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livinginphotographs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 05:22 PM
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97. No, because my patronizing of an industry which tests on animals
encourages them to continue testing on animals. I don't delude myself into thinking that my actions don't have butterfly effect-style consequences for the rest of the world. So they both harm another creature. Where we disagree is how we value which creatures.

I can't answer yes or no, though. I've never been in that situation, I'd have to know specifics (how serious the conditions were, whether i had six months to live, etc.). Hell, if I had only a month to live, I'd say to hell with the drugs and go on a one-month drug and alcohol binge.

But it's just like the equally ridiculous question of, "If you saw a dog and a human baby drowning, which one would you save?" of course assuming that since vegans hate all humans and only like animals, we'd let the poor wittle baby drown and save the stupid dog.

So which of your kids would you kill?
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  -KFC in Texas Greets PETA With Sprinklers seriousstan  Apr-14-05 03:16 PM   #0 
  - Dupe  tuvor   Apr-14-05 03:17 PM   #1 
  - It has not been posted in LBN so it is not a dupe.  seriousstan   Apr-14-05 03:18 PM   #2 
     - Besides, we can't get enough of the man "who eats beef"  Squatch   Apr-14-05 03:19 PM   #3 
     - That was my favorite part  seriousstan   Apr-14-05 03:19 PM   #4 
        - Hey, my name is Steve, my friends call me "The Man Who Eats Beef"  Squatch   Apr-14-05 03:20 PM   #5 
           - There is a war going on out there you know !  nolabels   Apr-14-05 10:39 PM   #51 
              - A poor photoshop job  nine30   Apr-16-05 09:37 AM   #134 
     - Whatever you say. n/t  tuvor   Apr-14-05 03:23 PM   #6 
  - This treatment is way too humane.  damntexdem   Apr-14-05 04:14 PM   #7 
  - ???  neuvocat   Apr-14-05 04:28 PM   #9 
  - your enemy -- not mine  xchrom   Apr-14-05 06:14 PM   #16 
  - How is Peta the enemy  MeinaShaw   Apr-14-05 10:49 PM   #53 
  - I wonder when people who fight for the more humane treatment of animals  DeaconBlues   Apr-14-05 07:51 PM   #25 
  - But large corporations who abuse animals needlessly  livinginphotographs   Apr-14-05 07:58 PM   #28 
  - Sounds Like They Make You Feel Guilty For Eating Chicken  mhr   Apr-14-05 08:16 PM   #30 
  - Good for him. As a franchise owner, he doesn't  Redstone   Apr-14-05 04:27 PM   #8 
  - "Business"  nine30   Apr-14-05 04:33 PM   #10 
  - Yes, business. The business of feeding  Redstone   Apr-14-05 04:47 PM   #11 
  - psssst....  Dave Reynolds   Apr-14-05 06:22 PM   #18 
  - Nothing wrong with eating meat if ..  nine30   Apr-14-05 08:45 PM   #38 
  - Tibetan Buddhist?  Redstone   Apr-14-05 10:08 PM   #48 
  - And talking sense to the meat eating fundies doesn't work either.  Lindacooks   Apr-14-05 08:50 PM   #40 
  - Oh, no. Uh-huh. You can't equate the two.  Redstone   Apr-14-05 09:18 PM   #44 
     - No. You are wrong.  Lindacooks   Apr-15-05 01:56 AM   #56 
     - Wrong again, as usual, Redstone  DeaconBlues   Apr-15-05 03:35 AM   #59 
     - You seem to be giving a lecture right now?  Sterling   Apr-15-05 08:34 PM   #114 
        - What, because I point out that vegetarians and  Redstone   Apr-15-05 09:37 PM   #116 
           - Maybe the way you always show up in these threads  livinginphotographs   Apr-16-05 06:18 AM   #125 
              - Gee, if I didn't know better,  Redstone   Apr-16-05 08:45 AM   #132 
  - Meatless fundies  Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin   Apr-15-05 11:45 PM   #118 
  - "feeding" ?  nine30   Apr-14-05 08:39 PM   #35 
     - Ohhhhhhhkay.  Redstone   Apr-14-05 08:44 PM   #37 
     - Yeah,,  nine30   Apr-14-05 08:46 PM   #39 
     - Sharks don't relish humans  jmowreader   Apr-15-05 08:34 PM   #113 
  - What, KFC serves fetuses now?  Pigwidgeon   Apr-14-05 04:48 PM   #12 
  - I can't wait for you to complain about unemployment next.  seriousstan   Apr-14-05 05:01 PM   #13 
  - Brutally Murdered Victims?  YellowRubberDuckie   Apr-16-05 07:42 AM   #127 
