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57. Fine, But I Then Would Like My 2 Public School Children
Edited on Mon Apr-04-05 08:36 AM by maxrandb
To crash the "home-schoolers" party as well. My daughter is not doing so well in AP Biology right now, so I want to send her to a home-schoolers house to take a Biology Quiz.

How about my kids come over for lunch period as well? Can my kids participate in "home school" recess? How about an art class that has recently been cut at my childs middle school? I'm sure some home-schooler won't mind if my kids show up at their house and borrow their crayons. Will they?

I mean it's only "fair and ballanced"
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  -Home-schooled students want part in public school activities Crisco  Apr-04-05 06:45 AM   #0 
  - I could be wrong but I do not  wakeme2008   Apr-04-05 06:50 AM   #1 
  - I think the "family" PAYS the same tax $ ...  etherealtruth   Apr-04-05 07:00 AM   #8 
  - Childless people also pay the same taxes ...  TahitiNut   Apr-04-05 07:07 AM   #9 
  - I agree, Tahititnut  LostinVA   Apr-04-05 07:15 AM   #13 
  - Ah, but as a member of the community ...  etherealtruth   Apr-04-05 07:17 AM   #15 
  - They are allowed to participate ...  TahitiNut   Apr-04-05 07:25 AM   #20 
  - Just got my kids safely off to school ... (public)  etherealtruth   Apr-04-05 08:07 AM   #38 
  - I do not believe individuals/families have a right or entitlement ...  TahitiNut   Apr-04-05 08:28 AM   #51 
  - Public services are constantly being redefined ...  etherealtruth   Apr-04-05 08:55 AM   #70 
     - Here's my take...  JusticeForAll   Apr-04-05 09:30 AM   #86 
     - Your argument is very clear ...  etherealtruth   Apr-04-05 12:49 PM   #144 
     - This is really discriminatory of you  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-04-05 07:19 PM   #185 
     - You're damn right it's discriminatory  JusticeForAll   Apr-04-05 10:59 PM   #212 
        - I have a clue, do you?  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-05-05 10:29 AM   #221 
     - what planet are you on?  dsc   Apr-04-05 10:14 PM   #208 
     - This is no longer true at many schools  LostinVA   Apr-05-05 06:58 AM   #217 
     - not only that but they are being home schooled for a reason  jdj   Apr-04-05 10:21 PM   #210 
     - "Special needs" do not equal "special wants."  TahitiNut   Apr-04-05 09:39 AM   #88 
        - Ah, but must my kids accept every service offered by their school?  etherealtruth   Apr-04-05 01:33 PM   #150 
  - Please don't generalize re "their" motivation  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-04-05 07:14 PM   #184 
     - I realize I was generalizing ...  etherealtruth   Apr-04-05 09:30 PM   #200 
        - I thought the way you do  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-04-05 10:10 PM   #207 
  - That just sealed it for me - Academic requirements  Ravenseye   Apr-04-05 08:27 AM   #50 
  - People homeschool for different reasons  October   Apr-04-05 08:46 AM   #64 
     - They don't have them imposed on them from a central authority  Ravenseye   Apr-04-05 08:51 AM   #67 
     - Oh, I'm truly not feeling defensive  October   Apr-04-05 11:07 AM   #113 
     - Your point is well taken  starwolf   Apr-04-05 11:05 AM   #111 
     - Yes, and there's a new movement  October   Apr-04-05 11:15 AM   #122 
        - In theory, I like "unschooling"..  girl gone mad   Apr-04-05 06:08 PM   #176 
