2 
   17,384 -- that has to be low.  xchrom   Apr-19-05 07:37 PM   #3 
   Iraq Bodycount  Frederik   Apr-19-05 08:23 PM   #13 
   Yes, imagine doing a count of murdered Americans by press clippings.  daleo   Apr-20-05 01:13 AM   #35 
   Keep in mind it's only a tally of reported deaths in combat  Julius Civitatus   Apr-20-05 09:40 AM   #48 
   she was offed by the bushies...she got too close. This is Standard  goodboy   Apr-19-05 07:39 PM   #4 
   pentagon to woodward  RedSock   Apr-19-05 07:47 PM   #5 
   But that would result in an unmitigated nightmare of opposition  Peake   Apr-19-05 07:49 PM   #7 
   They Probably killed her.  saigon68   Apr-19-05 08:37 PM   #18 
      Yes, they probably did. A liberal activist in a war zone is an inviting  Zorra   Apr-20-05 12:15 AM   #30 
         she wouldn't have been the 1st journalist targeted by the bushies.  goodboy   Apr-20-05 12:40 AM   #32 
         It will be like "THE GOOD OLD DAYS" in central amerika again  saigon68   Apr-20-05 07:13 AM   #38 
   Wow, the media's all over this!  gratuitous   Apr-19-05 07:49 PM   #6 
   I'm not one of these conspiracy theorists  dwickham   Apr-19-05 07:50 PM   #8 
   If it was orchestrated, we will never know.  lostnfound   Apr-19-05 08:35 PM   #17 
   Just like throughout history..  jasop   Apr-20-05 08:55 PM   #88 
   This doesn't appear to be anywhere else on the web  Peake   Apr-19-05 07:57 PM   #9 
   The Independent  Frederik   Apr-19-05 08:25 PM   #15 
   Aid worker's words - just a week before she was killed  cal04   Apr-19-05 10:13 PM   #25 
      on Yahoo  inchhigh   Apr-20-05 09:27 AM   #46 
      Rate it up  Synnical   Apr-20-05 07:20 PM   #83 
   they have to do body counts  cap   Apr-19-05 07:59 PM   #10 
   Nominate This!!! Nominate in the name of all the innocents!!! This is BIG!  frictionlessO   Apr-19-05 08:11 PM   #11 
   Done n/t  Barrett808   Apr-20-05 01:16 AM   #36 
   Oh no  Frederik   Apr-19-05 08:21 PM   #12 
   How funny, it was the first thought I had.  liberalla   Apr-20-05 01:06 AM   #33 
   Well, despite all of the naysayers here yesterday and Sunday....  Shakespeare   Apr-19-05 08:24 PM   #14 
   Fuck'em anyway.  JohnyCanuck   Apr-19-05 08:31 PM   #16 
   Naysayers...  yibbehobba   Apr-20-05 08:36 AM   #45 
      No; more like the immediate attempt to silence anyone...  Shakespeare   Apr-20-05 12:46 PM   #63 
         Who's being silenced?  yibbehobba   Apr-20-05 12:53 PM   #64 
            That's exactly the thread I'm referring to.  Shakespeare   Apr-20-05 01:33 PM   #67 
               I'm sorry, but...  yibbehobba   Apr-20-05 01:59 PM   #71 
                  Don't be sorry.  Shakespeare   Apr-20-05 02:39 PM   #74 
                  Yes, but on the subject of an "official" story...  yibbehobba   Apr-20-05 02:48 PM   #75 
                  Nick Berg,...  Just Me   Apr-20-05 06:39 PM   #81 
   said it before...this is negroponte's MO  burythehatchet   Apr-19-05 08:38 PM   #19 
   Last night on the NewsHour they covered the story of her death.  Wilms   Apr-19-05 08:51 PM   #20 
   PBS won't make any statements  dwickham   Apr-19-05 09:12 PM   #22 
      Of course they won't.  Wilms   Apr-19-05 10:20 PM   #27 
   This was on Oregon's very own Thom Hartmann Show This am.  rucky   Apr-19-05 09:12 PM   #21 
   Making me almost as angry  ovidsen   Apr-19-05 09:46 PM   #23 
   Sgrena...Ruzicka...more blood on the Propagandist's hands  Roland99   Apr-19-05 10:13 PM   #26 
   Precisely. MNA May 2 2005....  understandinglife   Apr-20-05 12:26 AM   #31 