  - What franchise owner? Are you making that up?  The Stranger   Apr-14-05 05:38 PM   #14 
  - Yes, he does have control of how chickens are killed  DeaconBlues   Apr-14-05 07:49 PM   #24 
     - Logical fallacies, one by one:  Redstone   Apr-14-05 08:34 PM   #34 
        - Only logical fallacies are on your part  DeaconBlues   Apr-15-05 03:29 AM   #58 
           - If you are on my property  northzax   Apr-15-05 04:11 PM   #70 
           - Why, thank you, northzax.  Redstone   Apr-15-05 05:00 PM   #85 
           - So, he should abandon his business  Redstone   Apr-15-05 05:05 PM   #87 
  - Good...  Jack_DeLeon   Apr-14-05 05:43 PM   #15 
  - ''teh stupid''?  xchrom   Apr-14-05 06:15 PM   #17 
  - Teh exactly.  livinginphotographs   Apr-14-05 07:58 PM   #29 
     - OH NOESS!!!!  Jack_DeLeon   Apr-14-05 08:31 PM   #31 
  - PETA = People Eat Tasty Animals  lonelysoul2020   Apr-14-05 08:41 PM   #36 
     - Wow, creative.  livinginphotographs   Apr-14-05 10:33 PM   #49 
     - EYFWTG  NIGHT TRIPPER   Apr-14-05 10:58 PM   #54 
  - I wonder how much our PETA supporters here  Dave Reynolds   Apr-14-05 06:25 PM   #19 
  - "I wonder how much [sic] of our PETA bashers here"  The Stranger   Apr-14-05 06:34 PM   #20 
  - I do not exhibit ire or vitriol,  Dave Reynolds   Apr-14-05 06:39 PM   #21 
  - mmmmmmmmmmm.....  Jack_DeLeon   Apr-14-05 08:33 PM   #32 
  - So you think it's okay to torture chickens?  livinginphotographs   Apr-14-05 10:33 PM   #50 
  - No, people "bash" PETA because  Redstone   Apr-14-05 09:23 PM   #45 
  - Nonsense. Peope want to exist in a state of denial as to what  The Stranger   Apr-15-05 08:02 AM   #61 
  - And that is true too..  nine30   Apr-15-05 02:42 PM   #63 
  - I agree with that..  nine30   Apr-15-05 02:30 PM   #62 
  - Maybe you needed a reminder  livinginphotographs   Apr-15-05 03:55 PM   #68 
  - you talking to me ? :-)  nine30   Apr-15-05 04:32 PM   #74 
     - Oops. Sorry.  livinginphotographs   Apr-15-05 04:33 PM   #75 
  - Not a bad idea, but it wouldn't bother me.  Redstone   Apr-15-05 06:36 PM   #108 
     - Fallacy  nine30   Apr-15-05 08:20 PM   #111 
        - Well, hell, I was just trying to be agreeable.  Redstone   Apr-15-05 08:33 PM   #112 
  - You are correct Redstone. Let me  pokercat999   Apr-15-05 04:49 PM   #81 
  - Well, if God hadn't wanted us to eat animals,  Redstone   Apr-15-05 06:23 PM   #106 
  - Well, I am with Petp,  retnavyliberal   Apr-15-05 08:59 PM   #115 
  - PETA is as annoying as pro-lifers.  Prisonerohio   Apr-16-05 05:20 AM   #121 
  - Read the post again. He didn't say  Redstone   Apr-14-05 10:45 PM   #52 
  - PETA=saints  NIGHT TRIPPER   Apr-14-05 10:59 PM   #55 
  - what a weird question.  xchrom   Apr-14-05 06:54 PM   #22 
  - PETA  magnussun   Apr-14-05 07:26 PM   #23 
  - I'm sorry for shouting but  livinginphotographs   Apr-14-05 07:55 PM   #26 
     - DUers parroting Right Wing talking points about PETA --  The Stranger   Apr-15-05 03:26 PM   #66 
     - huh, really?  northzax   Apr-15-05 04:21 PM   #71 
        - That's why they bring their pets to work.  livinginphotographs   Apr-15-05 04:38 PM   #77 
        - there is a difference between birth control  northzax   Apr-15-05 04:52 PM   #82 
           - I explained already.  livinginphotographs   Apr-15-05 04:57 PM   #83 
           - so when PETA says  northzax   Apr-15-05 05:05 PM   #88 
              - As of this point, I wouldn't worry about extinction.  livinginphotographs   Apr-15-05 05:15 PM   #91 
                 - so you don't actually believe in what you're preaching?  northzax   Apr-15-05 05:17 PM   #92 
                    - I didn't say that.  livinginphotographs   Apr-15-05 05:19 PM   #95 
                       - ok, what does PETA say?  northzax   Apr-15-05 05:21 PM   #96 
                          - This is why I hate these threads.  livinginphotographs   Apr-15-05 05:26 PM   #98 
                             - "I'm not a member of PETA, and don't particularly like them as an organiza  pokercat999   Apr-16-05 04:05 AM   #120 
                                - You know why you can't give me the phone number?  livinginphotographs   Apr-16-05 06:13 AM   #123 
