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Fri Apr-08-05 08:53 PM
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In addition to the above on the large proportion of early cases being children under the age of 5, it would be helpful to know the extent to which these were infants and non-infants. Different kinds of risk factors you would look for in the two groups. I would also look to see if any sex differential among children.
Additionally, I would want to know if there was some other common factor such as:
*living in an institution,
*going to a common ante-natal clinic etc., where they had any kind of invasive procedure, (including injections),
*recent repatriation into Angola from areas further north and east, and,
*not only if recently there were childhood immunizations given in Uige area, but even more importantly,
*whether or not the practice of folk medicine there (as is the case in other parts of Africa) includes the practice of getting injections from non-Western-medicine practitioners.
*Also have to look at any custom that calls for cutting the skin--such as circumcision or scarification to create artful patterns.
The reason I harp so much on injections is that often in Africa, even still in the AIDS era, in the poorer parts, you cannot be sure that injections are given with sterile needles. They often don't have the money to use throwaway needles.
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| -Marburg Toll In Angola Explodes to 200 |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-07-05 03:51 PM |
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I have heard that children are making up a large % ... |
etherealtruth |
Apr-07-05 03:57 PM |
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This one is particularly bad because the Angolese government |
Warpy |
Apr-07-05 04:05 PM |
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We're all only one (relatively) short plane ride away from any disease |
etherealtruth |
Apr-07-05 04:07 PM |
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Marburg Has Spread to Zaire |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-08-05 02:58 AM |
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Just so we are clear here |
sharonking21 |
Apr-09-05 02:25 PM |
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It could just as easily be the country of Zaire. |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Apr-09-05 08:22 PM |
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Marburg in Zaire |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-10-05 02:36 AM |
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Marburg Death Toll Tops Ebola |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-10-05 09:53 PM |
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Marburg Transmitting in Luanda (have plane, will travel) |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-09-05 12:55 AM |
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Airborne Transmission of Marburg |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-10-05 02:38 AM |
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Airborne Transmission |
sharonking21 |
Apr-10-05 11:25 AM |
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Here is a link to the infection control |
sharonking21 |
Apr-10-05 02:43 PM |
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Reuters Headlining WHO Operations Halt = Luanda Panic |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-09-05 10:55 AM |
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Now Its Adults in Luanda Slums (has airport) |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-07-05 04:16 PM |
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Aside from my compassion for the people there... |
etherealtruth |
Apr-07-05 04:26 PM |
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this is a really nasty thing to catch |
hadrons |
Apr-07-05 04:06 PM |
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Marburg Transmitting in South Africa? |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-07-05 05:34 PM |
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With life expectancies going up, |
dxdem |
Apr-07-05 04:09 PM |
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If there is any "good news" ... |
etherealtruth |
Apr-07-05 04:29 PM |
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Coughing - 12 Health Care Workers Dead |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-07-05 05:18 PM |
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Really? I'm relying on "old" knowledge... |
etherealtruth |
Apr-07-05 07:13 PM |
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Sanitation Doesn't Travel |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-08-05 01:15 AM |
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Oh God, Thanks for keeping me updated ... |
etherealtruth |
Apr-08-05 06:40 AM |
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No Marburg Testing South Africa |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-08-05 10:56 AM |
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Nature always tries to find a balance. |
Dave Reynolds |
Apr-07-05 04:39 PM |
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Hopefully they will be able to identify the reservoir... |
Sufi Marmot |
Apr-07-05 04:46 PM |
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My recollection is that they been searching for the |
megatherium |
Apr-07-05 04:56 PM |
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This is my understanding also... |
Sufi Marmot |
Apr-07-05 05:12 PM |
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Identifying the reservoir isn't enough. |