           - Thank you so much  October   Apr-04-05 08:10 PM   #194 
     - Congrats!  fishwax   Apr-04-05 03:59 PM   #163 
     - Thank you  October   Apr-04-05 08:13 PM   #195 
     - Interesting  Catt03   Apr-04-05 05:58 PM   #174 
        - I know what you're saying  October   Apr-04-05 08:19 PM   #196 
  - School isn't for everyone  gorbal   Apr-04-05 01:51 PM   #153 
     - I homeschool...  GoddessOfGuinness   Apr-05-05 12:49 AM   #216 
  - I agree. However  LostinVA   Apr-04-05 07:28 AM   #22 
  - Oh I agree completely----No PUBLIC $$ for private schools! n/t  etherealtruth   Apr-04-05 07:57 AM   #34 
     - Most agree--No $ for private schools  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-04-05 07:30 PM   #188 
  - I'm not so sure they'll be socialized well...  renaissanceguy   Apr-04-05 08:20 AM   #45 
  - You make good points ....  etherealtruth   Apr-04-05 08:25 AM   # 
  - I've seen it go both ways. I know several homeschooled children  Ms_Mary   Apr-04-05 11:21 AM   #126 
  - There is the rub re: "Member of the community"  Rockholm   Apr-04-05 08:44 AM   #63 
     - I abhor home schooling in MOST situations ...  etherealtruth   Apr-04-05 09:01 AM   #75 
  - Catholic (and other religions) pay property taxes and other taxes-and  rodeodance   Apr-04-05 07:23 AM   #19 
  - If homeschooled students can drop in for the fun stuff  KurtNYC   Apr-04-05 08:06 AM   #36 
  - Private school students can "drop in" to my public school algebra class.  alcuno   Apr-04-05 08:28 AM   #53 
  - Excellent question!  elehhhhna   Apr-04-05 08:29 AM   #55 
  - That is their choice  MollyStark   Apr-04-05 08:25 AM   #47 
  - However, in our state, if you go to private school, or open enroll in  mtnester   Apr-04-05 05:11 PM   #169 
  - I believe athletic programs and extra curricular to be a significant part  ProgressiveConn   Apr-04-05 07:35 AM   #28 
  - It's NOT my argument that school taxes create a taxpayer entitlement.  TahitiNut   Apr-04-05 07:49 AM   #32 
  - A lot of people are honest brokers with their homeschooling  ProfessorPlum   Apr-04-05 11:08 AM   #115 
     - I'm not about to rehash all the arguments regarding home-schooling.  TahitiNut   Apr-04-05 11:43 AM   #135 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-04-05 11:54 AM   #140 
  - It Takes A Village?  oneighty   Apr-04-05 08:26 AM   #48 
  - I think that taxes are a non issue  Ravenseye   Apr-04-05 08:56 AM   #71 
  - I have no children...  jwcomer   Apr-04-05 08:49 AM   #65 
  - Isn't this the truth?  JulieRB   Apr-04-05 11:18 AM   #124 
  - good point (n/t)  fishwax   Apr-04-05 03:47 PM   #159 
  - They keep money from public schools by homeschooling  MollyStark   Apr-04-05 08:22 AM   #46 
  - Nobody keeps money from public schools by homeschooling  ProfessorPlum   Apr-04-05 11:12 AM   #116 
  - I homeschool because  thinkingwoman   Apr-04-05 08:58 AM   #72 
  - I think "I" pay the same taxes and don't have any kids so BFD.  Thor_MN   Apr-04-05 08:03 PM   #193 
     - Absolutely, Thor  LostinVA   Apr-05-05 07:06 AM   #218 
  - You are right, in my state it's called ADA  dadsblacksheep   Apr-04-05 08:19 AM   #44 
  - home schooled  wildmanj   Apr-04-05 06:50 AM   #2 
  - I don't think this is a bad thing at all.  ProgressiveConn   Apr-04-05 06:52 AM   #3 
  - See #9.  TahitiNut   Apr-04-05 07:09 AM   #11 
  - This looks like "Law Suits Waiting To Happen" to me.  displacedtexan   Apr-04-05 06:54 AM   #4 