           - Nonsense.  The Stranger   Apr-15-05 05:46 PM   #104 
        - Congratulations.  The Stranger   Apr-15-05 05:44 PM   #103 
  - Mr. Olivo is a prick.  livinginphotographs   Apr-14-05 07:57 PM   #27 
  - Fast Food is Unhealthy  blue northern   Apr-14-05 08:34 PM   #33 
  - That's pretty damn funny, and clever as well.  Redstone   Apr-14-05 08:51 PM   #41 
     - The Arrogant Worms  blue northern   Apr-14-05 09:01 PM   #42 
        - Thanks for the link,  Redstone   Apr-14-05 09:48 PM   #46 
           - Me too.  DulceDecorum   Apr-14-05 10:01 PM   #47 
  - One of the dingdongs from PETA was wearing a chicken suit,  Redstone   Apr-14-05 09:13 PM   #43 
  - I hear chicken suit man got lost on the way to the free republic rally.  darkism   Apr-15-05 02:33 AM   #57 
  - The question of meat eating aside  FLSurfer   Apr-15-05 05:08 AM   #60 
  - My question also - Is soaking someone assault? At the least, the  yellowcanine   Apr-15-05 02:50 PM   #65 
  - Especially if they "slipped" and hurt themselves.  Rufus T. Firefly   Apr-15-05 03:52 PM   #67 
  - Bwahahahaha! n/t  Lilith Velkor   Apr-15-05 02:48 PM   #64 
  - Yeah, torturing chickens is hilarious!  livinginphotographs   Apr-15-05 04:00 PM   #69 
     - you take this a little seriously, you know what?  northzax   Apr-15-05 04:23 PM   #72 
     - Yeah, we get accused of that all the time.  livinginphotographs   Apr-15-05 04:32 PM   #73 
     - I'm a meat-eater, but I still support PETA  Rufus T. Firefly   Apr-15-05 04:37 PM   #76 
     - There are many employees of PETA who are not vegetarian.  livinginphotographs   Apr-15-05 04:39 PM   #78 
        - I've considered going Vegan,  Rufus T. Firefly   Apr-15-05 04:41 PM   #79 
           - Going from Big Macs to vegan is a bit of a leap.  livinginphotographs   Apr-15-05 04:48 PM   #80 
     - wel, if you're comparing it to racism  northzax   Apr-15-05 04:59 PM   #84 
        - These are just extreme examples....  livinginphotographs   Apr-15-05 05:05 PM   #86 
        - hmm, for a vegan, you sure throw a lot of ducks around.  northzax   Apr-15-05 05:09 PM   #90 
           - Do you have kids?  livinginphotographs   Apr-15-05 05:17 PM   #93 
              - ahh, big difference  northzax   Apr-15-05 05:18 PM   #94 
                 - No, because my patronizing of an industry which tests on animals  livinginphotographs   Apr-15-05 05:22 PM   #97 
                    - I'm not the one advocating that a choice needs to be made  northzax   Apr-15-05 05:28 PM   #99 
                       - Exactly. It's a hypothetical.  livinginphotographs   Apr-15-05 05:30 PM   #101 
                          - This discussion reminds me of one I once saw on TV  mmmbeer   Apr-16-05 07:56 AM   #128 
        - "heart surgery that was perfected on animals..."  Redstone   Apr-15-05 06:28 PM   #107 
     - So THAT makes torturing chickens hilarious?  The Stranger   Apr-15-05 05:42 PM   #102 
     - So are aborted fetuses and hostage beheadings  Lilith Velkor   Apr-15-05 05:06 PM   #89 
        - So you think aborted fetuses and beheadings are funny?  livinginphotographs   Apr-15-05 05:29 PM   #100 
        - Of course.  Lilith Velkor   Apr-15-05 06:18 PM   #105 
        - exactly  BadNews   Apr-15-05 06:57 PM   #109 
           - Carnivores?  crowcalling   Apr-15-05 10:58 PM   #117 
              - Humans are nothing but slaves to instinct, didn't you know?  livinginphotographs   Apr-16-05 06:17 AM   #124 
  - Forget the chickens for a minute. How about some feelings for  Redstone   Apr-15-05 07:32 PM   #110 
  - I met Harlan Sanders when I was 16.  Carolab   Apr-16-05 12:22 AM   #119 
  - Actually, he did kind of spit on them when he was alive.  Redstone   Apr-16-05 09:06 AM   #133 
  - Did PETA ever take a position  davhill   Apr-16-05 05:35 AM   #122 
  - I am sick and tired of all this f**king PETA bashing!!!!  RebelOne   Apr-16-05 07:03 AM   #126 
     - Having a heart..  crowcalling   Apr-16-05 07:57 AM   #129 
     - Tells you something about Democrats these days.  shockra   Apr-16-05 08:02 AM   #130 
     - I have to say I'm surprised at some of the vitriol towards PETA here  mmmbeer   Apr-16-05 08:12 AM   #131 
 

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