frustrated_lefty |
Apr-07-05 08:01 PM |
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My best friend's lab partner in college died from Hanta virus |
Squeegee |
Apr-07-05 08:51 PM |
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I realize that... |
Sufi Marmot |
Apr-08-05 01:36 AM |
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There is an account of a Hanta outbreak in Argentina I think it was |
Jose Diablo |
Apr-08-05 12:45 PM |
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Just a note: |
frustrated_lefty |
Apr-09-05 07:30 AM |
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Hanta broke in 1993, I think |
hatrack |
Apr-09-05 08:33 PM |
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Your understanding is on the money. |
frustrated_lefty |
Apr-09-05 07:28 AM |
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Finding the reservoir is necessary |
sharonking21 |
Apr-09-05 08:30 PM |
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Anyone read The Hot Zone, |
megatherium |
Apr-07-05 04:53 PM |
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It was a good read n/t |
etherealtruth |
Apr-07-05 05:12 PM |
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There was another similar book out at around that same time. |
davsand |
Apr-07-05 08:39 PM |
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Wish you could remember that title. |
megatherium |
Apr-07-05 10:10 PM |
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try "The coming plague" |
Cronquist |
Apr-08-05 01:38 AM |
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Thanx -- I remember seeing that book. nt |
megatherium |
Apr-08-05 11:20 AM |
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Sorry to break it to you, |
frustrated_lefty |
Apr-09-05 07:37 AM |
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The 100% fatality rate of THIS Marburg virus is bothering me a LOT.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Apr-10-05 10:55 AM |
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Reposting from addition to earlier thread |
sharonking21 |
Apr-08-05 05:20 AM |
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Is it known whether there are multiple independent initial infections? |
Sufi Marmot |
Apr-08-05 12:34 PM |
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That Congo gold mine had been taken by rebels |
MetaTrope |
Apr-08-05 12:37 PM |
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using simple math |
truthisfreedom |
Apr-08-05 05:44 AM |
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Im a layman here, so help me out. |
frictionlessO |
Apr-08-05 12:05 PM |
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Marburg is real nasty, but |
Jose Diablo |
Apr-08-05 01:01 PM |
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Ahh some good info thank you! But which one at this point is more of |
frictionlessO |
Apr-08-05 01:27 PM |
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A person could go nuts just trying to think about all the "What Ifs". |
Jose Diablo |
Apr-08-05 01:40 PM |
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captain tripps was the flu, ya'll |
amazona |
Apr-10-05 12:08 PM |
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As for who is more scary, the antichrist of tripps? |
Jose Diablo |
Apr-08-05 02:13 PM |
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I do believe youre pretty much right. |
frictionlessO |
Apr-08-05 02:41 PM |
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As for Trashcan, I think he is the most interesting character in the |
Jose Diablo |
Apr-08-05 05:26 PM |
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No way Jose! (sorry had to) |
frictionlessO |
Apr-08-05 08:10 PM |
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"Chain letter of death" |
dansolo |
Apr-10-05 12:55 PM |
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For whatever reason, this version of Marburg appears to have.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Apr-09-05 01:20 AM |
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news but here's what CDC has to |
Matriot |
Apr-09-05 11:42 AM |
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There is a difference between |
sharonking21 |
Apr-09-05 03:53 PM |
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I think Steven King called it Dr. Tripps |
obxhead |
Apr-10-05 01:32 PM |
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Here are some links to an earlier thread |
sharonking21 |
Apr-08-05 04:47 PM |
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Thank you very much Sharon! |
frictionlessO |
Apr-08-05 08:03 PM |
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Ages, other factors |
sharonking21 |
Apr-08-05 08:53 PM |
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I stand corrected about it being a truly airborne virus and |
Matriot |
Apr-09-05 07:50 PM |
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Link to map of Angola |
sharonking21 |
Apr-08-05 12:27 PM |
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Maps |
sharonking21 |
Apr-08-05 04:28 PM |
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This bit from the WHO website is troubling... |
Sufi Marmot |
Apr-08-05 02:25 PM |
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Yes, it is |
sharonking21 |
Apr-08-05 04:55 PM |
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Uige Residents Killing Health Care Workers |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-08-05 06:17 PM |
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Hoo boy! (N/T) |
sharonking21 |
Apr-08-05 08:28 PM |
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Is that good or bad or both??? |