  - Fine, then let's all be capitalists  keopeli   Apr-04-05 06:54 AM   #5 
  - exactly what I was going to suggest  TheFarseer   Apr-04-05 09:07 AM   #78 
  - Hey, I pay school taxes and I don't have any kids. Shouldn't I get some  DemItAllAnyway   Apr-04-05 06:58 AM   #6 
  - hmmmm... that doesn't sit right...  ixion   Apr-04-05 06:59 AM   #7 
  - I was just gonna write that  LostinVA   Apr-04-05 07:16 AM   #14 
  - That's MY Assessment As Well. Start Programs W/ Other Homeschoolers  cryingshame   Apr-04-05 09:18 AM   #82 
  - What if you want your kids to have a broader perspective?  republicansareevil   Apr-04-05 11:13 AM   #117 
  - Why should home schoolers only be socializing with other  eowyn_of_rohan   Apr-04-05 07:39 PM   #189 
  - Schools get funds for their total enrollment.  Bridget Burke   Apr-04-05 07:08 AM   #10 
  - Home Schoolers  vonSchloegel   Apr-04-05 07:14 AM   #12 
  - Actually, extracurricular activities are often a reward....  Bridget Burke   Apr-04-05 07:21 AM   #18 
  - My niece just became a cheerleader  LostinVA   Apr-04-05 07:31 AM   #23 
  - Not all people homeschool because they are religous whackjobs  ProfessorPlum   Apr-04-05 11:15 AM   #123 
  - Republicans play "Twister" with loopholes..  SoCalDem   Apr-04-05 07:21 AM   #16 
  - I can pick and choose what school classes and programs my child  fasttense   Apr-04-05 07:42 AM   #31 
     - That's the 'recipe" for 'privatization" of public schools  SoCalDem   Apr-04-05 09:49 AM   #93 
  - Another thing to consider is how this appears to someone like me  SimpleTrend   Apr-04-05 07:21 AM   #17 
  - I'm childless but don't mind funding public schools.  Bridget Burke   Apr-04-05 07:26 AM   #21 
     - Same Here  Crisco   Apr-04-05 07:35 AM   #29 
     - Here's the logic  SimpleTrend   Apr-04-05 07:41 AM   #30 
     - How do homeschoolers deny schools funding?  ProfessorPlum   Apr-04-05 11:19 AM   #125 
        - Much of the funding for public schools comes from the state and fed ..  tyedyeto   Apr-04-05 11:42 AM   #134 
        - but they have less service to provide  ProfessorPlum   Apr-04-05 11:47 AM   #138 
        - School funding is on a per-student basis  jmowreader   Apr-04-05 04:24 PM   #166 
           - Yes, but . . .  ProfessorPlum   Apr-05-05 01:28 PM   #225 
              - It makes perfect sense to multiply enrollees by a fixed amount  jmowreader   Apr-05-05 09:12 PM   #226 
                 - Yes, but there are also fixed costs that accrue on a per-school basis  ProfessorPlum   Apr-06-05 10:24 AM   #227 
  - Education is not a menu. Arts and Music are courses that students receive  MichiganVote   Apr-04-05 07:32 AM   #24 
  - And in MY school we raise funds to have an arts program.  mondo joe   Apr-04-05 09:44 AM   #90 
     - That's actually a good point I didn't think of  LostinVA   Apr-04-05 09:56 AM   #98 
  - my observation  jukes   Apr-04-05 07:32 AM   #25 
  - hmmm  Tesibria   Apr-04-05 09:40 PM   #201 
  - What happens....  ClintonTyree   Apr-04-05 07:34 AM   #26 
  - Not all homeschoolers "love their prayers" - we're atheists and homeschool  kath   Apr-04-05 03:55 PM   #162 
     - bravo  Tesibria   Apr-04-05 09:42 PM   #202 
  - They made their choice when they decided to home school.  tanyev   Apr-04-05 07:34 AM   #27 
  - Yes. This is desperately needed.  loro mi dicevano   Apr-04-05 07:51 AM   #33 
  - You shouldn't have to lower yourself.  Bridget Burke   Apr-04-05 08:09 AM   #40 