   When I saw the name in the press  kineneb   Apr-19-05 10:24 PM   #28 
   When is it ever going to end?  AnnitaR   Apr-19-05 11:43 PM   #29 
   Quite Soon...  AndyTiedye   Apr-20-05 01:24 AM   #37 
   Adds some reasonable suspicion that there may be more than meets the eye.  daleo   Apr-20-05 01:09 AM   #34 
   So far the news reports have presented contradictory information--  mistertrickster   Apr-20-05 10:56 AM   #51 
   My very first thought when I read of her death  leftchick   Apr-20-05 11:01 AM   #52 
      DAMN!  Sequoia   Apr-20-05 12:22 PM   #62 
   KICK.  redacted   Apr-20-05 07:36 AM   #39 
   ???  yibbehobba   Apr-20-05 08:01 AM   #40 
   If she was on to something...  confludemocrat   Apr-20-05 08:14 AM   #41 
   Westerners civilians die all the time in Iraq.  yibbehobba   Apr-20-05 08:33 AM   #43 
      !Good GRIEF!!! What an assertion! What an argument! GOT PROOF?  Just Me   Apr-20-05 07:02 PM   #82 
   I have heard this reported both as car bomb and/or suicide bomb  NNN0LHI   Apr-20-05 08:30 AM   #42 
   The shit hit the fan in Vietnam...  yibbehobba   Apr-20-05 08:35 AM   #44 
      Okay, we already got one thread locked on this, so let's keep it civil  mistertrickster   Apr-20-05 11:12 AM   #54 
      Ok...  yibbehobba   Apr-20-05 11:33 AM   #56 
         So all those people never travel in private cars? Why then did Marla  mistertrickster   Apr-20-05 11:45 AM   #59 
            And again, I dispute the point...  yibbehobba   Apr-20-05 12:20 PM   #61 
               London in the blitz--excellent analogy. How many Londoners in the  mistertrickster   Apr-20-05 01:36 PM   #68 
                  Fine, fine.  yibbehobba   Apr-20-05 02:23 PM   #72 
      And You Have Evidence that They Didn't?  CTPatriot   Apr-20-05 01:22 PM   #66 
         Ahhh...  yibbehobba   Apr-20-05 02:39 PM   #73 
            Oh, but yes you HAVE...  CTPatriot   Apr-21-05 01:11 PM   #89 
   Any article written would have a large amount of supporting  NCevilDUer   Apr-20-05 10:48 AM   #50 
      ...  yibbehobba   Apr-20-05 11:25 AM   #55 
   Negroponte loathed Marla  sattahipdeep   Apr-20-05 09:36 AM   #47 
   well there you have it. Now we know who ordered the hit...  leftchick   Apr-20-05 01:54 PM   #70 
   Negroponte wasn't ambassador in Afghanistan  Roland99   Apr-20-05 07:29 PM   #84 
   How can any sane person...  DirtyDawg   Apr-20-05 10:03 AM   #49 
   They don't believe the Bush line of BS either  NNN0LHI   Apr-20-05 11:10 AM   #53 
   Disgusting, but nothing we already didn't know.  UCLA Dem   Apr-20-05 11:40 AM   #57 
   Of course they keep bodycounts  DrDebug   Apr-20-05 11:44 AM   #58 
   It doesn't look like coincidence to me. Sgrena and Marla and who knows  bobthedrummer   Apr-20-05 11:49 AM   #60 
   the truth comes from angels  madrchsod   Apr-20-05 01:02 PM   #65 
   Gee, there's a surprise. Not.  Kool Kitty   Apr-20-05 01:44 PM   #69 
   Marla was a very special young lady  cal04   Apr-20-05 04:53 PM   #77 
   Truly one of the best activists we've had. Peace loving, empathetic, and  frictionlessO   Apr-20-05 05:19 PM   #78 
   Asia division of Human Rights Watch  cal04   Apr-20-05 06:14 PM   #79 
   The third and fourth paragraphs really say it all don't they....  frictionlessO   Apr-20-05 07:30 PM   #85 
   This came from the archived message  KalicoKitty   Apr-20-05 07:49 PM   #87 
   They were separate from the convoy?  Roland99   Apr-20-05 07:35 PM   #86 
 

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