frictionlessO |
Apr-08-05 09:49 PM |
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Bad |
sharonking21 |
Apr-09-05 07:27 AM |
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Has this ever been confirmed? |
sharonking21 |
Apr-10-05 11:50 AM |
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It's a fairly deadly disease... |
robcon |
Apr-08-05 08:25 PM |
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Case Fatality Rate is Near 100% |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-09-05 12:34 AM |
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I don't accept the alarmist site you linked to. |
robcon |
Apr-09-05 06:57 AM |
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WHO Figures |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-09-05 07:32 AM |
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WHO Site on Marburg - Case Fatality Rate Higher than Previous 80% |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-10-05 09:16 AM |
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Any word on the 9 quarantined in Italy? |
there-s a |
Apr-10-05 09:56 AM |
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The articles about the isolation |
sharonking21 |
Apr-10-05 02:49 PM |
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Isolation,you're right,my mistake,not a quarantine. |
there-s a |
Apr-11-05 08:20 AM |
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That rate of 23-25% is not even remotely close to what's happening.... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Apr-09-05 01:26 AM |
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I accept the cdc before the recombinomics site. |
robcon |
Apr-09-05 06:59 AM |
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Please see this earlier explanation about case fatality rates |
sharonking21 |
Apr-09-05 07:25 AM |
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Math Made Easy |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-09-05 07:26 AM |
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That's untrue, pandemic_1918 |
robcon |
Apr-09-05 07:31 AM |
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The Congo outbreak CFR is more like it, but |
sharonking21 |
Apr-09-05 07:57 AM |
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No Survivors = 100% Case Fatality Rate |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-09-05 08:28 AM |
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99.4% is More Than 80% |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-09-05 08:20 AM |
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CDC should update their site |
sharonking21 |
Apr-09-05 08:21 AM |
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Red Cross Data on Monthly Fatalities - 100% CFR |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-09-05 09:32 AM |
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The other 20% just haven't died yet. |
Silverhair |
Apr-09-05 08:38 PM |
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Globe & Mail Says 98% Case Fatality Rate in Uige |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-10-05 03:08 AM |
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231 cases = 210 dead + 21 ill (what's missing)? |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-13-05 07:34 PM |
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Actually it applies to Western Europe |
sharonking21 |
Apr-09-05 07:35 AM |
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Nosocomial infections.... |
frustrated_lefty |
Apr-09-05 07:42 AM |
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Yup |
sharonking21 |
Apr-09-05 08:09 AM |
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Marburg in Eastern Africa is Not Marburg in Angola |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-09-05 08:23 AM |
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Yes there have been small outbreaks in Eastern Africa |
sharonking21 |
Apr-09-05 09:01 AM |
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Benefit of the Doubt Creates Confusion |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-09-05 09:26 AM |
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CFRs |
sharonking21 |
Apr-09-05 12:47 PM |
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Show us a link that discusses any survivor of this Marburg strain... |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Apr-09-05 08:36 PM |
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Believe what you want to believe...we'll go on with this thread anyway. |
Media_Lies_Daily |
Apr-09-05 08:28 PM |
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This is interesting |
sharonking21 |
Apr-09-05 08:49 AM |
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Dirty Needles - Childhood Vaccinations |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-09-05 09:29 AM |
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question |
justsomegirl |
Apr-10-05 02:40 PM |
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Lots of Virus |
pandemic_1918 |
Apr-10-05 09:51 PM |
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Age of initial cases |
sharonking21 |
Apr-09-05 12:37 PM |
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Lack of Marburg Virus Survivors Creates Civil Unrest in Angola |
norml |
Apr-10-05 02:50 AM |
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Updates, WHO resumes operations in Uige |
sharonking21 |
Apr-10-05 02:30 PM |
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NYTs: Training Is First Task in Deadly Outbreak |
sharonking21 |
Apr-10-05 10:02 PM |
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