  - Amen.  Chovexani   Apr-04-05 11:13 AM   #119 
  - Perhaps you made the wrong choice  cmd   Apr-04-05 08:12 AM   #41 
  - Maybe she doesn't want to sit in a dull classroom for six hours...  republicansareevil   Apr-04-05 08:55 AM   #69 
     - You know something?  Chovexani   Apr-04-05 11:28 AM   #129 
     - You really have a chip on your shoulder, don't you?  republicansareevil   Apr-04-05 11:39 AM   #133 
     - I really have a hard time understanding why all these gifted  phylny   Apr-04-05 07:02 PM   #183 
  - You couldn't learn ahead of your class in public school?  MollyStark   Apr-04-05 08:35 AM   #58 
  - Same here, Molly,  Tansy_Gold   Apr-04-05 10:50 AM   #106 
  - Go to your local Girl Scouts if babysitting is that important............  tyedyeto   Apr-04-05 08:49 AM   #66 
  - You want it both ways.  DemItAllAnyway   Apr-04-05 08:53 AM   #68 
  - Sorry but you made your choice. Now you make it work.  mondo joe   Apr-04-05 09:31 AM   # 
  - Socializing  thinkingwoman   Apr-04-05 09:48 AM   #91 
  - They refer to the same concept of enculturation. I'd say that's the same.  loro mi dicevano   Apr-04-05 10:02 AM   #100 
     - if you feel  thinkingwoman   Apr-04-05 02:25 PM   #155 
        - If I remember correctly, there have been DU threads addressing  Tansy_Gold   Apr-04-05 05:17 PM   #170 
           - they are  thinkingwoman   Apr-04-05 07:21 PM   #186 
  - If i could have been home schooled, I would have wanted to  Magic Rat   Apr-04-05 09:48 AM   #92 
  - The home schooling of children originated in the mind of  Malva Zebrina   Apr-04-05 08:05 AM   #35 
  - Homeschooling Started Long Ago Way Before The Fundies Started  cryingshame   Apr-04-05 09:25 AM   #84 
  - and 200 years before that  thinkingwoman   Apr-04-05 09:50 AM   #96 
  - If we really want to nitpick we can say homeschooling was started by the  Malva Zebrina   Apr-04-05 10:32 AM   #104 
     - John Holt was advocating it before then  LeftyMom   Apr-04-05 03:51 PM   #161 
        - have it your way--Seelhof is a cult as far as I am concerned  Malva Zebrina   Apr-04-05 05:23 PM   #171 
           - Who the fuck is Seelhof and wht's it gotta do with what I said?  LeftyMom   Apr-04-05 08:32 PM   #198 
  - What you should be talking about is the history...  qanda   Apr-04-05 12:15 PM   #141 
  - If homeschoolers want more social interaction,  tyedyeto   Apr-04-05 08:06 AM   #37 
  - Not all home schoolers  SheilaT   Apr-04-05 08:08 AM   #39 
  - This will go over big in the south  LizW   Apr-04-05 08:14 AM   #42 
  - Riiiiiiiight  Tansy_Gold   Apr-04-05 10:59 AM   #109 
  - I don't think homeschooling is such a great idea, specifically because  Redstone   Apr-04-05 08:15 AM   #43 
  - Good homeschoolers provide for social interaction.  Bridget Burke   Apr-04-05 08:29 AM   #54 
  - What are you talking about?  ProfessorPlum   Apr-04-05 11:27 AM   #128 
     - Does your school district receive state funding based on enrollment?  MissMarple   Apr-04-05 12:54 PM   #147 
        - Yes, but unless the state funding is their only source of income  ProfessorPlum   Apr-04-05 01:06 PM   #148 
           - It depends on your state funding structure.  MissMarple   Apr-04-05 01:48 PM   #152 
  - Thank Goddess they don't  thinkingwoman   Apr-04-05 09:07 AM   #80 
  - Can someone help clarify the funding issue?  republicansareevil   Apr-04-05 08:27 AM   #49 
  - I'm sure it varies by state.  tanyev   Apr-04-05 08:41 AM   #61 
     - You are correct  Horse with no Name   Apr-04-05 08:59 AM   #73 
     - Those against "Robin Hood" weren't the poor school districts.  Bridget Burke   Apr-04-05 08:59 AM   #74 
     - We don't have "Robin Hood" taxes in Arizona  Tansy_Gold   Apr-04-05 11:08 AM   #114 
     - Does anyone know the situation in TN?  republicansareevil   Apr-04-05 09:05 AM   #77 
  - This is ripe for abuse...  Jeff in Cincinnati   Apr-04-05 08:28 AM   #52 
  - Municipal leagues -- Exactly!  LostinVA   Apr-04-05 08:32 AM   #56 
  - Fine, But I Then Would Like My 2 Public School Children  maxrandb   Apr-04-05 08:35 AM   #57 
  - Excellent idea.  tanyev   Apr-04-05 08:44 AM   #62 
  - Oh, did I miss my share  thinkingwoman   Apr-04-05 09:09 AM   #81 
  - Tax Money is Such a Straw-man Argument  maxrandb   Apr-04-05 10:12 AM   #101 
     - Actually, it's not  thinkingwoman   Apr-04-05 12:53 PM   #145 
        - Wrong  maxrandb   Apr-04-05 01:42 PM   #151 
           - Reading comprehension  thinkingwoman   Apr-04-05 02:19 PM   #154 
              - So, You Are Against Home Schooled Children  maxrandb   Apr-04-05 03:11 PM   #156 
                 - What's been clear all along  thinkingwoman   Apr-04-05 03:50 PM   #160 
                    - this subject sure brings out the knee jerk crazies  mopinko   Apr-05-05 10:52 AM   #222 
                       - you said it  thinkingwoman   Apr-05-05 11:05 AM   #224 
  - Home schooling means...  denese   Apr-04-05 11:50 AM   #139 
  - my kids are citizens  mopinko   Apr-05-05 10:54 AM   #223 
  - One of our local schools hired a homeschool mom as a tutor  Ms_Mary   Apr-04-05 12:15 PM   #142 
  - Tough shit, bucko  DS1   Apr-04-05 08:38 AM   #59 
  - Re-Segregate the public schools based on skin color  oneighty   Apr-04-05 08:40 AM   #60 
  - What is all about race?  igil   Apr-04-05 09:49 AM   #95 
     - I speak of South Carolina  oneighty   Apr-04-05 10:13 AM   #102 
  - In my town, homeschoolers always participated in sports, etc  wicket   Apr-04-05 09:01 AM   #76 
  - This is not the solution  Horse with no Name   Apr-04-05 09:07 AM   #79 
  - If the parents pay into the tax system, then their kids get to participate  bleedingheart   Apr-04-05 09:23 AM   #83 
  - If your kids are too good for our schools.....  lcbart   Apr-04-05 09:28 AM   #85 
  - IMO, IF This Is Allowed, Homeschoolers Must Pass All Academic Subjects  cryingshame   Apr-04-05 09:31 AM   #87 
  - What a lovely idea!  OilemFirchen   Apr-04-05 09:44 AM   #89 
  - some du'ers show there true colors on this issue  mopinko   Apr-04-05 09:49 AM   #94 
  - I agree  starwolf   Apr-04-05 11:06 AM   #112 
  - Some Duers - color on this issue.  Flavin   Apr-04-05 11:24 AM   #127 
  - One "homeschooling" situation was bad  LeftyMom   Apr-04-05 05:41 PM   #173 
  - thanks for saying that  denese   Apr-04-05 11:44 AM   #137 
  - Thank you  FearofFutility   Apr-04-05 12:23 PM   #143 
  - I'm kind of apalled by the closed-mindedness.  Ms_Mary   Apr-04-05 12:53 PM   #146 
  - Thank you!  LeftyMom   Apr-04-05 05:35 PM   #172 
  - AMEN .......... !!!! nt  Tesibria   Apr-04-05 09:53 PM   #204 
  - In Michigan, we can homeschool and the kids can participate  Mari333   Apr-04-05 09:52 AM   #97 
  - I think school systems overall benefit from having the kids out of  igil   Apr-04-05 10:01 AM   #99 
  - The most equitable solution  OilemFirchen   Apr-04-05 10:29 AM   #103 
  - Great--only the rich kids could afford art, music or sports.  Bridget Burke   Apr-04-05 10:33 AM   #105 
  - Absolutley not  OilemFirchen   Apr-04-05 10:58 AM   #108 
     - So--the needy students must be judged worthy.  Bridget Burke   Apr-04-05 11:03 AM   #110 
        - Eh?  OilemFirchen   Apr-04-05 11:15 AM   #121 
  - Your last paragraph is TOTAL BS. There are pleny of liberal homeschoolers  kath   Apr-04-05 04:11 PM   #165 
  - Sorry, too bad!  Zerex71   Apr-04-05 10:54 AM   #107 
  - why not? (nt)  republicansareevil   Apr-04-05 11:14 AM   #120 
  - Aren't these the same people demanding ID not evolution be taught?  reprobate   Apr-04-05 11:13 AM   #118 
  - No. They're not.  republicansareevil   Apr-04-05 11:31 AM   #130 
  - The organization sponsoring this legislation is a bit conservative.....  Bridget Burke   Apr-04-05 01:19 PM   #149 
  - THE PROBLEM IS ABOUT MONEY $$$ -  lynne   Apr-04-05 11:37 AM   #131 
  - I do not understand the opposition to this.  Festivito   Apr-04-05 11:38 AM   #132 
  - Any second generation home schooled?  RickWn   Apr-04-05 11:43 AM   #136 
  - Sports  HockeyMom   Apr-04-05 03:22 PM   #157 
  - And no need to keep their grades up!  Bridget Burke   Apr-04-05 03:23 PM   #158 
     - Oh, you are correct  HockeyMom   Apr-04-05 06:08 PM   #175 
  - I support homeschooling, but not this  nonconformist   Apr-04-05 04:04 PM   #164 
  - Using the arguement that the homeschoolers are taxpayers  Jimbo S   Apr-04-05 04:55 PM   #167 
  - perhaps it would be a good thing,  pacifictiger   Apr-04-05 05:00 PM   #168 
  - So what was the fuss about Santorum  Catt03   Apr-04-05 06:08 PM   #177 
  - The Santorum kids were in a home-based charter  LeftyMom   Apr-04-05 06:55 PM   #182 
  - I say fuck 'em  Maine-ah   Apr-04-05 06:10 PM   #178 
  - because you're not a minor  NorthernSpy   Apr-04-05 06:23 PM   #179 
     - then it should be a "pay to play"  Maine-ah   Apr-04-05 06:44 PM   #181 
  - looks like some people believe in school...  NorthernSpy   Apr-04-05 06:41 PM   #180 
  - On Public Education  Crisco   Apr-04-05 07:28 PM   #187 
  - Enrollment = resources to fund the school  mondo joe   Apr-04-05 08:02 PM   #192 
  - This is a case of wanting their "cake and eat it too."  hyphenate   Apr-04-05 07:54 PM   #190 
  - Let's just detach sports from the school system  LeftyMom   Apr-04-05 07:58 PM   #191 
  - YES, this is absolutely the best idea yet - public schools (as well as  kath   Apr-04-05 08:33 PM   #199 
  - Sports are an extension of the classroom  Jimbo S   Apr-05-05 08:32 AM   #219 
  - christian terrorists strike again: home schools do NOT HAVE TO  msongs   Apr-04-05 08:20 PM   #197 
  - Again -- NOT true in many states.  Tesibria   Apr-04-05 10:01 PM   #206 
  - They are not subject to the academic requirements of the school  beyurslf   Apr-04-05 09:43 PM   #203 
  - NOT true in MANY states. nt  Tesibria   Apr-04-05 09:56 PM   #205 
  - No fucking way should this be allowed.  Oregonian   Apr-04-05 10:18 PM   #209 
  - several concerns about this idea  hullbert   Apr-04-05 11:38 PM   #213 
  - Done correctly  Horse with no Name   Apr-04-05 10:54 PM   #211 
  - I can see it now:  onebox30   Apr-04-05 11:51 PM   #214 
  - You know, I just said that to LeftyKid  LeftyMom   Apr-04-05 11:58 PM   #215 
  - They tried this in my school district and the district turned them down  DebinTx   Apr-05-05 08:47 AM   #220 
 

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